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Frenzy.

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Well I actually detect a pretty widespread application of common sense on the issue where most people aren't really that bothered

In fact I suspect the main issue to come from this is the dubious legal event of the police "warning" someone for visiting and talking to a criminal on the grounds...that they are a criminal

Fafitas " support" for Loveridge is clearly a matter between the two men and would not have been publicaly known if not via the actions of the press leak

I am a little taken aback that some normally reasonable and intelligent posters in this thread have come out so hard on Fifita and I assume it's more to do with fafitas past indiscretions than this event itself that has annoyed them.

Yes

I'm thinking there are a lot of converters going into prison to visit people. This is only news because he plays footy.

Any person here could find themselves with a friend or rely in the clink. They might visit them. aaahhhh no. Consorting!!

There are thousands of visitors coming through jails a week and they don't get warnings at the door on the way out.

This is, more than I ever usually say, completely nothing.
 

Frenzy.

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It is the bikie laws that were brought in after the airport incident that have brought this on. If KL had no ties to bikies then it would be fine but I believe if you visit someone with bikie links you get 3 warnings. It really isn't a big deal.

The KL messages on the wrist though are extremely dumb. I believe "for" over "free" but still really dumb.

Nuh, their wives, GFs and kids visit weekly. Even people who work in prisons can visit crims after certain checks. Relatives, friends etc. Ex crims can even visit other crims.

I'm telling yas, this is nothing. Not worth the speculation it's being given. Not worth the clicks on the inter web links. Worthless piece of junk "news"
 

Frenzy.

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He might of. What it meant doesn't have to be released to the public.

You can bet he told Gorman when he denied the speculation. If I was CEO I'd asking
 

Pig Champion

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I'm at work, MMM on in the background. Is Hooper the one I can hear, "Fifita this, Fifita that"?
He really is a smug, self important bastard.
 

Arnold

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Yep. Calling for leadership by the club. Wouldn't say in what for he wants the leadership to be.
Leadership like parramatta showed James?
 

Pig Champion

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We showed leadership. We released a statement. I'm sure Fifita's been told what's what and now waits to see the NRL. They want a public flogging (suspension). The Newscorp merkins still think they dictate the terms.
 

shadowboxer

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Get Scott Morrison on the phone with Ray Hadley to debate the issue or better still put both of them in a phone booth to box it out. Gotten bloody stupid
 

Feej

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Yep. Calling for leadership by the club. Wouldn't say in what for he wants the leadership to be.
Leadership like parramatta showed James?
This shit is the worst kind of journalism. Making a "call for leadership" really means, "I think he should be sacked and if you don't sack him, it gives me the right to continue shitbagging the club". This is the shit that forced DI to cave in the ASADA era. Self righteous pricks, they all are.
 

Inferno

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Take Fafita out of the equation for a second. Look at where this story started from. That is a real concern. Forget about the fact that Fafita visits an inmate & the law that they are using, is not even applicable in this instance. Very knowledgable person I spoke to last night, said it would not last 2 seconds in a court as it cannot be applied in this situation. The fact it is only a warning, means that it cant be tested.
But think about how this became a story. Again, we have people in the force leaking information to the papers in order to derail the Sharks. Then we have the footage of the letters ready to go to print, & an assumed meaning linking them altogether.
Then we have the hysteria that has followed by enemies outside & within.
its a real worry that we dont circle our wagons as a club & hunt these cretins down & stop it.
Fafita has done nothing wrong.. End of story.

That is incorrect. The legislation is pretty clear:

93X Consorting

(1) A person who:
(a) habitually consorts with convicted offenders, and
(b) consorts with those convicted offenders after having been given an official warning in relation to each of those convicted offenders,
is guilty of an offence.
Maximum penalty: Imprisonment for 3 years, or a fine of 150 penalty units, or both.

(2) A person does not
"habitually consort" with convicted offenders unless:
(a) the person consorts with at least 2 convicted offenders (whether on the same or separate occasions), and
(b) the person consorts with each convicted offender on at least 2 occasions.

(3) An "Official warning" is a warning given by a police officer (orally or in writing) that:
(a) a convicted offender is a convicted offender, and
(b) consorting with a convicted offender is an offence.

The warning given is a pre-requisite before an offence can be committed. While the law was probably not brought in specifically to deal with visiting crims in gaol, I can't see a reason why it can't be used for that purpose.

I'm curious who the other convicted offender is, but given it's probably not someone as high profile as Kieran Loveridge I guess we haven't heard anything about him/her.

It is disappointing these days that supposed public outrage determines the extent of the penalty imposed.

Onus will be on Fifita to bounceback, we need him firing in every game if we're any chance of taking out the big one.
 

Feej

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It is disappointing these days that supposed public outrage determines the extent of the penalty imposed.
This is pretty much how the media and social media work these days. It's either black or white, and if your opinion is somewhere in the middle, you're lumped in with either black or white.
 

drago brelli

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Once Gorman found out what Fifita had written on his writs do you think Cronulla paid some PR spin company to come up with the term 'for'?
 

drago brelli

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I wonder if the time will come when the NRL will ban players writing messages on their writs. A friend told me that soccer players in England aren't allowed to remove their shirts in celebration because in the past some players have had advertising written on their backs.
 

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