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First Grade Knights v Bulldogs

Pumba

First Grade
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1. Wes Naiqama
2. James McManus
3. Keith Lulia
4. Adam MacDougall
5. Cooper Vuna
6. Jarrod Mullen
7. Scott Dureau
8. Danny Wicks
9. Matt Hilder
10. Jesse Royal
11. Chris Houston
12. Cory Paterson
13. Zeb Taia

Interchange:
1. Chris Bailey
2. Daniel Tolar
3. Richard Fa’aoso
4. Cameron Ciraldo

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League_God

Juniors
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how ciraldo is still there leaves me completely confused, not to mention wicks to the run-on.
 

Bicey_18

Bench
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I think we may be in for a loooong night unfortunately..

Ciraldo?
Wicks starting?

Whats doing there??
 

reginald.p

Juniors
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208
If we can't beat the Bulldogs without Buderus Gidley Simpson and Cross then we really did buy a reserve grade team.
 

Jono078

Referee
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21,202
If the team stays like that im a bit dissapointed.

Ciraldo does **** all except give Taia and/or Paterson less game time which isnt a good thing.

I reckon there will be last minute changes though, surely there has to be.
 

Bicey_18

Bench
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3,021
Our opposition

1. Nick Youngquest
2. Hazem El Masri
3. Daryl Millard
4. Tim Winitana
5. Matt Utai
6. Daniel Holdsworth
7. Ben Roberts
8. Charlie Leano
9. Corey Hughes
10. Brad Morrin
11. Nick Kouparitsas
12. Andrew Ryan (c)
13. Reni Maitua

Subs:
14. Frank Winterstein
15. Lee Te Maari
16. Fred Briggs
17. Aaron Groom
 

Frederick

Moderator
Staff member
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27,660
Despite all their injuries it's still a decent side. Jimmy should have fun marking up on Utai, Roberts can do some decent stuff, Corey Hughes has been in ok form from what I've seen. Their backrow is good, and furrycat won't shutup about this Aaron Groom kid, so he's gotta be something special
 

knights_86

Juniors
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266
gosh! cant believe that wicks is starting, ciraldo and lulia need some time in reserves too. f**k.

yeah, even without sbw, patten and a few others, that bulldogs side could still easily carve us up. i ****ing hate origin time! i do love watching origin though. dammit.
 

Yosh

Coach
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12,012
HAHAHAHA our team does look really bare...

Wicks/Ciraldo/Lulia need to be dropped.
 

BG

Juniors
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1,075
I really hope those of you going over the top about this team watch NSW Cup closely, because I really don't understand the issue. Better judges than me who do watch reserves don't think that Aku or Sau or whoever it is you're all screaming about not being selected look terribly more likely than Lulia or Vuna. All these guys are young and promising and some inconsistency shouldn't surprise. Vuna has had some outstanding games and some poor ones, Lulia has been very up and down, but a couple of weeks ago everyone was raving about how he handled Hodges and then Folau. If Aku and Sau still get shown up defensively on occasions in reserves do you really think they're certainies to come in and play like seasoned campaigners in week-to-week NRL? I wouldn't have a clue who are going to be the best of the bunch in the long-run. Maybe it will indeed be Aku and Sau, but I just don't see it as a big selection issue all of a sudden. In fact for the expediency of getting a badly needed win on the board, I think chopping and changing when we're dealing with inexperienced players is the worst possible approach. I'd much prefer to see Aku given his first shot in a more stable week, when the team's hopefully got some confidence back, Gids is at fullback, and our leaders are back in the forwards.

As far as the pack goes, who are the truly incredible options being overlooked? I like the little I saw of Taufua last year and White goes OK. Sarge is leaving anyway. Sure Ciraldo hasn't been a standout, Houston's been inconsistent. Wicks has been disappointing but might yet turn his form around. Basically the team looks weak because the players who would really make a difference: Bedsy, Gids, Cross, Simmo aren't available. Shuffling around the up-and-comers and the space-fillers is hardly a big deal. If anything it could further disrupt an already disrupted side.

Imho the hysteria in this thread is based on frustration over the last two weeks performances, and has little logic behind it. Looked at objectively, the whole team lacked focus in defence against the Tiges. This happens to all teams from time to time in a tough NRL season and it's no surprise it happened to a young team backing up from that intense game against the Storm. As for the Warriors game, one of the main reason we lost is that a couple of our usually reliable and very good young players--Dureau especially and to a lesser degree Patto had off days; and a couple of our inconsistent young guys (Vuna, Lulia) weren't at their best either. To be a truly competitive team this year we need our stars to come through Origin healthy, and the younger guys to gradually improve their consistency. If this happens I've no doubt we'll really kick on in the latter part of the season. And issues like whether Ciraldo or Lulia get picked over another rookie or fringe first-grader this particular week, or whether Wicks starts or comes off the bench, is imho a whole lot of fluster over nothing.
 
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macavity

Referee
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I really hope those of you going over the top about this team watch NSW Cup closely, because I really don't understand the issue. Better judges than me who do watch reserves don't think that Aku or Sau or whoever it is you're all screaming about not being selected look terribly more likely than Lulia or Vuna. All these guys are young and promising and some inconsistency shouldn't surprise. Vuna has had some outstanding games and some poor ones, Lulia has been very up and down, but a couple of weeks ago everyone was raving about how he handled Hodges and then Folau. If Aku and Sau still get shown up defensively on occasions in reserves do you really think they're certainies to come in and play like seasoned campaigners in week-to-week NRL? I wouldn't have a clue who are going to be the best of the bunch in the long-run. Maybe it will indeed be Aku and Sau, but I just don't see it as a big selection issue all of a sudden. In fact for the expediency of getting a badly needed win on the board, I think chopping and changing when we're dealing with inexperienced players is the worst possible approach. I'd much prefer to see Aku given his first shot in a more stable week, when the team's hopefully got some confidence back, Gids is at fullback, and our leaders are back in the forwards.

As far as the pack goes, who are the truly incredible options being overlooked? I like the little I saw of Taufua last year and White goes OK. Sarge is leaving anyway. Sure Ciraldo hasn't been a standout, Houston's been inconsistent. Wicks has been disappointing but might yet turn his form around. Basically the team looks weak because the players who would really make a difference: Bedsy, Gids, Cross, Simmo aren't available. Shuffling around the up-and-comers and the space-fillers is hardly a big deal. If anything it could further disrupt an already disrupted side.

Imho the hysteria in this thread is based on frustration over the last two weeks performances, and has little logic behind it. Looked at objectively, the whole team lacked focus in defence against the Tiges. This happens to all teams from time to time in a tough NRL season and it's no surprise it happened to a young team backing up from that intense game against the Storm. As for the Warriors game, one of the main reason we lost is that a couple of our usually reliable and very good young players--Dureau especially and to a lesser degree Patto had off days; and a couple of our inconsistent young guys (Vuna, Lulia) weren't at their best either. To be a truly competitive team this year we need our stars to come through Origin healthy, and the younger guys to gradually improve their consistency. If this happens I've no doubt we'll really kick on in the latter part of the season. And issues like whether Ciraldo or Lulia get picked over another rookie or fringe first-grader this particular week, or whether Wicks starts or comes off the bench, is imho a whole lot of fluster over nothing.

Stop making sense BG.

I think rather than to reward good form in the reggies, a lot of people (me included) want changes simply to punish those not putting in and send a message that it wont be tolerated.

Wicks has two of the worst games ever by a Knights forward, and gets rewarded with a starting spot? Lulia misses a simple tackle that effectively loses us the game (after Mullo looked to have pulled it from the fire for us), and looks disinterested throughout, and keeps his spot? Vuna refuses to contest bombs and doesnt get a shake up?

I think a lot of people are just angry that we aren't doing the little things right mate. That is attitude. after such a promising start we just look like we don't want to be there. If they don't want to be there, put them in reggies.
 
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