For the credibility of Origin

[the kirwan kid]

I was born in QLD, lived there my whole life, played senior footy as a 16 year old (A grade & Reserve grade), then moved to NSW and played there from 17 -23. After 5 years in NSW I moved back home. I'm a die hard QLDer and couldn't imagine playing for anyone but them if I had been good enough yet NSW could have possibly claimed me. I think when it comes to line ball decisions the players have to be able to go where their heart lies IMO.

 

[GC_Gladiator]

Agree with Dazzat and the like.

I love queensland and would never want to play for anyone else. If i had an opportunity and played my first senior footy in NSW i'd be eligible for them. But its where the heart lies that should be the big decider.

I don't see why this really needs so much attention. In the end it comes down to the players will. If they play for a state for the wrong reason its more a reflection of there integrity than anything else.

 

[mxlegend99]

Maybe a points based system.
ie.
Place Of Birth = 100 Points
Junior Footy Club(s) = 20 points each
Senior (16+) Footy Club = 50 points

Although i still believe the only black and white solution is that you play for the state you were born in, or not at all.

 

[_Johnsy]

Well how is Inglis a QLD'er in any way, shape or from. He played 1 year for Brisbane Norths ???

 

[Knights_for_spoon]

Greg Inglis is a dirty cat, QLD can keep him. If NSW wanted him from the start i have no doubt he'd be going around in a blue jersey instead of a maroon one.

 

[Dazzat]

Yes, this thread was never about 'Origin credibility'. It was all about Greg Inglis. If Jacob Lillyman's eligibility was under dispute - no thread.

Inglis has copped plenty for NSWers for his playing for Queensland, and it hasn't moved him. What does that tell ya? It tells me he's pretty serious about playing for Queensland.

 

[Sood]

He probably supported qld as a kid.

 

[_Johnsy]

I was born in QLD, lived there my whole life, played senior footy as a 16 year old (A grade & Reserve grade), then moved to NSW and played there from 17 -23. After 5 years in NSW I moved back home. I'm a die hard QLDer and couldn't imagine playing for anyone but them if I had been good enough yet NSW could have possibly claimed me. I think when it comes to line ball decisions the players have to be able to go where their heart lies IMO.

Kirwan kid, there is no grey area with you, you would be playing for QLD as your first senior game was in QLD.

 

[_Johnsy]

Yes, this thread was never about 'Origin credibility'. It was all about Greg Inglis. If Jacob Lillyman's eligibility was under dispute - no thread.

Inglis has copped plenty for NSWers for his playing for Queensland, and it hasn't moved him. What does that tell ya? It tells me he's pretty serious about playing for Queensland.

Please re-read the thread, it6 is about ensuring no grey areas whn it comes to origin eligibility. Inglis has been used as an example beacuase that is one where there is grey area, due to an interpretation of the current rules. There are numerous players who some people wpuld make an argument for and against. Just simplify the rule. It's not overley difficult.

 

[_Johnsy]

Maybe a points based system.
ie.
Place Of Birth = 100 Points
Junior Footy Club(s) = 20 points each
Senior (16+) Footy Club = 50 points

Although i still believe the only black and white solution is that you play for the state you were born in, or not at all.

MXLegend

I have stated before, I thionk the best eligibilty criteria is once you turn 16 years of age, the club for who you play your next game is the state you are eligible for. Cut and dry.

I wonder if QLDérs would take issue if SBW was picked for NSW.

 

[Dazzat]

Please re-read the thread, it6 is about ensuring no grey areas whn it comes to origin eligibility. Inglis has been used as an example beacuase that is one where there is grey area, due to an interpretation of the current rules. There are numerous players who some people wpuld make an argument for and against. Just simplify the rule. It's not overley difficult.

I believe the system I have suggested is easily implemented. As I've said before, yes tighten the rules, but build in a secondary descretionary layer which can be enacted if there's a dispute of some kind.

History clearly shows that you'll never tighten rules enough to catch every individual case. That's why there are thousands of lawyers and thousands of courts across the world, making billions of dollars.

 

[_Johnsy]

I believe the system I have suggested is easily implemented. As I've said before, yes tighten the rules, but build in a secondary descretionary layer which can be enacted if there's a dispute of some kind.

History clearly shows that you'll never tighten rules enough to catch every individual case. That's why there are thousands of lawyers and thousands of courts across the world, making billions of dollars.

I fail to see how a dispute could be raised, especially if the rule is as follows.

From the date of your 16th (or any age that is determined) the next club game you play is deemed the sate in which you are eligible to play SOO.

I cannot see how there would be any dispute with a rule such as this. Your example of lawyers and courts is laughable. If you have had any interaction with the court system you would understand that it is more about the interpretation of a law. How exactly can the rule I have proposed above be interpreted any other way ? It seems to work pretty well when determining what age your son or daughter qualifies for when they play sport.

 

[nqboy]

Well how is Inglis a QLD'er in any way, shape or from. He played 1 year for Brisbane Norths ???

It's the maroon blood coursing through his veins, with every beat of his maroon heart that makes him a Queenslander. He was just unlucky enough to be born down there.

 

[Dazzat]

If you have had any interaction with the court system you would understand that it is more about the interpretation of a law.

Let us hear more about your 'interaction with the court system' oh esteemed counsel; the one who seems to believe that more laws are the answer for everything.

Interpretation you say? Mmm ... does that mean laws can be interpreted in different ways? According to you they cannot ... its black or its white; day or night; blue or maroon.

 

[Dazzat]

It's the maroon blood coursing through his veins, with every beat of his maroon heart that makes him a Queenslander. He was just unlucky enough to be born down there.

Yes, the Blues are fearful of putting any descretionary clauses in SOO eligibility for fear of mass exodus to the Sunshine State.

The Queensland Premier this week announced plans for the release of more residential land to cope with the continuing stream of southerners looking for some meaning in life in our great state.

Passion, pride, sunshine ... it's all here in Queensland and stops fairly suddenly around the south end of the Gold Coast.

 

[Loudstrat]

Yes, the Blues are fearful of putting any descretionary clauses in SOO eligibility for fear of mass exodus to the Sunshine State.

The Queensland Premier this week announced plans for the release of more residential land to cope with the continuing stream of southerners looking for some meaning in life in our great state.

Passion, pride, sunshine ... it's all here in Queensland and stops fairly suddenly around the south end of the Gold Coast.

And gets replaced by intelligence, sporting ability, and water.

How is the sewerage that they drink in Queensland?

 

[Mortar]

And gets replaced by intelligence, sporting ability, and water.

How is the sewerage that they drink in Queensland?

More like it gets replaced by drag queens, poor RL crowds and a lack of passion for their sporting teams but not their sisters.

And what is this about water?

NSW Health supports the reuse of treated effluent, which has been appropriately treated as this can reduce the demand for drinking water

http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/public-health/ehb/wastewater/index.html

It will be a never ending cycle of shyte coming out of your mouths only to go right back in.

NSWankers :roll:

 

[Loudstrat]

NSW health may support the concept, but people in Towoomba have been drinking it for years.

When was the last time 67k turned up to a game in Brisbane?

And how many turned up to a game last weekend?

And how many Queenslanders are playing Origin? Should really be NSW v Queensland Invitational.

 

[beave]

How is the sewerage that they drink in Queensland?

Tooheys is sold up here, but we don't drink it.................hehehe.

 

[Dazzat]

Never let the facts get in the way of a NSW wank. Ever heard of something called "Google" - it's new. You should try it before posting dribble. When you type in "NSW" you get something on a crime commission at the top. Seems Google knows a what NSW is all about.

The people of Toowoomba rejected a proposal for recycled sewage in their drinking water in 2006.

http://www.science.org.au/nova/095/095key.htm