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Forget the Wallabies - Lets Hit Union Where It Hurts Most

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<table cellspacing=0 cellpadding=10 width="100%" border=0> <tbody> <tr> <td> I actually wrote thispiece about a month ago on WORL, but like broncos " when we were kids" thread , it flopped in the face of the girdler threads and sexiest player threads. I wanted to bring it back purely to see what you guys think and get your opinions which I respect so highly:

With talk of a war developing between the 2 rugby codes, a suggestion should be made to the League heavyweights to forget trying to secure big name Wallabies for million dollar contracts, and instead, attack them where it will hurt them most: their schoolboy stars.

Sure, a Larkham or a Gregan would be a massive blow to Union and a coup for League, but their signatures would come at a price too great for most NRL clubs.

What NRL clubs should do is exploit Union through their schoolboys. With the private school sytem the way it is today (i.e The GPS competitions in Sydney and Brisbane), Union has a structured talent pool to select from. Most of the Schoolboy representative players come from these two competitions, withthe better playersgoing on to make the Australian Schoolboys side. And as history has shown, a large percentageof Australian Schoolboys Union representatives often progress to the senior ranks through the Reds, Warratahs and Brumbies, and eventually, the Wallabies.

The likes of Ryan Cross and Craig Wing, who both made the Australian Schoolboys Union side in 1997, have proven that schoolboy rugby stars can make an impact in rugby league. They were identified for their talent and have kicked on dramatically in League, with Union now regretting that they were not proactive enough in securing this talent when they had an opportunity.

Union's schoolboys stars are ripe for the picking, because often, having played 5 years of union at high school, they are looking for a change and a fresh opportunity. In my dealings with talented unionkids of Australian Schoolboys representation, many have often commented that they would jump at any offer by an NRL club, simply because they think League would be fun and they would like to try something new.

These Union schoolboys are also easy targets because, until theyleave high school, they are given little attention from their state's governing body. For example, in Qld, there is a programme called the "Reds College", however, this is usually only for players between 18 and 22. This is the only form of recognition these kids receive, and the best thing is, it still does not involve any contractual obligations. So when an NRL club approaches them, many are overwhelmed and are prepared to sign for little money, simply because they are ecstatic that they have been recognised for their talent.

Another reason to attack Union's schoolboys, is the fact that once they leave high school, if they are not under contract to the Reds, Warratahs or Brumbies, they are forced to play in the local club competiton if they wish to continue competitively in the sport. This club competition is basically a joke, with a reasonably poor level of play and no media or sponsorship support. Thus, any offer presented by an NRL club is seen as a golden opportunity to further their footballing talent, and most jump at the chance.

NRL clubs have to start looking to the Union schoolboys for possible recruits. The Brisbane Broncos talent scout, Cyril Connell, rarely misses a GPS game in Brisbane, and is always looking to union to further bolster the Broncos playing stocks. At the Schoolboy level, Union is becoming very, very professional, with training practices now mirroring college football in the USA.

The talent is there. John O'Neill and his ARU cronies know it and take it for granted. League should look to raiding this schoolboy talent, because in the long term, it will strike a much deeper blow and hurt the rah rahs significantly more.
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Hass

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Union shouldn't be able to buy these players back if they get entrenched in League. I'm a follower of both codes, but I'd really like to see League getting off its backside and trying to help itself.

The excuse used for why we can't have 16 teams is because there aren't enough players of first grade standard. If they started recruiting more people from different avenuse it could only increase the talent pool and the standard of fringe players- as well as the whole competition.

But then they'd have one less excuse for holding back the competition.

Cheers.
 
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I think this would be a great idea, get their schoolboys, super. That would really get their playing umbers down, at the momebt, there are 33,500 Rugby Union players who are registered in Oz, compared to a 200,000 Rugby League players, if we can target their schoolboys just imagine how dramatically their playing numbers would go down! In England, Rugby Union have recently lost up to 25,000 players ang League have gainded up to 15,000.
 
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Marcus

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rjrugbyleaguelover, thats nothing new, RL has been doing that for years. (Tuqiri, Wing, Kennedy, Ricketson etc.
 
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Marcus

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Roger Ramjet,

Tuqiri played Union at Nudgee College in Brisbane. He has said that he would like to go back playing Union in the near future.

There is also Polla-Mounta, Rogers (Union next year), and many others.

Everybody has a CHOICE in life, there is no such thing as not having a choice.
 

imported_kier

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Actually Marcus - growing up in the south of England I didn't have a choice. It was only a fluke that I had a chance to play RL when I was 20.

I haven't looked back since though.......
 
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Marcus,

Over the past few days you have embarassed yourself with many of your comments, and again you have done so with your claim that Tuquiri attended Brisbane's Nudgee College.

Considering I spent 6 schooling years at Nudgee College, I can confidently tell you that Lote Tuquiri never atended this school. In fact, Tuquiri attended Sunnybank High School, and did not play any football code until he turned 15, when he took up League with Sunnybank.

As for your comments regarding Tuquiri's apparent desire to play union in the near future, it is clear you made this up. Marcus, give it up buddy. You are just making a fool out of yourself.
 
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Marcus

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Mailman,

Sorry, I have just checked and you are absolutely right. Tuqiri did not play at NC
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. But he did in fact say he would seriously consider going to RU. I heard him say in an interview - regarding Sailor's defection.

BTW, didn't Tuqiri play for Fiji in RLWC? If so why is he in the Kangaroo team?
 

G@v

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Marcus,Lote Tuqiri did play for Fiji in the World Cup, in fact he was their captain! How he qualifies for Australia is beyond me.
 
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CanadianSteve

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Why would the Kangaroos take Tuqiri but won't take Aussies who play in England (as I asked about on another thread)? I guess because he plyas NRL. What are the qualifying rules for international rugby anyway, regarding what country players are eligible to play for?
 

Willow

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Tuqiri has a Fijian background. He was offered a spot in the Fiji World Cup team which he took up without hesitation.
But he was born in Australia.
It was only later that he he offered the opportunity to play for Australia.
I've also had to change my view on this.
For mine, I can't see anything wrong with a young man acknowledging both backgrounds.
Good luck to him.
 

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