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Former Dragons coach Nathan Brown in running to replace Tim Sheens at Wests Tigers

Amozzie

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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/n...-at-wests-tigers/story-e6frfgbo-1226468107891

FORMER Dragons coach Nathan Brown and NSW Blues assistant coach Matt Parish have emerged as dark horses to replace embattled Tim Sheens at the Wests Tigers next year. The Sunday Telegraph can reveal their names were openly discussed among board members last week as doubts remain about Sheens' future.
Brown recently signed a contract with English giants St Helens and Parish, who is Geoff Toovey's assistant at Manly, had been tipped to join Ricky Stuart on Parramatta's coaching staff next year.
All this could change if the Tigers decide to make a move.
There is no way Stuart would hold Parish to his agreement at Parramatta if there was a first-grade job available.
Brown is back in Sydney for a short holiday with his family but could not be contacted yesterday.
He has always wanted to return to the NRL if the right job was available.
Sheens insists he has a rock-solid contract for another two years which has no performance clauses.
Still, it didn't stop him from walking into chief executive Stephen Humphreys' office during the week for some spirited talks.
The Sunday Telegraph understands Sheens even offered to stand down, provided he was paid out. He has made the finals only three times in 15 years, although his side is always competitive.
There is also talk of the New Zealand Warriors being interested in the Test coach.
However, a move to Auckland would almost certainly force him to give up the Kangaroos job.
Interestingly, NRL clubs are now turning towards the untried rookie coaches following the success of Michael Maguire at the Rabbitohs and Geoff Toovey at Manly.
Of the first-year coaches, only Steve Price at the Dragons missed the play-offs.
When was the last time the three most experienced coaches, Wayne Bennett, Brian Smith and Sheens all missed the finals in the same year?
I can't recall it happening.
It's why the Sydney Roosters have taken a punt on Trent Robinson, a virtually unknown assistant coach at Bondi Junction when the club made the grand final in 2010.
Robinson is highly regarded among the players and was named coach of the year in the UK Super League.
Robinson signed a three-year deal, ending speculation Craig Bellamy would join the Roosters.
 
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Not a big Brown fan, but we're desperate for a new direction and I will seriously take anyone for that change to happen - even Brown or Parish.

It really makes me sick thinking about two more years with Sheens.
 

Magpies Forever

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I wonder if Brown / Parish / whoever can shift things around the gym or get those guest speakers to motivate the players like Sheens (one of his strengths according to Humphreys I hear).
 

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It all depends on the Warriors, the Tigers would sign Brown in a flash if they could offload Sheens without parting with mega dollars. I just cant see the Warriors going for Sheens, they need a hard man like Bellyache not a wishy washy old bloke like Sheens.
It is a very depressing thought, another two years of Sheens ,and that will restrict my attendants to the LO games only and no membership.

Anyway their is still hope, the door has not closed yet so lets keep our
fingers crossed
 

Magpies Forever

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I just cant see Bellamy leaving Melbourne at this stage of things. Auckland are playing Sheens / Bellamy against each other and their clubs. Sheens could be a good rebuilder, I think that is one of his acknowledged strengths. It depends on how hot (in terms of performance expectations) WT want to make for Sheens if he stays- that is the question. And from everything Humphreys has said to date- it would only be luke warm to tepid at best on Sheens to perform if he stayed. Maybe WT are pushing the challenge of seomthing new on him to get him to move- who knows.
 
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Why would bellamy want to leave Melb at all , let alone a year early? And why would Melb release him a year early? I cant see the warriors getting him for next year. If he was infact making noises that he wanted out early then I think the roosters would not have signed Robinson yet.
 

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I just cant see Bellamy leaving Melbourne at this stage of things. Auckland are playing Sheens / Bellamy against each other and their clubs. Sheens could be a good rebuilder, I think that is one of his acknowledged strengths. It depends on how hot (in terms of performance expectations) WT want to make for Sheens if he stays- that is the question. And from everything Humphreys has said to date- it would only be luke warm to tepid at best on Sheens to perform if he stayed. Maybe WT are pushing the challenge of seomthing new on him to get him to move- who knows.

Perhaps some may also recognise the strength of our juniors and the very real possibility Sheens may turn things around with the emergence of this talent. This could strengthen his position at the club. Hell, he may need to ask for a pay increase!
 

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I don't get the criticism of Brown. He took a Huddersfield side that had struggled for almost the entirety of the last 50 years and made them comp heavyweights. He'd be good for a 3 year deal.

In saying that, my order of preference would be:

1 Folkes
2 D.Anderson
3 Brown
 

madunit

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Furthermore, I think if Sheens went to Warriors, he'd get them to a grand final. He isn't going to achieve that again at the tigers.
 

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Also Parish has a family coaching history and anything he has picked up from the Hassler/Toovey generation at Manly has to be a plus.
 

super_coach

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Would just love this to be sorted so I could either be depressed or optimistic about 2013 and beyond.I think if we want Farah to resign we need Sheenius gone gone gone
 

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Perhaps some may also recognise the strength of our juniors and the very real possibility Sheens may turn things around with the emergence of this talent. This could strengthen his position at the club. Hell, he may need to ask for a pay increase!
Strength in juniors is all well and good while they are juniors. It doesn't always seem to translate all that well to strength in first graders. Hey, maybe there's a problem with the first grade coach?
 
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Not real sure about Brown either,he didn't do all that well at Saints and is remembered more for bitch slapping Barrett than his coaching!then again that might be what our players need.
 

spearby

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not a brown fan give me parish if they are the only two.what about kimmorley from the dogs he has a footy brain i think he could be a good coach you have to start some where
 

madunit

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Kimmorley? f**k no!

He'd have us all playing flat & before the advantage line. We'd get annihilated every week.
 

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Not real sure about Brown either,he didn't do all that well at Saints and is remembered more for bitch slapping Barrett than his coaching!then again that might be what our players need.


Golden boy Baz was half his problem down there. Nathan was too close to his playing career as well.

Overseas record seems to be ok.

Hell, couldn't do any worse than Super Coach though.


All pipe dreams though unless the Commission announce massively increased club dividends soon.
 

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Why are we all being choosy about who replaces Sheens, FFS a sand bag could get more out of the players, and im sure the next coach wont be around for 10 years if he can not produce the goods. Lets just be grateful the club may finnaly be looking to replace this dickhead.
Lets not put the board in 2 minds as to wether they are doing the right thing... Just get rid of this untouchable clown first while there is a chance!!
 
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