Forum Sevens 2004

[ParraMatt]

Rhinos will be back, We Folded mid way through this seasona s most would know but Next Year we will be stronger then ever.

 

[The Engineers Room]

I have a proposal. If are we limiting the number of teams. Say 5 weeks before the next season we hold a round robin tournament with places in the premiership as stake. The teams that have been defeated (placing outside the top 8) given one or two weeks to either merge with another club in the eight of dissolve and the players find another club.

 

[The Backpacker]

I have a proposal. If are we limiting the number of teams. Say 5 weeks before the next season we hold a round robin tournament with places in the premiership as stake. The teams that have been defeated (placing outside the top 8) given one or two weeks to either merge with another club in the eight of dissolve and the players find another club.

I think until all teams have verbalised their interest and been given an oppertunity to recruit, we should just wait and see and forget about talking exclusion at this point. Many people are away and have other interests in summer and teams may be disadvantaged under your proposal because of this.

 

[The Engineers Room]

I just don't want to see mid-season folding. If we exclude the top 4 and simply make it one or two games in a pool where the bottom team is knocked out. So say we get 11 clubs. We would have two pools where in the four the bottom 2 are out and the other where the bottom team is out. We could even make it 4v4 or 3v3 to give them a chance. But 7v7 is preferrable to show that they have the number to compete.

 

[El Coconuto]

Even 11 clubs is too many. The competition would be so much more fluent and fun if there were only 8 strong clubs.

Obviously, the question of which clubs to axe and who will want to move where will mean that such a move will never take place.

 

[The Engineers Room]

Even 11 clubs is too many. The competition would be so much more fluent and fun if there were only 8 strong clubs.

Obviously, the question of which clubs to axe and who will want to move where will mean that such a move will never take place.

Obviously, you didn't read my posts properly. I'm saying 8 is the final number but if we get 11 interested then to reduce to eight we would play a knockout comp. And the question of teams not being ready is somewhat valid but I feel that if they can't get a team two weeks before the kick off then they won't get a team later. How about each team posts in their own thread seven posts two weeks before the start and that the top eight scoring teams stay alive and the others are eliminated. I'm just proposing this so that the management team can have a look at it and have something to work with.

 

[The Backpacker]

While these ideas are all valid and should be explored, what happens if one of the teams that has loyally followed the sevens from home to home and consistantly posted a full compliment of players each round, has a bad game and gets eliminated. I know I'd be pretty pissed if it was our team or one of the other teams that finished in the top four. If, for no other reason than these teams made the top four because they turned up with 5 (for the most part) players each round. Elimination may need to be looked at but so too, the consequences.

 

[Alan Shore]

I will not support any elimination tournament in any way, shape or form. This thing will work on a first in, first served basis and with a limit of 8-10 teams maximum and from there on all efforts will be to consolidate current teams.

If we had this elimination thing for example, the Raiders have the likes of Raider 69, Ultima and skeepe but they would all play for Cronulla if the Raiders don't get in. They go and play as the Raiders and both teams would probably be screwed.

 

[The Backpacker]

I don't support it either Tama but am interested to read what everyone has to say on the subject and how it is proposed that it would be implemented. I personally think it will alienate people but I'm just a small fish in a big sea.

 

[The Engineers Room]

Just suggesting it. Now that I have seen your viewpoint I see the validity of your argument. I feel that first in may also serve to not create the best situation. Consider if Cronulla is in before Canberra. A few Canberra supporters come to F7's, now Tama will consider them his. But they might hate Cronulla and want to play for say Newtown. You can't force people to play where they don't want. And as a results Cronulla doesn't get the players and folds. But if the raiders were admitted they wouldn't have gone.

 

[StGeorge]

Maybe it would be an idea to have two or three trial matches before the reg season with a 500 word limti and have this open to however many teams, and choose which teams to have not on how well they go, but simply if they are competent, e.g have enough people, reserves, get it in on time, etc.
This way u have the proffessional teams in, and u dont have to be the best to go in, just be putting in the effort.
Also should there be an uneven number of teams in, that way there would be a bye.
I would support the bye as it allows more time and strategical use of this.
Also Willow how is the draw working for next season, u know yet

 

[StGeorge]

Id also like to suggest, what about having a theoretical salary cap?
The way it would work would be you would have an official in charge of each club, and would find the average score for the season of each player in that club. Every player would have this number as their value.
E.g, If Player A has an average score of 8.2, He would be worth
8.2 points, and worth more than Player B, who is only worth 7.3 points.
There would be a roster and salary cap limit, e.g Max of 15 players, and max of 100 points. (This is only an example.)
Rookies, those who are in their first year, would only be worth 4 points (again only an example.)
This would even up the competition, and include the managing aspect to forum 7's, and every club can have an executive who manages the club, and u have to file your team lists say i dont know maybe 2 - 3 weeks before the season, so to confirm places.
Please post what you think, and Willow could u post your thoughts to.

 

[Anonymous]

Maybe it would be an idea to have two or three trial matches before the reg season with a 500 word limti and have this open to however many teams, and choose which teams to have not on how well they go, but simply if they are competent, e.g have enough people, reserves, get it in on time, etc.
This way u have the proffessional teams in, and u dont have to be the best to go in, just be putting in the effort.
Also should there be an uneven number of teams in, that way there would be a bye.
I would support the bye as it allows more time and strategical use of this.
Also Willow how is the draw working for next season, u know yet

No, we dont even have finalised teams for next year yet.
There's a few officia functions to get out the way... a minor issue called the grand final and then there's the rep game and the awards night. lol
When the season is officially over, we can then focus on 2004.

The trials are a good idea and were successful earlier this year.
I have no doubt we'll see a few 500 word limit, 5-a-side matches over the off season.

I should imagine that the 2004 draw will be made early in the new year.

 

[The Engineers Room]

Id also like to suggest, what about having a theoretical salary cap?
The way it would work would be you would have an official in charge of each club, and would find the average score for the season of each player in that club. Every player would have this number as their value.
E.g, If Player A has an average score of 8.2, He would be worth
8.2 points, and worth more than Player B, who is only worth 7.3 points.
There would be a roster and salary cap limit, e.g Max of 15 players, and max of 100 points. (This is only an example.)
Rookies, those who are in their first year, would only be worth 4 points (again only an example.)
This would even up the competition, and include the managing aspect to forum 7's, and every club can have an executive who manages the club, and u have to file your team lists say i dont know maybe 2 - 3 weeks before the season, so to confirm places.
Please post what you think, and Willow could u post your thoughts to.

Good in theory but I just don't see it working. What happens when players come in mid-season? Can't just turn them away. And they definately would come mid-season.

 

[ParraMatt]

look I dont have a problem with how many teams we have, Lets play Trials with all the teams wanting to play and see if they are all capable of fielding a team ikn the trials therefore gives them the confidence to play in the actuall Competition. I think we will be suprised with how many teams will have full strong teams next season compared to this year. i think we will have 10-12 teams next season.

 

[Anonymous]

Well, after perhaps being the slowest person to make the jump from rleague to LU, I've decided that I'll be coming back in a big way to Forum 7's next season.

Personally, I see a limit of eight teams, with already established teams getting preference as the ideal way to run...

 

[ParraMatt]

Would you consider Rhinos an established team, As we did participate in the competition this year.

 

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't know, I didn't watch this year's comp after all the madness that occurred earlier this year. I think my main criteria would be how many posters that team could average each round. The teams who fielded the most players consistently would be rewarded.

 

[ParraMatt]

Who are you going to play for Garbo?

 

[Anonymous]

Don't know yet - the new season is still a long way off. Won't necessarily be Cronulla either, after reading a few comments up here I'm not sure if I like the way they were run this year.