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Him and Scott Minto the glaring omissions.
And SKD
Him and Scott Minto the glaring omissions.
Freddy is the forgotten genius in these 'Greatest Player' debates.
In terms of pure talent I think only Joey has him beat.
But Freddy had it all. I've never seen a more deadly duel attacking threat - passing and running game - he could carve you open with a 30m bullet pass to a centre/winger on the fly, or bust through your defence with great power and the game's most devastating sidestep of all time.
And in defence he was a brick ball. Absolutely impregnable and capable of defending at lock forward for 80 minutes with ease. How many halves can do that?
He was also a great centre in his early days so was world class in 3 positions. Just a total footy player.
And then you have to add in his leadership qualities and ability to inspire his teammates.
When he joined the Roosters, the club was a basketcase. And yet he led them to the finals in all 9 seasons; as well as 6 Prelim Finals; and 4 GFs and 1 Premiership in his final five seasons in his prime. And then he retired and the Roosters returned to being a basketcase for the next few years.
Also the most capped Blue of all time, he captained the Kangaroos to two World Cup victories as one of the most decorated rep players ever.
And yet, he never gets mentioned in the Immortals debate. But Inglis does? Again, drugs are bad.
There was no hooker near Buds for the majority of his career, similarly with Kennedy at back row.
I'm not disagreeing with your last point.
I have to agree that once in a generation is a bit much. No one was near Kennedy? Not Hindmarsh? Not Fitzgibbon? Not Menzies?
Come, now.
This is your worst alt yet.
I understand. It’s hard to admit you’re wrong.
Kennedy was twice the player Fitzgibbon was. Menzies was very good but Kennedy had him covered too.
Exactly correct. He is my rugby league hero for a very good reason. Will never forget some of those tries he scored. He is easily one of the greatest players ever.Freddy is the forgotten genius in these 'Greatest Player' debates.
In terms of pure talent I think only Joey has him beat.
But Freddy had it all. I've never seen a more deadly duel attacking threat - passing and running game - he could carve you open with a 30m bullet pass to a centre/winger on the fly, or bust through your defence with great power and the game's most devastating sidestep of all time.
And in defence he was a brick ball. Absolutely impregnable and capable of defending at lock forward for 80 minutes with ease. How many halves can do that?
He was also a great centre in his early days so was world class in 3 positions. Just a total footy player.
And then you have to add in his leadership qualities and ability to inspire his teammates.
When he joined the Roosters, the club was a basketcase. And yet he led them to the finals in all 9 seasons; as well as 6 Prelim Finals; and 4 GFs and 1 Premiership in his final five seasons in his prime. And then he retired and the Roosters returned to being a basketcase for the next few years.
Also the most capped Blue of all time, he captained the Kangaroos to two World Cup victories as one of the most decorated rep players ever.
And yet, he never gets mentioned in the Immortals debate. But Inglis does? Again, drugs are bad.
Some Newy fans like to promote the myth that Johns played with a team of nobodies to elevate his God Like status.
Kennedy and Buds where once in a generation talents at key positions.
Kennedy was not once in a generation. Please. He was a devastating forward, but not even the best back-rower of his time. I’d have at least Menzies & Fitzgibbon above him, & both had longer primes with fewer injuries.
Buderus was another great player, but his career was bookended by arguably better hookers in Walters & Smith - & in the meantime he faced fierce positional rivalry from Wing.
Craig f**king Wing.
Hahahahahaha.
f**k me. Your "that guy from my team" knows no bounds.
Craig Wing won 16 caps for Australia, was a key part of NSW's three-peat in the mid 2000s. He was a damn fine player, and it's not just a case of he played for my club
Probably because he continually gets shafted in these rankings.Why do these threads always turn into 'what about Freddy'?
That's right, Tommy and his sidekick King Bronco.
As good as Inglis I can't help but think he was overrated a bit. As great as he was on his day I felt he was very patchy and drifted in and out of form to much. The immortal talk about him is crazy.Probably because he continually gets shafted in these rankings.
Only a lifelong methhead would rate Greg Inglis as a better footy player than Freddy.
And I love Cooper Cronk more than anyone not named Tara Rushton, but I can say objectively that Freddy leaves Cooper for dead as a footy player too.
Why do these threads always turn into 'what about Freddy'?
That's right, Tommy and his sidekick King Bronco.