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Free kick for Broncos and Cowboys

Jobdog

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Ahhh, the old "they've got a better draw than [insert team here]" trick before a ball has even been kicked.

Free kick for the Broncos, Cowboys

Phil Rothfield Sports Editor-at-large

QUEENSLAND teams the Cowboys and the Broncos will get a massive free kick from a lopsided NRL draw when the most anticipated season in years kicks off tomorrow night.


While the salary cap is an integral part of the game to keep the competition on a level playing field, an unbalanced draw is doing the exact opposite.

The Daily Telegraph's analysis of each club over the 26 premiership rounds strongly suggests the Cowboys and the Broncos have more favourable schedules than their rivals.

Johnathan Thurston's Cowboys only play the most highly ranked teams in the NRL betting market on 10 occasions compared to other clubs who have to play the top teams 14 times in the race to the finals.

The Cowboys also get the luxury of playing competition strugglers the Cronulla Sharks and the Newcastle Knights twice while other teams only play them once.

North Queensland only play grand finalists the Dragons and Roosters once as well as the Wests Tigers and Storm once.

The Broncos' playing schedule is almost as favourable as the Cowboys. They have only 11 games against the top eight sides.

They get to play six relatively easier games against the Sharks, Cowboys and Knights. They play the Dragons, Roosters and Tigers only once and don't have the arduous road trip to New Zealand to play the Warriors.

Compare the Broncos' draw to the Wests Tigers, who only get three of the easier games by playing the Sharks, Cowboys and Knights once.

Match venues and home ground advantages will also have an important bearing on the competition and will affect fans.

The Dragons have seven of their last 10 games at home. Parramatta get five of their first seven games at home. Melbourne get seven of their first 10 at home.

Cronulla supporters don't get to see Parramatta at Shark Park, robbing their fans of seeing heroes Jarryd Hayne, Fuifui Moimoi and Nathan Hindmarsh in live action. The NRL draw used to be done a fairer way by breaking the competition into two pools.

On one side of the draw the teams that ran 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th, 9th, 11th, 13th and 15th the previous year would play each other twice and meet 2nd, 4th, 6th, 8th, 10th, 12, 14th and 16th once.

In more recent years, the NRL has asked all clubs to nominate from 1 to 16 which teams they would prefer to play at home.
The Queensland sides put local derbies as their top selections. The Sydney teams mostly pick the Dragons and Parramatta - the biggest crowd drawers - high on the list.

There have been many ideas discussed at the NRL chief executives' conferences over the years to have a fairer competition draw.
One put forward by Wests Tigers CEO Stephen Humphreys was to lengthen the season by six weeks in a competition that would ensure every side played each other twice.

The Humphreys blueprint would potentially raise an extra $20 million a year in television money, which would go to the players via a salary cap increase of $1 million per club.

However, the idea lacked support because of the obvious dangers of player burnout in a season that already includes State of Origin, City-Country and a Test match.

Other ideas floated include the eventual expansion to a 20-team competition including sides from Perth, Central Coast, Brisbane and Papua New Guinea. Every side would play each other once. There would be three free weekends during the season for State of Origin
and City-Country.
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applesauce

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I hate the NRL draw!

Gallop is the biggest hypocrite in sport. They way he goes on about how important the cap is while allowing no flexibility while this sh*t is going on is ridiculous!
 

adamkungl

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It's never been that big an issue with me. In the end to win the comp you have to beat the best.

Ideally though, I'd like to see a 20 team comp where everyone plays everyone else once, plus three rival nominations, for 22 matches. It still isn't perfectly balanced but it is entirely the clubs' choice whether they go for big crowds or an 'easy' match.
 

Jobdog

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It's not fair Timmah! It's giving the Broncos and Cowboys free matches against the Knights and Sharks! They might end up in the top four by the end of the season too (unlikely I know, but still possible), but that doesn't suit Mr Rothfield's agenda.
 

Quidgybo

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I'm sorry, but what's unfair about this? Each team nominates the teams in order that they would like to play at home (ie. the teams they are most likely to play twice). The basis on which they formulate their list is totally up to the teams themselves. They could frame their preferences to maximise home crowds, maximise television appearances, or to maximise chances of winning (ie. choose easier opponents). Every team will get more or less the same outcome on their list of preferences - eg. their top four preferences and six of their top eight preferences. What's unfair about that? It's just another Rothfield beat up to forment fan hysteria based on only a partial picture.

Leigh.
 
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applesauce

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What's wrong with the draw? :?

The Sharks and Knights could be good teams this year so going by last years trends is stupid.

When teams play the Warriors once but not away, some teams play the Dragons (who will be there abouts) twice but others don't, some teams play the out of form team for the year twice but others; don't it is simply unfair.

Considering how close the 8 is every year 2points here and there can be the difference between missing the 8 and a top4 finish.
 

AlwaysGreen

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Laughable how he citesHumphries blueprint without mentioning that games would be cut from 80 to 60 minutes. The thick bastard has substituted his liquid lunches for breakfast brews these days.
 
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user_nat

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How stupid.

Only 3 of the 8 teams who made the finals in 2009 were in the 2010 finals. Even had Melbourne been in contention it would have knocked Manly out, leaving 3/8 still. Heck, the 2009 spooners were in the GF.


"The Cowboys also get the luxury of playing competition strugglers the Cronulla Sharks and the Newcastle Knights twice"

Cowboys struggled more than either of those teams last year..
 
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applesauce

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How stupid.

Only 3 of the 8 teams who made the finals in 2009 were in the 2010 finals. Even had Melbourne been in contention it would have knocked Manly out, leaving 3/8 still. Heck, the 2009 spooners were in the GF.


"The Cowboys also get the luxury of playing competition strugglers the Cronulla Sharks and the Newcastle Knights twice"

Cowboys struggled more than either of those teams last year..

The article is stupid in it's specificity. But those discrepancies are varied with each team still. Even if the Sharks finish on top you could say the Broncos and Cowboys are hard done by, with Wests get an easy draw...

That is why it is unfair IMO.
 

Billythekid

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The Sharks and Knights could be good teams this year so going by last years trends is stupid.

When teams play the Warriors once but not away, some teams play the Dragons (who will be there abouts) twice but others don't, some teams play the out of form team for the year twice but others; don't it is simply unfair.

Considering how close the 8 is every year 2points here and there can be the difference between missing the 8 and a top4 finish.

Yes but you also have to consider how unpredictable the comp is. You can't just go by how successful teams were last year.
 

Packy

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What a pile of turd.

Who's to say (heh) that teh Sharks and Knights won't be the teams to beat by the end of the year, and the draw was a curse for the Uncoes and Cowtards?
 

RufusRex

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only way to fix that is have a 14 team comp and no state of origin ... that way you can play two complete home and away rounds where all teams play the others twice ... wont happen
 

BDGS

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Biggest non-topic of the season.

people getting their panties in a twist over nothing, on with the season.

LOL - just saw that this is a rothfield article, what you'd expect?
 
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The only change to the draw that should be made is that all Sydney teams play each other twice. We play Parra once in the second last round.
 

Canard

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Imagine saying the Cowboys get it easy by playing the Knights and Sharks.

Its completey the other way around, we have been bottom of the ladder for three seasons and have been the competitions "bye", the Sharkies and Knights have go 4 comp points all but guaranteed right there.
 

skeepe

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If Rothfield really wanted to focus on the inequalities of the draw, he could have looked at the ridiculous nature of the byes scheduled for the Raiders (separated by 2 rounds and both the round AFTER representative matches, meaning we have to play all the rep-affected rounds minus our best players).

But he wouldn't be able to complain about Queensland favouritism then.
 

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