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Friday Night Commercials

SUG

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I think its a joke on how many commercials there are during the friday night game (and how long they are) ... Just as the game starts to pick up you go to a five minute commercial break... what a joke

did anybody else notice it ?????????
 

Grantwhy

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Expect a lot less comercials during the game next Friday night though 8).

Well, those of you in NSW anyway ..... it's a live broadcast for you .. assuming Ch.Nein are going to show the game at 8.30 NSW time. It looks like for Queensland they are going with the regular 1 hour delay :?.
 

PARRA_FAN

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Sunday's was worse, they came back from an ad break and then the ads were on 30 seconds later. What a joke. :x

Friday night games are annoying, I mean its delayed then they have that stupid Holden half time, which they dont need. By the time that's finished that real game would be over by then. They should have Friday night matches live instead of putting some stupid renovation rescue crap.
 

Copa

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The game finishes too late. My partner usually goes to bed before the finish and I'm starting to feel pretty tired at the end also.

How are kids supposed to watch their RL heros play when games start and finish so late??
 

brooksy19

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good point copa. under 7's usually kick off at 7am. no way would they be able to watch the whole game.
 

Raider_69

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you make a good point copa but its a friday night man, let the little ones stay up for the footy, not like they have school the next day
 

Copa

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Many kids wouldn't be able to stay up that late anyway... even if given permission. Some kids rarely get to see a whole game of NRL on TV. Doesn't do much for getting them into the game.
 

griff

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Live coverage has so many benefits in terms of more young kids being able to watch the game, more interest in the event etc

The problem is that unlike AFL or cricket which have regular convenient breaks in play after goals or overs, RL doesn't. So for a TV station to put a RL game on live means that they can't fit that many ads into it and consequently it isn't anywhere near as profitable for them. At the moment with delayed coverage they can just pause the tape and pack in all the ads they want.

Another problem is that on the rare occasions we do have a live match, we often miss the kickoff after a try because the TV station is still on an ad break.

Live coverage would be great for the code, but it isn't going to happen on a regular basis until it is more economically viable for the broadcaster.

For some reason people seem to have a real problem with this, but RL needs to make itself more friendly to live FTA TV coverage.

When a goal is scored in AFL, they go to an ad break and the umpire isn't allowed to restart play until the TV station has come back from the break. They could do this very easily in RL.

During live FTA matches when the ball goes out of play for whatever reason, say a dropout or knock on, or ball in touch, the video ref doesn't let play restart for 35 seconds or so. After a try you could have 95 seconds or so. This would allow the TV station to squeeze in ads.

This would mean there would be much more incentive for live FTA matches, which would be great for the code, there would be fewer and better quality ads and we would never miss any of the action because of a damn ad break ever again.
 

-ReyRey-

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Hmm yeh it was ridiculous how long each commercial break was during the friday night game, usually they are only like one or two ads during each break, but this time they were showing like a normal amount of ads or maybe even more for a break, they definatly need to make the games live or just put in less ads or something, they should also take out Holden Halftime, there is no use for it, most of us would have seen the first half so we would have known what was going on..
 

PARRA_FAN

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If they cant have all Fri night matches live then they should have it live if its not in the area. Eg. Friday night game in Brisbane, should be shown live in Sydney. If the games in Sydney, then show it delayed, but dont play too many ads and get rid of holden half time. Show the stats just before the restart. We dont want it to be too fancy.
 
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griff said:
Live coverage has so many benefits in terms of more young kids being able to watch the game, more interest in the event etc

The problem is that unlike AFL or cricket which have regular convenient breaks in play after goals or overs, RL doesn't. So for a TV station to put a RL game on live means that they can't fit that many ads into it and consequently it isn't anywhere near as profitable for them. At the moment with delayed coverage they can just pause the tape and pack in all the ads they want.

Another problem is that on the rare occasions we do have a live match, we often miss the kickoff after a try because the TV station is still on an ad break.

Live coverage would be great for the code, but it isn't going to happen on a regular basis until it is more economically viable for the broadcaster.

For some reason people seem to have a real problem with this, but RL needs to make itself more friendly to live FTA TV coverage.

When a goal is scored in AFL, they go to an ad break and the umpire isn't allowed to restart play until the TV station has come back from the break. They could do this very easily in RL.

During live FTA matches when the ball goes out of play for whatever reason, say a dropout or knock on, or ball in touch, the video ref doesn't let play restart for 35 seconds or so. After a try you could have 95 seconds or so. This would allow the TV station to squeeze in ads.

This would mean there would be much more incentive for live FTA matches, which would be great for the code, there would be fewer and better quality ads and we would never miss any of the action because of a damn ad break ever again.

I think you're on the money griff.

Also, it would fit in with something I've always believed would be good (and stop time wasting) - when the referee awards a try and points to the spot the clock should stop. Time could restart at the kickoff, and this would fit with you're idea of waiting 30secs for an ad to finish.

Another way to make the game more tv friendly (and even player friendly) is four quarter football. At the 20 min break, the tv network could have 4/5 mins of ads in a live broadcast. I'm not a 100% believer in 4 quarters but it would be great if it meant footy would be live on FTA.
 

Darth Bobo

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Man_of_Steel_1982 said:
griff said:
Live coverage has so many benefits in terms of more young kids being able to watch the game, more interest in the event etc

The problem is that unlike AFL or cricket which have regular convenient breaks in play after goals or overs, RL doesn't. So for a TV station to put a RL game on live means that they can't fit that many ads into it and consequently it isn't anywhere near as profitable for them. At the moment with delayed coverage they can just pause the tape and pack in all the ads they want.

Another problem is that on the rare occasions we do have a live match, we often miss the kickoff after a try because the TV station is still on an ad break.

Live coverage would be great for the code, but it isn't going to happen on a regular basis until it is more economically viable for the broadcaster.

For some reason people seem to have a real problem with this, but RL needs to make itself more friendly to live FTA TV coverage.

When a goal is scored in AFL, they go to an ad break and the umpire isn't allowed to restart play until the TV station has come back from the break. They could do this very easily in RL.

During live FTA matches when the ball goes out of play for whatever reason, say a dropout or knock on, or ball in touch, the video ref doesn't let play restart for 35 seconds or so. After a try you could have 95 seconds or so. This would allow the TV station to squeeze in ads.

This would mean there would be much more incentive for live FTA matches, which would be great for the code, there would be fewer and better quality ads and we would never miss any of the action because of a damn ad break ever again.

I think you're on the money griff.

Also, it would fit in with something I've always believed would be good (and stop time wasting) - when the referee awards a try and points to the spot the clock should stop. Time could restart at the kickoff, and this would fit with you're idea of waiting 30secs for an ad to finish.

Another way to make the game more tv friendly (and even player friendly) is four quarter football. At the 20 min break, the tv network could have 4/5 mins of ads in a live broadcast. I'm not a 100% believer in 4 quarters but it would be great if it meant footy would be live on FTA.

How about we don't change our game of nearly 100 years to fit into a TV stations programming?

Although your points have some merits about it you have to be careful with the "give an inch take a mile" attitude stations have. A further little change made here another one there and after time we could end up with the dribble that NFL has become where the players at the ground have to stand around and wait for the station to come back from commercial breaks. When I go to game of Rugby League I hate seeing any break in play, the Video Ref at the Tigers Eels game felt like it was taking an eternity with each decision to get back on with the game.

Now I'm sure I'm not alone in getting impatient with breaks in play and the Video Ref taking too long and that is for the benfit of the game, something that was developed to get decisions right, so how are you going to feel waiting for the game to restart knowing that it is just so the station can go to a commercial break? Is it just going to be the 1 game each week that the players get extra to catch thier breath? What about the games on Foxtel? Or when the replay of the Nein game is shown of Fox how is it going to look with players milling about waiting for the commercials to stop?

Our game is already a hell of a product for TV and that is why we are getting so many commercials because advertisers and Ch Nein know that a lot of people are going to be watching. I think a better solution is to simply increase the cost of a 30sec ad break when the footy is on, for example, instead of say 5 ads at 10 grand they should do 4 ads at 15 grand. League will always be a ratings winner in Sydney and Brisbane and if there are less commercials and the game finishes earlier than perhaps more people will watch the whole game and become more of a league supporter which will mean even higher ratings.
 
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There was one ad break on Friday night that went for nearly six minutes. It's good if you want to make a cuppa and/or go the loo, but you probably only do that once during the game. It's now almost 11pm by the time the telecast finishes and that is a bit of the ridiculous side. It basically means that you have almost as much time with ad breaks and things like the preview and half time reviews than you have for the actual football.

Unfortunately, the media owns the game and I can't see that changing in the foreseeable future.
 

Darth Bobo

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What I'd like to see the return of is when, I think it was when channel 10 had the footy, they use to have the players do a bit of a sketch that was left open before the game and then after the game the last bit of the coverage had the winners coming out on top at the end of the sketch.

I remember they did a Wild West one because the big guns were meeting (don't remeber the teams involved) with some forwards facing off ready for a gun fight, some words were exchanged and there one of them came out with the classic "Draw", it cut to the intro to the footy the game was played and then at the end you had the winners blowing the smoke from thier guns and the losers dead on the ground. The whole family use to enjoy that part of the coverage.

And that was just one of many I'm sure the elder generation of supporters in here remember others, it was great stuff and with the players knowing the dollars on offer in the media after they retire I'm sure you will have players lining up to get involved in them to get thier heads on camera.

If the coverage is going to go forever at least make it more entertaining instead of getting 30mins worth of "expert" opinions on the game.
 

griff

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Darth Bobo said:
How about we don't change our game of nearly 100 years to fit into a TV stations programming?

Obviously the first reaction most people will have is that there is no way the game should change just to fit into TV. But the changes wouldn't be that major - we have plenty of breaks in play anyway of almost that long. It will just be making the breaks suitable for the TV station so they can go to an ad safe in the knowledge they (or us) won't miss anything.

Having less more expensive ads might be an idea. But Nine aren't the number 1 TV station for decades in a row for nothing, they understand the TV business and obviously structure their telecast in what they think is the most profitable way for them.

However the thing is as people have mentioned they pack up to 6 minutes of ads in a row into the football coverage. Obviously this makes people leave the room and switch off.

Instead of 6 minutes of ads every 15 minutes, I reckon it would be better to have a 30 second ad every couple of minutres. This would keep people in their loungerooms watching.

As you know an ad by itself in the middle of the action is going to cost much more than an ad buried in the middle of 19 other ads. So this means instead of crappy cheap ads going to air they would be much better quality ads and better quality products, so wouldn't be as annoying.

In an ideal world every game would be live commercial free on FTA TV. But commercial TV doesn't exist for our benefit, it exists to make money for its owners. And delaying the coverage and stuffing it full of ads makes much more money for the TV stations than playing it live.

As I see it the only way we are going to get more live FTA coverage is to make it more profitable for the TV stations. The only way to do this is to find a way to fit more ads into existing breaks in play.
 

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