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Furner should be SACKED

Beavo

Juniors
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Okay, I can take it no longer, I know it will never happen because of family connections, but David Furner has proved he is not capable of coaching our Raiders.

Sunday's match was terrible, it was one of the worst displays I have ever seen from the Green Machine. There have been seasons past where we have been ordinary, but nothing like this in the past 20 years. This season is shaping as a disaster.

Here are the reasons why he shold be gone:

Hooker
Why have we not manufactured an 80 minute hooker...? Starting in about 1998, when we had both Woolford and Priddis on our books we accommodated both, somehow more than a decade later the hangover remains. Trying to turn Alan Tongue into hooker has not worked, he shouldn't go near dummy half. He passing off the ground is so slow, it astounds me that he cannot pick it up and pass it quicker, if he can't work this out for himself and he's going to be picked there - can someone coach him in the various aspects he needs to learn?

Alan Tongue again
I love the guy, biggest heart in the comp and a useful (yet unconventional) backrower, but he is not a hooker or temporary half. Every time he slips into first receiver a sigh can be heard from every Raiders fan within earshot. He is not a half, keep him away from the halves.

Overlaps
We are awful at allowing overlaps, its almost like we try to create them. This was shocking last year and it has got worse this year, our backs creep so far infield and lose their men that as soon as the ball is spread wide we're in big trouble. The only saving grace has been the cover defence of little champion Dugan, that kid deserves a medal for the punishment the other 12 players pile on him.

Fitness/lazyness/Size of our fowards
I believe a combination of the above is killing us each week. As the game rolls on, our forwards start disappearing. After retrieving a kick it has become common for us to be three or four tackles into the set before one forward hit up, terrible. Our size must be a factor, this problem has been manufactured over time, but I think we're plainly not fit enough, in the professional age - how does this happen? And I suspect that Prince Furner doesn't kick their butts enough for being lazy, but that's purely my speculation.

Players understanding
Nothing frustrates me more than players not knowing basic tactics, how is it possible that a punter like myself can have a better grip on some things than a professional who earns a six figure wage and the coaching staff?
Here is an example - whenever we kick downfield, our backs will chase through and tackle whoever has the ball, then more often than not we will hold him down!!?? The good sides will let them get up and play the ball quickly when hardly any players are back in support yet. But we will slow play down to their advantage, let take a hit up then do it again, it is ridiculous and how our coaching staff from the top down have not picked up on this is criminal.

David Furner inherited a healthy side, sure he could have done without the Carney saga, but regardless the team has gone nowhere but backward on his watch.

Have a look at the list, guys like; Campo, Harrison, Dugan, Learoyd-Lars, Miller, Shillington and Vidot (would have included Monaghan if he wasn't out) are class. They are top players and should be forming a great spine for the team. Sure we don't have the big names, but we've got much better players than a lot of other sides.

I am worried about hearing Furner say something along the lines of 'three year plan' or some rubbish about 'development season', that is him buying time, justifying his position and nothing else.

If this were any other industry, Furner would be walked to his desk to clear belongings then escorted out of the building.

I would dearly love to be proved wrong, but I reckon it's only going to get worse and as well as further suffering we'll also lose guys like Dugan.

We are fast turning into one of the jokes of the league. If he won't walk with dignity, sack David Furner.
 

Cryptic

Juniors
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Shh! Stop bring reality into it! They would much rather just yell at someone with-out an alternative or useful suggestion (at least as to what to do with the coach, who again I still don't think is the problem and it's amazing how many arm chair experts we always have aparantly, somehow, know better).
 

matt

Juniors
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1,114
Who is next?

A bloke with smarts and panache would have this all under control that's what they do.

So who is next,I will go with Folksey or Muppet or kermit the frog .
 
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Sack him and sack all of them while we are at it I say.

How about their parents what should we do with them for bringing the incompetent pieces of sh* into the world.

What about God ? FM he has to be accountable for this as well.


Boo Hoo cry me a river.
 

Green Machine

First Grade
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I don’t think their fitness is all that bad. So far, they have been able to defend for repeat set, defend after dropping the ball on early tackles and defend on turn overs without getting a kick away in average to poor field position.
I would like to see a change of coach at the end of the season if Furner continues to play the lock at dummy half and has not developed a halfback who can work the team around the paddock, who also possess’ a competent short kicking game,
 

matt

Juniors
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RRA,I think he just said the coach,you may want to read it again.


you are showing signs of EMOtive confusion.
 

matt

Juniors
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Because he sees the coach as the one that prepares the side weekly to win but they lose mostly,

but I suppose you could really be asking as well who employs the coach?
 
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i wouldn't sack Furner he has the brain to be a good coach just needs to put it into action and adapt to the strengths this great football team has
 

skeepe

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I rate Furner highly. Very promising coach. I thought Sunday was our best performance of the year, and I only expect us to improve from here.

I'm very comfortable with the direction Furner is taking this team. Quick question for all you sack the coach types: would you be so quick to dismiss him if his brother wasn't CEO? Or is that just a convenient angle for you to attack?

I believe David Furner is the man to lead us to our next premiership.
 

matt

Juniors
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totally agree skeepe,well said.

Anyways...............


How long is David contracted for?
 
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I rate Furner highly. Very promising coach. I thought Sunday was our best performance of the year, and I only expect us to improve from here.

I'm very comfortable with the direction Furner is taking this team. Quick question for all you sack the coach types: would you be so quick to dismiss him if his brother wasn't CEO? Or is that just a convenient angle for you to attack?

I believe David Furner is the man to lead us to our next premiership.
Well said thats what i was half getting at in my last post everyone is just frustrated as this is such a promising football team and its not clicking from round one we just got to be patient as the team is super young and the coach is young (little coach experience) in that respect too. We all have got the sh*ts in atleast one area for me its mainly McCrone but we just got to be patient there are signs every week of a premiership contending team in action
 

matt

Juniors
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I have seen absolutely nothing to suggest we will be a premiership force soon,let alone a top 12 side,Yep a few handy Juniors that every club seems to have in the under 20's,but thats about it.
 
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Because he sees the coach as the one that prepares the side weekly to win but they lose mostly,

but I suppose you could really be asking as well who employs the coach?

yes and its the players who drop the ball , miss the tackle etc.

Do we sack the Furner from the 1st half , or the 2nd half last week.

because before halftime he would of been a genius to most of you.
 

matt

Juniors
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So who picks the coach that picks the players? Should we more be looking at him?

No we shouldn't blame anyone right,blame is not in the happy clappers repetoire right?
(TBH i don't know that you are are a HP per say, but that post has a definate smell to it);-)

As usual with any home game the opposition side was counting sheep,then Mr Tim Sheens say's hey boys it's the Raiders,they can't run with the big boys and there you have it.

I never thought we ever where gong to win it,this club fills me with NO confidence ATM.
 
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