Future face of English RL - Multicultural ?

[league13]

Well it's certainly affected things at MT Pleasant Batley which is surrounded by the Pakistani community.I would say you are well out Spud with your estimate.It's hard to believe someone coming from Oldham could come out with those figures.

 

[roughyedspud]

You are well under there spud according to the 2011 census the ethnic population of oldham totalled 22.5% with 11% Pakistani and 7% Bangaladeshi. So in fact the idiots have a point when they say they are everywhere and large parts of town it's hard to spot a white face on the streets on in the schools,I have even had oh you're from Oldhamabad from the Mancs down the hill.
http://www.vaoldham.org.uk/sites/vaoldham.org.uk/files/Census 2011 key stats briefing 14 Dec 12.pdf

i was looking at this site


http://localstats.qpzm.co.uk/stats/england/north-west/oldham


and ive never heard oldhamabad in my life lol........nor is it "large parts of the town" either...certain areas yeah...but thats the case practically everywhere in the world....little italy's,chinatowns,koreatowns etc did'nt get called that for nothing...immigrant settle in together...always have always will...and i don't have a problem with that as long as they pay their taxes...

 

[roughyed8]

i was looking at this site


http://localstats.qpzm.co.uk/stats/england/north-west/oldham


and ive never heard oldhamabad in my life lol........nor is it "large parts of the town" either...certain areas yeah...but thats the case practically everywhere in the world....little italy's,chinatowns,koreatowns etc did'nt get called that for nothing...immigrant settle in together...always have always will...and i don't have a problem with that as long as they pay their taxes...

Looks like the same stats but in the oldham council ones they have counted the Asians born in the UK as ethnic minority whereas yours just shows the ones born outside the UK, The Oldhamabad came from a bloke in Newton Heath i delivered to, and not to get into semantics or a big argument i would say Glodwick,Coppice,Werneth,Westwood and parts of North Chadderton do constiute a large part of town.

 

[CC_Roosters]

Do the clubs in high minority areas try to engage or just bob along happy with their traditional support? Its clear that some schools are at least 90% minorities in areas but thats no reason to not engage those schools by sending players, running clinincs etc.... from there every child can make their choice if the game is for them or not.

 

[roughyedspud]

bob along with their traditional support,pointless trying to engage asian minority cos they really do keep themselves to themself....

i don't think theres enough eastern europeans to warrant targeted PR...you just have to hope the see the normal adverts for games....but as someone already pointed out they are more likely to start following the local football team.

 

[CC_Roosters]

bob along with their traditional support,pointless trying to engage asian minority cos they really do keep themselves to themself....

i don't think theres enough eastern europeans to warrant targeted PR...you just have to hope the see the normal adverts for games....but as someone already pointed out they are more likely to start following the local football team.

Socially that is the case for that community. But particularly primary school age kids are impressionable and the RFL/clubs should make a concerted effort, as its not as if the south asian community is going to up and leave all of a sudden they are part of the demographic now

 

[Paullyboy]

Socially that is the case for that community. But particularly primary school age kids are impressionable and the RFL/clubs should make a concerted effort, as its not as if the south asian community is going to up and leave all of a sudden they are part of the demographic now

I don't think you realise just how segregated the communities are. I was baffled when I was abused by a 7 year old who told me to get out of 'his community' (a heavily sub continent populated area).

 

[roughyedspud]

he must realise....its no different to greek,italian,lebanese areas of sydney..but were as these immigrants into australia mainly involve themselves in the exsisting community...here asians tend not too..

 

[The Partisan]

Ok - have a greater understanding and appreciation of the real and perceived difficulties with the Sub continent originated portion of the population - how about the Poles, Germans, other ????

 

[deluded pom?]

Ok - have a greater understanding and appreciation of the real and perceived difficulties with the Sub continent originated portion of the population - how about the Poles, Germans, other ????

Why would Germans need to come to the UK in numbers?

 

[roughyedspud]

don't think he understands why large numbers of east europeans have come to the uk....

1.the can earn double or treble what they earn in east europe doing the same job..just to give you a example 15 years ago hgv truck driving used to be a relatively well paid job..£30-40k a year was common..then the poles turned up and said "we'll do it for £20k."...completely ripping the arse out the market..

2. if the don't get a job the benefits they'll get is more money than they'd get if the stayed and worked in their native countries..

a german is unlikely to earn more in the uk than he would in germany...hence why theres not a mass movement of germans....which is a good thing,we get nervous when they move on mass and cross boarders lol

 

[The Partisan]

Hi guys,

My reference to a growing German community was based purely on stats i'd seen on my migration into Northern England. The numbers weren't big admittedly.

Done some reading in globalisation so am mildly aware of the Eastern European infux and impact. Didnt a lot of Poles get bus driving jobs ?

Regardless i was just curious as to whether the melting pot of migration will have a long term impact on the makeup of the game in the UK.

 

[The Partisan]

Oops ! Not my migration to Northern England !!!!


Though i could handle a year or two over there from a travel and RL perspective !

 

[roughyedspud]

Regardless i was just curious as to whether the melting pot of migration will have a long term impact on the makeup of the game in the UK.

highly unlikely....you might get the odd one coming through the system,probably from the london area, Olsi Krasniqi who is a albainia immigrant came through the london system...and i know theres some polish lads in the london system too