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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

T-Boon

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Souths and Collingwood say hi
Souths Sydney? They are not particularly big and anyway south Sydney is a huge area.
Collingwood I don’t know much about but I don’t think Redcliffe will be the equivalent. Will Redcliffe eventually play all their games at that 12k venue of theirs in Redcliffe. It’s a great venue. They should.
 

mongoose

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Souths Sydney? They are not particularly big and anyway south Sydney is a huge area.
Collingwood I don’t know much about but I don’t think Redcliffe will be the equivalent. Will Redcliffe eventually play all their games at that 12k venue of theirs in Redcliffe. It’s a great venue. They should.
lol dude is such an AFL troll
 
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yeah those millions of people north of geraldton really let them down...
The people of Perth let the Reds down. If the Reds pulled 21,000 to their games, like the Cowboys managed in Townsville with a team that won just 2 games, then they wouldn't have been culled. Less than 14k turned up on a regular basis to watch the Reds at the WACA in 1995, despite the team having a good roster and winning half of its games.
 
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The people of Perth let the Reds down. If the Reds pulled 21,000 to their games, like the Cowboys managed in Townsville with a team that won just 2 games, then they wouldn't have been culled. Less than 14k turned up on a regular basis to watch the Reds at the WACA in 1995, despite the team having a good roster and winning half of its games.
You have NFI about the history behind why clubs were culled at the end of the SL war .
 

Perth Red

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The people of Perth let the Reds down. If the Reds pulled 21,000 to their games, like the Cowboys managed in Townsville with a team that won just 2 games, then they wouldn't have been culled. Less than 14k turned up on a regular basis to watch the Reds at the WACA in 1995, despite the team having a good roster and winning half of its games.
haha the comp avg that year was only 13.9k.
Yeh an AFL city with the first ever prof RL team playing at a cricket ground should have drawn better than RL heartland. cuckoo cuckoo
 
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haha the comp avg that year was only 13.9k.
Yeh an AFL city with the first ever prof RL team playing at a cricket ground should have drawn better than RL heartland. cuckoo cuckoo

What's your point?

That Perth is a rusted on fumbleball city and won't support a professional rugby league club?

I've been telling you this for months.

Spare me the bullshit excuse about the WACA being a cricket ground. Perth Stadium is a cricket ground, yet you reckon it's fine for Origin and big NRL games.

Townsville's population was about 131k in 1995. Perth's population was 1.319m. For every one person in Townsville, there were 10 in Perth.

Despite the population imbalance, Cowboys managed to draw 21,670 to their home games. Reds drew a poultry 13,390. What happened in Sydney is irrelevant because the Super League War had a bigger impact on them than it did for the expansion clubs in 1995.

Dress it up however you like, but the statistics show that Perth has little to offer the NRL. You always go on about Perth's size being a reason to put a team there. Now you're saying the Reds were never going to draw big crowds because Perth is a fumbleball city.

Thank you for exposing the folly of putting a team in Perth.
 

SpaceMonkey

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Souths Sydney? They are not particularly big and anyway south Sydney is a huge area.
Collingwood I don’t know much about but I don’t think Redcliffe will be the equivalent. Will Redcliffe eventually play all their games at that 12k venue of theirs in Redcliffe. It’s a great venue. They should.
Collingwood is a poxy little inner Melbourne suburb. Doesn’t seem to have stopped them attracting fans from all round the country.
South Sydney don’t cover a huge geographical area but they have tons of fans from outside it.
 
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Perth Red

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What's your point?

That Perth is a rusted on fumbleball city and won't support a professional rugby league club?

I've been telling you this for months.

Spare me the bullshit excuse about the WACA being a cricket ground. Perth Stadium is a cricket ground, yet you reckon it's fine for Origin and big NRL games.

Townsville's population was about 131k in 1995. Perth's population was 1.319m. For every one person in Townsville, there were 10 in Perth.

Despite the population imbalance, Cowboys managed to draw 21,670 to their home games. Reds drew a poultry 13,390. What happened in Sydney is irrelevant because the Super League War had a bigger impact on them than it did for the expansion clubs in 1995.

Dress it up however you like, but the statistics show that Perth has little to offer the NRL. You always go on about Perth's size being a reason to put a team there. Now you're saying the Reds were never going to draw big crowds because Perth is a fumbleball city.

Thank you for exposing the folly of putting a team in Perth.
That to expect an AFL city to outperform RL heartlands in its first year is either incredibly optimistic or incredibly stupid. Or maybe someone just looking to justify a myopic view of what the NRL should be?

haha you think the WACA in 1995 was comparable to Optus stadium? cuckoo cuckoo
 
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Just to rub it in a bit more.

Here's an answer I got using the new Bing, the world’s first AI-powered answer engine. Click to see the full answer and try it yourself. https://sl.bing.net/jALGtr2XW9c

The **Perth Reds** were a rugby league team based in Perth, Western Australia. They played in the Australian Rugby League (ARL) competition from 1995 to 1996 and in the Super League competition in 1997¹. The team was shut down at the end of the 1997 season due to financial difficulties¹. The club's final game was a 22-16 loss to the North Queensland Cowboys on August 31, 1997².

I hope that helps! Let me know if you have any other questions.

Source: Conversation with Bing, 4/1/2024
(1) 1997 Perth Reds season - Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_Perth_Reds_season.
(2) Super League 1997 - Western Reds - RLP - Rugby League Project. https://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/seasons/super-league-1997/western-reds/summary.html.
(3) 1997.(27-7-97)..Super-League World Club Championship..Perth Reds v .... .​
 
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That to expect an AFL city to outperform RL heartlands in its first year is either incredibly optimistic or incredibly stupid. Or maybe someone just looking to justify a myopic view of what the NRL should be?

haha you think the WACA in 1995 was comparable to Optus stadium? cuckoo cuckoo

I'm comparing Townsville with Perth. Stop trying to shift the goalposts by adding Sydney into the equation. There was a huge fallout in Sydney when the Super League War broke out in 1995 that led to fans revolting.

Both the Reds and Cowboys made their debut in 1995. Reds won half their games. Cowboys won just two. Cowboys played out of a dumpy ground that was put together at the last second by the players. Didn't stop them from drawing 21,670 fans to their home games

You once said the Cowboys should have been booted in 1997 so the Reds could be kept around.
 
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Back to stadiums, just waiting for an NRL tenant after a further $35million spent on it last year.

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Argh, the typical deflection tactic PR uses when he doesn't have an argument.

If you want to talk about stadia, then tell me why Perth's premier rectangular stadium is such a shithole compared to one that's based in a regional city?

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Townsville only has one tenant at its world class stadium. Perth has two at its shithole.
 

Canard

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I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say the major reason Townsville has a high quality stadium is because of its NRL team.

And even then it's only been for 3 seasons of their 28 year existence.

Despite Perth not having a NRL team, there rectangular stadium is still better then half the NRLs.
 

Pippen94

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It's the only way that anybody could genuinely believe that Brisbane, or any other city for that matter, is sooooo unique and special that the tried and true methods for building the largest intracity derbies in the world, that've been repeated dozens of times, couldn't possibly be successful in Brisbane.

Anybody that's at that point is stuck in a dogmatic echo chamber that's been feeding them a steady diet of BS, and that isn't healthy or something to be proud of.

..by creating plastic team which is cheap knock off of existing one; like Melbourne City, se Qld crushers, la clippers, GWS..
 

Pippen94

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Souths Sydney? They are not particularly big and anyway south Sydney is a huge area.
Collingwood I don’t know much about but I don’t think Redcliffe will be the equivalent. Will Redcliffe eventually play all their games at that 12k venue of theirs in Redcliffe. It’s a great venue. They should.

Ur about year late with scare campaign: Dolphins already one of biggest teams in league
 

Canard

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..by creating plastic team which is cheap knock off of existing one; like Melbourne City, se Qld crushers, la clippers, GWS..

..32k members in first season. Failure

Ur about year late with scare campaign: Dolphins already one of biggest teams in league

Perth reds died mate.

Tigers played out Birchgrove, Drummoyne, Lilyfield..never balmain

Is this Meth or a manic episode?
 

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