The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[NWQRabbit]

Accor, Allianz, Commbank and soon to be Penrith are all under the VenuesNSW umbrella.

With regards to souths moving, the government would not want to halve the number of club games at the venue and the ceo naively signed a deal there, so they don't have much leverage atm.

The data souths have on their members says that they are spread right around Sydney with a lot in the west. I think they are a team that could make a split between accor and allianz work.

The good friday game would stay there when it is a souths home game and both clubs should try to organise a game there during the easter show (does it run for 2 weeks) when they don't host good friday.

Another 2 or 3 games ideally against 'western sydney' sides should be there every year, and with all sides playing in VenuesNSW stadia there should be an option to upgrade memberships to include these games for all particapating clubs.

Same deal with regards to memberships, all clubs should offer a 'sydney' membership which gets entry into all the games their club plays at these 4 stadiums. (Might have to cap it at the new penrith stadium if home demand is still high there)

This leaves 6 games for souths at allianz as they currently only play 10 home games in sydney. If perth comes in and they no longer sell that game, they could use it as a sweetener and add it to accor.

 

[Perth Red]

Accor, Allianz, Commbank and soon to be Penrith are all under the VenuesNSW umbrella.

With regards to souths moving, the government would not want to halve the number of club games at the venue and the ceo naively signed a deal there, so they don't have much leverage atm.

The data souths have on their members says that they are spread right around Sydney with a lot in the west. I think they are a team that could make a split between accor and allianz work.

The good friday game would stay there when it is a souths home game and both clubs should try to organise a game there during the easter show (does it run for 2 weeks) when they don't host good friday.

Another 2 or 3 games ideally against 'western sydney' sides should be there every year, and with all sides playing in VenuesNSW stadia there should be an option to upgrade memberships to include these games for all particapating clubs.

Same deal with regards to memberships, all clubs should offer a 'sydney' membership which gets entry into all the games their club plays at these 4 stadiums. (Might have to cap it at the new penrith stadium if home demand is still high there)

This leaves 6 games for souths at allianz as they currently only play 10 home games in sydney. If perth comes in and they no longer sell that game, they could use it as a sweetener and add it to accor.

Good call, why the NRL and Venues NSW doesn't offer reciprocal games at these big venues for clubs playing at their stadiums remains a mystery! Potentially turns a 30k crowd into a 45k or 50k one.

 

[flippikat]

Latest video from Eden Park, showing the staged development plans.

 

[Brutus]

Do you mean like spending money on 3 new rectangular stadiums at Moore Park, Penrith and Parramatta over the last 10 years?

3 stadiums for 3 NRL teams.

Great.

 

[NWQRabbit]

Good call, why the NRL and Venues NSW doesn't offer reciprocal games at these big venues for clubs playing at their stadiums remains a mystery! Potentially turns a 30k crowd into a 45k or 50k one

We used to have it when 4 to 5 clubs games played at accor, but now that is only between souths and dogs.

I'm not advocating to give these games away for free to members but there should be an option to add these games for the normal discounted rate you get as a member.

It might make it easier for the government to swallow if you can show that even though there is less games at accor, the remaining will be more high value games.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Optus stadium has been a huge boost to WA sports and event tourism. But even with that level of usage for these events it wouldn't have been justified if there wasn't 24 games a year of AFL there drawing 40k crowds and cricket as well.

Sydney has two large rectangular stadiums. One brand new. The other needed redevelopment. But when the NSW govt wanted to do it NRL opposed it and asked for suburban spending instead. That's on NRL.
Brisbane has a large rectangular stadium, it could do with a bigger one but hard to justify given Suncorp still has lots of shelf life.
No other city can really justify one until NRL becomes much more popular for attending and there's 2 NRL clubs in that city to use it.

Accor isn't a rectangle, so no the largest rectangular stadium in Sydney is Allianz, 40k pathetic.

Brisbane is about to get an oval as its biggest stadium, pathetic.

Melbourne, city of 5M people, only rectangular ground 30k, pathetic

 

[T-Boon]

The ultimate sports / tourism goal should be the soccer world cup of course. That probably would bring in twice the interest the Olympics brings in. Get Stadium Australia and the whole precinct out there at Homebush up to standard.

 

[Desert Qlder]

Sorry mate, I don’t understand what you’re posting here.

I’m saying the LNP are handing over publicity owned assets for their shonky real estate developer donors. Who will in turn build shitty real estate developments marketed with terms like ‘green space’.

A monopoly has already been given for the Gabba redevelopment.

The Olympics has turned into a massive swindle for the LNP.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

3 stadiums for 3 NRL teams.

Great.

Yes it is. Hopefully clubs playing in sub par facilities get the message.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

The Gabba was completed in 2005.

Just pointing out facts.

Derp. The gabba is 130 years old.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Great to see the tears in here. Keep it up, that'll get the stadiums you want built.

 

[Desert Qlder]

Derp. The gabba is 130 years old.

Since 2000, 5 new rectangular stadiums: Moore Park, Parramatta, Penrith, Brisbane.

Moore Park is 114 years old.

 

[NWQRabbit]

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Someone in the comments section is claiming that the roosters have an agreement with the government that they have priority for NRL games and only 5 other regular season games can be played there.
Sounds like BS.

【While the Rabbitohs play nine home games a year in Sydney, it is understood they would be willing to bring two more games back to the city if they were given the green light to return to Allianz Stadium.】

[However, our long term lease at Accor was based on commitments from previous governments to redevelop the Stadium. We were asked to extend the lease to base a case for investment and redevelopment. A decade on and we have it confirmed that there is no investment or redevelopment. We now want to move to a stadium in the VNSW network that has had the benefit of the millions invested (in stadiums). We would also be happy to bring more games into the VNSW network if we can move home venues. We also want a long term home – we’re happy to sign a 20 or 25 year agreement.]

 

[Red&BlackBear]

I’m saying the LNP are handing over publicity owned assets for their shonky real estate developer donors. Who will in turn build shitty real estate developments marketed with terms like ‘green space’.

A monopoly has already been given for the Gabba redevelopment.

The Olympics has turned into a massive swindle for the LNP.

It’s one of 3 potential options. A new Brisbane Entertainment Center would be state owned. A new state college would be state owned.

All 3 options have merits though. Brisbane needs a new entertainment center that is central. Boondall is an absolute rubbish place to have built it in the first place. Conversely Brisbane also needs more schools especially central ones to keep up with population rise.

Apartments are what they are. There was a genuine rental crisis not that long ago.

Your assessment of shitty developments “marketed as green space” couldn’t be further from the truth. Is West End’s West Village deemed shitty? Or Newstead Gasworks? Or Yeerongpilly Green/Tennyson Riverside? No, they’re actually thriving spaces.

If it does become a residential tower space then the Gabba site would more be akin to those spaces than say a South City on Logan Road which is just around the corner but even then South City is a successful development in its own right.

 

[NWQRabbit]

^^^ Article states they currently play 9 games in sydney, I thought it was 9 at accor and 1 at allianz, plus perth and central coast. Either way souths are using the carrot of bringing 2 extra games to sydney to help them move to allianz.

I still believe at a minimum the good friday game needs to stay at homebush to tie in with the easter show crowd and they can also develop some other blockbuster game/s at the precinct.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Moore Park is 114 years old.

Nice try. I'm not as thick as your mates though.

 

[Desert Qlder]

Nice try. I'm not as thick as your mates though.

How old's Lang Park?

 

[Jamberoo]

Latest video from Eden Park, showing the staged development plans.

Looks pretty good. Better for both rectangle sports and cricket - big enough for cricket tests now?

 

[Perth Red]

That only one club each calls Allianz and commbank home is peak rugby league. That dolphins don’t play every game at Suncorp is peak rugby league. A lack of stadiums isn’t the issue, utilisation is.

 

[jim_57]

Latest video from Eden Park, showing the staged development plans.

i assume this means the waterfront stadium idea is essentially dead? Or is there still a chance it could happen?

That doesn’t actually look too bad as far as “multi-purpose” goes. The retractable lower tier to fit an oval in means it should be decent for rectangular sports, the upper tiers of that stand maybe not so much.