Galvin v the Tigers

[BuffaloRules]

Gus Gould was the one I just couldn't get my head around. He said Galvin was the most talented teenager he'd ever seen,

Bit of a slap in the face from Gus to Brad Fittler who he coached way back then …

Funny ..I didn’t see The Galvinator playing Origin at age 18…

 

[Penrose Warrior]

Where does this rhetoric of 'Galvin and Moses bagged Marshall' keep coming from?

Is it because of the meeting between Moses and Richardson with the dossiers, which became public (presumably from Moses)?

 

[Penrose Warrior]

haha at first he was trying to woo Galvin to the club, then he was trying to get him for a good price.

To be fair, Gould has been pretty consistent in saying both of those things though.

Gould doesn't have to pay overs for players, because he's got a very well established track record of running clubs effectively and creating environments where players feel valued.

I just don't think it's his place to decide who is worth what, because it just isn't as black and white as that. Never has been, never will be.

But f**k if you're the Eels, why wouldn't you be throwing $1.2m plus at Galvin? And who can begrudge them when they're his junior club?

 

[Meth]

I think the one person who you should be zeroing in is Isaac Moses, Galvin's agent. An agent who has been deregistered. If Moses and Galvin didn't bag off Marshall in public, then you wouldn't get the social media reaction from tigers players.

Sure, two wrongs don't make a right. But all roads lead back to Isaac Moses who has past form.

oh I don’t have any interest in defending Moses at all.

 

[macnaz]

btw, I don't think I'd be zeroing in on Luai so much if he hadn't have called Galvin a bitch on social media and gone to the coach to get him dropped.

When did Luiai call him a bitch ?
Any links ?

 

[BuffaloRules]

Where does this rhetoric of 'Galvin and Moses bagged Marshall' keep coming from?

Is it because of the meeting between Moses and Richardson with the dossiers, which became public (presumably from Moses)?

Apparently Moses had a “list of 7 grievances” about Benji’s coaching of Galvin when Richo presented the contract offer and Moses told him not to bother

 

[Meth]

When did Luiai call him a bitch ?
Any links ?

The song that he selected on social media was 'bitch don't kill my vibe' by kendrick lamar. It seems more likely than not that this was selected intentionally to be directed at galvin.

 

[Meth]

Apparently Moses had a “list of 7 grievances” about Benji’s coaching of Galvin when Richo presented the contract offer and Moses told him not to bother

who leaked that?

 

[BuffaloRules]

who leaked that?

No idea …does it matter ?

 

[soc123_au]

But a dollar is a dollar right, whether you are 19 or 28? Should young players delay big paydays because it's the 'right thing to do'? (my words, not yours).

I heard a lot of 'he's not worth that' when Brown signed with the Knights, but I don't know where this idea of who is worth what comes from. It's supply and demand, on a more nuanced scale. Halves are a scarce resource in the NRL. Ones who are already (arguably) NRL class at 19, who could play for the next 15+ years, are even more scarce. So clubs, especially the desperate ones, are going to table massive deals. Halves don't grow on trees. Galvin can go to one of those, or he can take what is probably a slight pay cut to go to a contender. His call, because he's got a massive level of talent.

Everyone is welcome to dislike Galvin for his part in this, and certainly Moses who is a snake. But honestly, the idea that he's doing something that the majority of us wouldn't do, or the majority of 19 year old wunderkind halves wouldn't, just doesn't sit right with me.

No issue at all with him wanting to chase the cash, it may work for him or it may crash and burn, his life, his call.

It's more how it has been handled in a way that his Management would have been thinking he will get to sign a juicy contract and start getting paid the big bucks now instead of actually seeing out his contract first. I know that is not what was said directly, but this is the 10th sequel in the lengthy repertoire of one I Moses, we have all seen this Movie before.

 

[Meth]

No idea …does it matter ?

umm...it matters a great deal, doesn't it? If Galvin and/or his management leaked it, it's significantly different than if they presented it privately and the Tigers leaked it.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

No idea …does it matter ?

I think it does in a way, if you're continuing to have an issue with the grubby way Isaac Moses carries himself in our game. It was very, very likely to have been him. He's been proven over time to have no moral compass.

 

[BuffaloRules]

umm...it matters a great deal, doesn't it? If Galvin and/or his management leaked it, it's significantly different than if they presented it privately and the Tigers leaked it.

Not to me …I just want to know the truth …stories are leaked all the time in the NRL

Moses could be leaking it as a tactic to try to force his clients way out of the club early …

 

[ek999]

Apparently Moses had a “list of 7 grievances” about Benji’s coaching of Galvin when Richo presented the contract offer and Moses told him not to bother

I will preface this by saying we don't know what those grievances were - they could have been dumb like "I think his beard is dumb" or they could have been legitimate.

On the assumption they were legitimate, it was childish of Richardson to end the meeting and then release the statement that they did.

They have 6 months of exclusive negotiating with him. End the negotiating now but set up a meeting between Galvin and Benji and get it all in the open between the two of them. Formulate a plan to resolve these issues and have regular meetings to track how they are progressing and if things are being resolved. At the end of the season, if he still is not willing to even entertain an offer, work out a plan to release him from the final year of his contract and maybe get a talented junior from the club he is going to in a different position they need to sure up.

 

[Meth]

Moses could be leaking it as a tactic to try to force his clients way out of the club early …

Seems most likely.

Does anyone know for certain?

 

[BuffaloRules]

I will preface this by saying we don't know what those grievances were - they could have been dumb like "I think his beard is dumb" or they could have been legitimate.

On the assumption they were legitimate, it was childish of Richardson to end the meeting and then release the statement that they did.

They have 6 months of exclusive negotiating with him. End the negotiating but set up a meeting between Galvin and Benji and get it all in the open, between the two of them. Formulate a plan to resolve these issues and have regular meetings to track how they are progressing and if things are being resolved. At the end of the season, if he still is not willing to even entertain an offer, work out a plan to release him from the final year of his contract and maybe get a talented junior from the club he is going to in a different position they need to sure up.

Could the “grievances” not have been raised previously ?

 

[Crazyperpman]

Where does this rhetoric of 'Galvin and Moses bagged Marshall' keep coming from?

Is it because of the meeting between Moses and Richardson with the dossiers, which became public (presumably from Moses)?

I think its pretty well known that Chammas is closely aligned to Moses and has reported several times the coaching is the issue and even expanded this to include assistant coaches.

Not one Tigers fan believes the Galvin should not be able to leave if he chooses. The issue is the perceived agitating for early release and the criticism of the coach that picked him for first grade when no others would.

Also understand the players not wanting to play with him if they believe their coach is being unfairly criticized, but it would be good if they could stay on Insta for a while and do their talking on the field.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

Not to me …I just want to know the truth …stories are leaked all the time in the NRL

Moses could be leaking it as a tactic to try to force his clients way out of the club early …

I think this could be spot on. But far out, it is such a grubby way to go about it.

The one thing I will say, even though I've defended Galvin in a way, is that he should be seeing out his contract until 2026. You signed the contract for $250k or whatever through to next year, and you knew the coach was Benji Marshall. Sometimes in life, shit happens that is not ideal or the way you planned it. There are no extenuating circumstances other than that, like family or anything else...it seems like it's purely money and environment.

This could be the perfect opportunity for the Tigers to make sure he does see out the contract. They can carry the contract in their salary cap, no issues. Send him down to NSW Cup, or even further if you like. Then he doesn't develop in your system and goes to another club short of a gallop. Rough? Not as rough as someone trying to leap out of a contract, and *allegedly* having their manager agitate for that to happen.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Seems most likely.

Does anyone know for certain?

Who leaked it ? As I have said I have no idea,,,

 

[Penrose Warrior]

Not one Tigers fan believes the Galvin should not be able to leave if he chooses.

Not one believes he should be able to leave before the end of 2026? Or do you mean when his contract is done?

I would imagine a lot of Tigers fans would happily see Galvin rot away in Ron Massey Cup