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Goodbye 2017

hazzbeen

Bench
Messages
4,617
The players, coach failed the club when all they had to do was beat the team placed 12th on the table..

simply not good enough and based on that you can't take the same players, coach into next year and expect a different result irrespective of Hunts and Grahams arrival.

Some glaring problems that won't be fixed over the pre season.

Dufty - still not quite there - way too many problems in his game still that CANT BE FIXED DURING PRE SEASON
Mciness - too limited in attack great defender and passer - thats it can't play 80 min any longer
Nightingale - too slow
Right Centre - Need one desperately
Solutions to be considered
Sign Moylan to FB (Dugans money)
Sign Lichaa as THE twin hooker w Mciness ideal No.17 to change up temp in attack
Sign Rona or similar for wing spot
Sign Brenko Lee for Right centre - schooled Lafai yesterday

Hasler and Mcguire being sacked this week maybe Hasler does become the coach - either way need changes and not just few plenty because the mob yesterday didn't turn up and i have no confidence in the same lot turning up next year....

Use our cap and sign the players we need to become a top 4 team!
On Mcinnes very disappointed with his attacking game which is really non existent . Dont know if its a coach thing or not , but he gives us absolutely nothing in attack . We are so predictable with our attack anyway , so by not having a 9 that can attack and set something up out of nothing is a big set back ... Very bad year overall ....
 

possm

Coach
Messages
16,004
The players, coach failed the club when all they had to do was beat the team placed 12th on the table..

simply not good enough and based on that you can't take the same players, coach into next year and expect a different result irrespective of Hunts and Grahams arrival.

Some glaring problems that won't be fixed over the pre season.

Dufty - still not quite there - way too many problems in his game still that CANT BE FIXED DURING PRE SEASON
Mciness - too limited in attack great defender and passer - thats it can't play 80 min any longer
Nightingale - too slow
Right Centre - Need one desperately
Solutions to be considered
Sign Moylan to FB (Dugans money)
Sign Lichaa as THE twin hooker w Mciness ideal No.17 to change up temp in attack
Sign Rona or similar for wing spot
Sign Brenko Lee for Right centre - schooled Lafai yesterday

Hasler and Mcguire being sacked this week maybe Hasler does become the coach - either way need changes and not just few plenty because the mob yesterday didn't turn up and i have no confidence in the same lot turning up next year....

Use our cap and sign the players we need to become a top 4 team!
Sorry mate, it's the coaching staff and they have failed again. This time it should be goodbye. Find a sponor to cover the payout and 1m for Hasler.

I feel sure we don't have cap space to go on that spending speree. It's time to use the juniors Millward signed to fill the gaps:

Moylan staying at the Panthers.
Mann to left wing.
Rona to right centre using Dugan's salary.
Right wing to be filled with a local junior - maybe Lomax.
Robson on the bench in the hooker rotation with McInnes.
 
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blacksafake

First Grade
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9,687
Whether people like it or not it has to come back to the coach.
It's ok to say the players never stood up & it is probably a fair statement,However the coach is responsible to have them ready for such important games or fix it if it continues.
Yesterday for example he could have made some minor changes even for a short time during the game to rectify things which imo were.
Dufty wasn't interested in running the ball back so he could have moved Dugan there with Mann to centre & McCrone on.
McCrone on for Mann, McInnes or even McDonald.
Sele should have been introduced earlier to give DeBelin,Friz or Vaughan a break as it was obvious they were gassed.
DeBelin was heavily strapped which probably accounted for his lack of mobility.
Friz for some reason was used differently to what he has recently & at times he was struggling.
Vaughan could hardly lift his legs up when that imposter Tolman scored.
Anyway we have another 2 years of this to look forward to.
 

2010

Bench
Messages
3,490
It has been obvious that some players have been playing injured. I could not get over the strapping of JDB. Vaughan was obviously injured and Frizzel is still carrying an injury.
I think that Dufty was playing under the coaches orders. I don't think he was used as an attacking weapon. It was just catch and pass.
The problem next year is our wingers. Love Nighty but his time is fast approaching.
We need wingers with speed. Full Stop.
The centers are another problem, Lafaii is a class player but he doesn't get enough of the ball. Aitken for all his faults would be picked, however, his form needs to be monitored.
The handling of the bench was terrible this year and I don't think it wil change next year.
I still love my dragons and can't wait till next season.
 

grouch

First Grade
Messages
8,393
It has been obvious that some players have been playing injured. I could not get over the strapping of JDB. Vaughan was obviously injured and Frizzel is still carrying an injury..
Every club faces this - it's a long, hard season in the toughest sport there is. The Dogs were down to 1 player on the bench yesterday! This excuse doesn't hold water.

It's the coach and the people appointing him
 

JDHD

Juniors
Messages
1,082
Our edges were an absolute liability all year. We have the best forward pack in the comp and a top tier five eighth, but we conceded that many god damn tries from players rushing up and jamming in...we need two big, fast wingers who have half a brain in defence like we need oxygen.
 

FlameThrower

Bench
Messages
3,557
Our edges were an absolute liability all year. We have the best forward pack in the comp and a top tier five eighth, but we conceded that many god damn tries from players rushing up and jamming in...we need two big, fast wingers who have half a brain in defence like we need oxygen.
Agree 100% we have concrete filled shoes...slow to turn, slow off the mark and heart in mouth stuff every time we get near the sidelines..there is nobody that can match the speed demons of other Clubs..
 

blacksafake

First Grade
Messages
9,687
I've heard people on radio saying how disappointed they are for McGregor after the loss because in their own words"he is a good bloke who loves the dragons"
So f**king what what about us fans who spend their hard earned,love the dragons & then have to put up with whats been dished up for the last 7 years.Hey you fools the man is not an nrl level coach so stop feeling sorry for him & hold him accountable for the way the team has been playing & their lack of success.
Rant over.
 

FlameThrower

Bench
Messages
3,557
It has been obvious that some players have been playing injured. I could not get over the strapping of JDB. Vaughan was obviously injured and Frizzel is still carrying an injury.
I think that Dufty was playing under the coaches orders. I don't think he was used as an attacking weapon. It was just catch and pass.
The problem next year is our wingers. Love Nighty but his time is fast approaching.
We need wingers with speed. Full Stop.
The centers are another problem, Lafaii is a class player but he doesn't get enough of the ball. Aitken for all his faults would be picked, however, his form needs to be monitored.
The handling of the bench was terrible this year and I don't think it wil change next year.
I still love my dragons and can't wait till next season.
Our Forwards ended limping into September as this power game can't be sustained. If only we had Host/Laurie and Luciano being rotated thru the season.. and actually USED the full bench rotation- we may have had a better finish.
It's all academic now..I'm sure the next end of season review will unearth all the worms...
 

JDHD

Juniors
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1,082
Our Forwards ended limping into September as this power game can't be sustained. If only we had Host/Laurie and Luciano being rotated thru the season.. and actually USED the full bench rotation- we may have had a better finish.
It's all academic now..I'm sure the next end of season review will unearth all the worms...

I understand the logic of having a bench utility, Dugan and Aitken went down that many god damn times it was embarrassing, but now Dugan's gone, we have no more excuses. We need four forwards on the bench to help manage the workload. A bench of Sims, Lawrie, Host and Ah Mau would be ideal for next year.
 

possm

Coach
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16,004
Our edges were an absolute liability all year. We have the best forward pack in the comp and a top tier five eighth, but we conceded that many god damn tries from players rushing up and jamming in...we need two big, fast wingers who have half a brain in defence like we need oxygen.
Our formation and style in defence is wrong. Our line speed in defence is poor. Our backline needs to man up and our forwards especially our lock should be coving any leaks in defence. Our full back should be reading the play, barking orders to close gaps and moving in line with the traffic just in case there is a line break. Our markers defence and our tackler's speed getting back on side is poor.
 

Dragon66

Juniors
Messages
640
The Rub Down - Dragons vs. Bulldogs
September 4, 2017 - 7:50 PM

Match Recap: The Dragons were playing for their season while the Bulldogs wanted to send their departing players out with a win tonight. The thought of another week of football didn't seem to interest the Dragons, though, as they played one of their poorer matches of the year in a 26-20 defeat.

Bulldogs cult hero, Josh Reynolds, had a dream start to the game going over after five minutes. He found himself at the end of a Brenko Lee grubber to give the Dogs an early 6-0 lead. Reynolds would only last another ten minutes before leaving the field with a lower leg injury.

After nervously navigating the first 13 minutes, Tariq Sims made the most of a sloppy Will Hopoate bomb defusal to collect the football and send Joel Thompson under the posts to level up the scores.

It looked like the Dragons needed a compass at times. When they did have the ball, they were directionless and no chance of scoring. The worst scoring team in the competition, on the other hand, were throwing the ball around and playing enterprising football.

Hopoate ended a brilliant dart down the left by Chase Stanley to give the Bulldogs a 10-6 lead before he was involved only minutes later on the other side of the field, putting Lee over a go ahead 14-6.

The Dragons did manage a try shortly before half time, but based on the 40 minutes, it's surprising they had enough sense of direction to find the sheds at half time.

After attacking the line but failing to get a kick away time-and-time again in the first ten minutes after half time, the Bulldogs let the Dragons march up the field and take an 18-14 lead.

After Gareth Widdop slotted a penalty goal it looked as though the wheels had fallen off the Bulldogs and without something special, they weren't a chance at coming back.

Just as well Hopoate decided to play on Sundays.

He made the run and threw a miraculous pass to Aiden Tolman to bring the scores level with 15 minutes to play. With their tails up, the Dogs then found the line again giving the Dragons six minutes to score six points and save their season.

The Red V threw everything at the Dogs but couldn't crack the line they were forced to make plans for a quick dash to the $2 shop for tomorrow's Mad Monday costumes as the final siren sounded.



Stat of the Night: 26 points (Bulldogs)

More often than not, 20 points against the Bulldogs would be more than enough to secure a win, but not today.

Averaging a league-worst 14.5 points per game, the Bulldogs were made to look like they possessed a formidable attack as they were allowed to offload the ball and find plenty of space out wide.

The Dragons were poor behind the ruck in particular. Michael Lichaa found 71 metres from his seven runs out of dummy half, scoring the match-winner in the process.



Man of the Match: Will Hopoate

The Bulldogs wouldn't have been in this one without Hopoate tonight. In the moments it looked like Canterbury would drop their head and allow the Dragons to run away, Hopoate provided the spark.

He played a role in three tries while also pulling off an incredible try-saver to be the best on their park today.

Tomorrow's Headline: *Bulldogs end two seasons in one day*

Jason Oliver - @JasonNRL

Spot on recap of a lack lustre season (except for the first eight weeks). Only one person to blame for this dismal display. - The Coach who is hopeless.
 

JACK V

Juniors
Messages
12
NO the coach is not blameless but the players have a job to do and they failed...no intensity, no go forward, no desperation.

JDB was like a lamb on the field - not once did he turn up the heat to his fellow forwards, Widdop, Mann, Mcdonalfd, Dufty, Dugan were disgraceful!! thats not the coaches fault - its the players mental preparation to the game...they shit themselves and they failed! Im totally pissed off and the majority of the same lot cannot go around next year! no f**king way
 

JACK V

Juniors
Messages
12
The players, coach failed the club when all they had to do was beat the team placed 12th on the table..

simply not good enough and based on that you can't take the same players, coach into next year and expect a different result irrespective of Hunts and Grahams arrival.

Some glaring problems that won't be fixed over the pre season.

Dufty - still not quite there - way too many problems in his game still that CANT BE FIXED DURING PRE SEASON
Mciness - too limited in attack great defender and passer - thats it can't play 80 min any longer
Nightingale - too slow
Right Centre - Need one desperately
Solutions to be considered
Sign Moylan to FB (Dugans money)
Sign Lichaa as THE twin hooker w Mciness ideal No.17 to change up temp in attack
Sign Rona or similar for wing spot
Sign Brenko Lee for Right centre - schooled Lafai yesterday

Hasler and Mcguire being sacked this week maybe Hasler does become the coach - either way need changes and not just few plenty because the mob yesterday didn't turn up and i have no confidence in the same lot turning up next year....

Use our cap and sign the players we need to become a top 4 team!
gotta agree with you Mickey .
i thought Dugan Laffai Mcdonald Mann were crap today .JDB saved his worst for last .
So many things to improve in this club .
 

JACK V

Juniors
Messages
12
Sorry mate, it's the coaching staff and they have failed again. This time it should be goodbye. Find a sponor to cover the payout and 1m for Hasler.

I feel sure we don't have cap space to go on that spending speree. It's time to use the juniors Millward signed to fill the gaps:

Moylan staying at the Panthers.
Mann to left wing.
Rona to right centre using Dugan's salary.
Right wing to be filled with a local junior - maybe Lomax.
Robson on the bench in the hooker rotation with McInnes.
hasler over structured and killed the dogs . They will get better without him.
We need coaching and management overhall big time . but pleeeeez no hasler
 

Crush

Coach
Messages
11,455
I want to know if we're still catching 'Crushes' bus to Manly.
I've got my incontenient pads packed and my dribble bib on...... sure hope we're still going!
Sorry boys, about the coach.... I thought we had a coach to take us to Manly but it didn't work out.
Ahhh well, maybe next year we can get a coach to take us out to the finals?
 

grouch

First Grade
Messages
8,393
Sorry boys, about the coach.... I thought we had a coach to take us to Manly but it didn't work out.
Ahhh well, maybe next year we can get a coach to take us out to the finals?
Pleased that you now agree that McGregor is a shit coach
 

DUB888

Juniors
Messages
377
Sorry boys, about the coach.... I thought we had a coach to take us to Manly but it didn't work out.
Ahhh well, maybe next year we can get a coach to take us out to the finals?
I hope we can get a coach to get us IN the finals!
 

Mr Red

First Grade
Messages
6,193
When Will hopoate looks like a world beater you know you really are rubbish....

What ever happened to the performance commitee which was formed earlier in the season??? Surely there were about 20 times this season where they should have stepped in??
Toothless tigers...
 

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