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Guilty Pleasures

LESStar58

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The Goonies, i have seen this moving around 200 times and everytime it is on the telly i have to sit and watch it yet again.

For children of the late 70s and 80s Goonies is a staple of cinema.

Saw it with a double header with Caddyshack at the Astor in Melbourne about ten years ago. Not afraid to admit my eyes welled up at the end. Love that movie to bits.

My guilty pleasure has to be Streets of Fire. Little known cult hit starring a young Dianne Lane, Rick Moranis and Willem Defoe as a biker in a pair of ridiculous leather overalls.

The dialogue is god awful and the lead Michael Pare (from Eddie and The Cruisers) has trouble walking down the street convincingly but the soundtrack kicks arse.
 

mongoose

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any one of Nolan's Batman films, I must have watched one a day for the last 2 weeks i've been on holidays. dark knight rises didn't quite do it for me on first viewing but i just can't see it enough at the moment.

might explain why i find my self saying "i'm gotham's reckoning!" or "it would be extremely painful...for you..." over and over again to myself in my best tom hardy/bane imitation. should be a fun day back at work tomorrow lol

Why would you feel guilty for liking the Nolan batman movies?, they're critically acclaimed and the Dark Knight is considered one of the greatest films of all time.

Now if you said Batman & Robin (with doctor freeze) or Batman Forvever then that would be a guilty pleasure.
 

Abz

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Late 80s-Mid 90s B-Grade American cop/martial arts/action films. I don't know why I like them so much. Probably reminds me of my younger days watching action movies before turning 15 (M15+ lol).
 

Misanthrope

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For children of the late 70s and 80s Goonies is a staple of cinema.

I loved The Goonies so much that I went to Astoria in Oregon when I was in the United States just to visit the Goonies house.
 

Amadaca

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Why would you feel guilty for liking the Nolan batman movies?, they're critically acclaimed and the Dark Knight is considered one of the greatest films of all time.

Now if you said Batman & Robin (with doctor freeze) or Batman Forvever then that would be a guilty pleasure.

Oh, please! Damn good movie (the only one of Nolan's three worth seeing), but, "one of the greatest movies of all-time!?" Come on, mate.

I would definitely say its one of the greatest super hero films ever made --- but that's as much to do with me absolutely despising most comic book movies as it is with the quality of this particular film.

I really take strong exception to Nolan's approach to Batman as a whole, however. Butchering two of the biggest icons in the Batman Universe (Gotham City & the Batmobile) did not sit well with me, to put it lightly.
 

Springs

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Oh, please! Damn good movie (the only one of Nolan's three worth seeing), but, "one of the greatest movies of all-time!?" Come on, mate.

I would definitely say its one of the greatest super hero films ever made --- but that's as much to do with me absolutely despising most comic book movies as it is with the quality of this particular film.

I really take strong exception to Nolan's approach to Batman as a whole, however. Butchering two of the biggest icons in the Batman Universe (Gotham City & the Batmobile) did not sit well with me, to put it lightly.

The batmobile was quite similar to the one used in The Dark Knight Returns. I don't see how it was butchered at all.

And yes, The Dark Knight was #15 on Empire's Top 500 and is in the Top 20 at IMDB.
 

Amadaca

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IMDB? Really, you're gonna use that? Are you not aware how their lists are formed?

Its a very good film but it quite arguably isn't even the best Batman movie made, let alone unequivocally one of the greatest movies ever.

In what sort of company would you put it? Name me your idea of some of the other greatest films ever made.
 
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Springs

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Of course I am. And oh look at that, the vast majority of their Top 250 deserve their spots. The Top 20? Shawshank, Godfather 1 & II, Schindler's List, The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, Seven Samurai, Pulp Fiction, 12 Angry Men, The Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Goodfellas, Forrest Gump aka the films usually considered as the greatest ever. Now I think the Dark Knight is a little overrated in the list but I think it would deserve a spot in the top 50. It's one of my favourite movies and definitely very close to the greatest action movie ever. I usually judge if I should watch a movie through a combination of critic and user scores.

What do you use to judge the greatest films ever? And why don't you take IMDB into account?

And oh yes, it is quite easily the best Batman movie made. Apart from the animated series it's the best batman account put on screen.
 

Amadaca

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I dont have a problem with it being Top 50...to me, when you say, "one of the best ever," I think top 10-20 films of all-time, so my response was in that context. I completely disregard public perception personally --- just too unreliable, & that goes double for die-hard Nolan fans (remember the TDKR fan controversy? Ugly, ugly stuff), on commercial popularity I've just seen too many great films spurned, & too many duds be embraced (but enough about Adam Sandler).

This is strictly opinion, but I thought Tim Burton's stabs at Batman (especially the first) were certainly in the realm of, & quite arguably superior to, The Dark Knight --- but let me stress that, unlike some others, I deeply reject Nolan's portrayal of the Batman Universe, & while I think Bale makes an excellent Bruce Wayne, his Batman (which is what people want to see most) was not so hot. Couldn't forgive the absurdity of that voice.

On that note, Tom Hardy also lost points heavily with me for a ludicrous voice act, however I felt his body language-oriented performance was of such a high standard that he overcame that to score highly (unlike Bale).

All that said, the film has objective flaws too, with the last act losing ground. Still an excellent film, but on the whole the love-in for it is a little much.
 

Springs

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It's very very rare that a dud will be embraced on IMDB. I would put The Dark Knight in the top 10-20. I think I listed it 8th in my top 15 in LU's favourite movies thread a few months ago.

I didn't really like the bat-voice either, but it doesn't take away from the movie. I found Tim Burton's attempts to be too well, Burtonesque. All the weird gothic type scenery and fantastically dark elements typical of a Burton film took some of the fun out of it.

Nolan's universe was fine up until the third one where he seemed to completely contradict the themes of the first two. Bane was a good character, but he was Bane in name only. Had nothing similar at all to the actual Bane.

The last act losing ground is a subjective flaw.

And die-hard Nolan fans are among the worst movie fans I've encountered. The Dark Knight Rises was good entertainment but mediocre as a movie and logic went out the window completely. It should be rated no higher than 7.5. The Dark Knight and Inception are rated too highly as well but at least they are good movies.
 

Springs

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And considering all the hundreds of thousands of movies released, being in the Top 50 would definitely qualify a movie for 'one of the greatest ever'
 

Knightmare

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Harold and Kumar escape from Guantanamo Bay. Wrong on many levels, but it still cracks me up every time I see it!
 

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