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Hagan scraping the barrel at Eels

lucablight

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Hagan scraping the barrel at Eels

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Brad Walter
November 11, 2006
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PARRAMATTA have opened talks to extend the contract of NSW Origin star Timana Tahu, with incoming coach Michael Hagan indicating the club's emphasis next season was likely to be on retention rather than recruitment.

As the Eels trained for the first time under Hagan yesterday, Brett Finch, Ian Hindmarsh and Todd Lowrie were the only new faces of note - despite the club's loss of a host of experienced players.

Among those joining other NRL clubs are five-eighth John Morris (Wests Tigers), fullback Wade McKinnon (Warriors), second-rower Dean Widders and halfback Jeremy Smith (South Sydney), and centre Brett Delaney and winger Matt Petersen (Gold Coast), while prop Michael Vella (Hull KR) and lock Glenn Morrison (Bradford) are headed to Super League.

But Hagan said the salary cap made it hard for clubs to recruit big-name players, particularly in the wake of the Titans' joining the premiership next season and competition from Europe.

"In the Gold Coast and Souths, you had two football teams that were very aggressive in the market place and there are a lot of players going to the UK and earning a lot of money, so we're competing with a lot of forces at the moment, and the salary cap, while it has shifted a little bit, it hasn't really shifted too far," Hagan said.

"Because of that, the spread of talent is going to be a bit thin and I guess the pressure to keep your best roster is pretty difficult. But I am pretty excited by the roster that is here, and the fact that there are a few young players who are under the radar that I would expect to come into first grade and play pretty well for us."

Parramatta have won the premier league competition for the past two years, and Hagan will look to some of those players to step up, but he also needs big seasons from the likes of Tahu and Finch if the Eels are to be successful.

Asked yesterday if his hooking days were over after being shifted into the front row last season by axed Sydney Roosters coach Ricky Stuart, Finch said: "I hope so."

With Tim Smith the first-choice halfback, Finch has been promised the five-eighth jersey, and Hagan said he intended retaining Tahu in the centres after he had previously played him on the wing at Newcastle.

"I met with all of the players last week and I've got a fair idea of what their expectations are, and I think that Timana wants to establish himself as an outright centre in the game," Hagan said.

"I guess even at rep level he's probably been picked on the wing a little bit, so I'm more than happy to try and help him along that path. We're looking to try and extend his deal so hopefully that can be sorted out."

The Knights' connection at Parramatta, which also includes Finch, Lowrie and fullback Luke Burt, extends to assistant coach David Fairleigh and premier league mentor Rip Taylor, who form part of a far bigger off-field staff than Hagan ever had at Newcastle.

"There's a cost attached to all of those things - to having the best people and having them on staff full-time - and I think the resources have certainly been very good here for a long time," Hagan said. "I'm fortunate that I've inherited a good football team and a very good set-up. It's something that I am grateful for and I'm looking forward to working with all of those people."

source: http://www.smh.com.au/news/league/hagan-scraping-the-barrel-at-eels/2006/11/10/1162661897411.html
 

caylo

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at least he has come out and the players know where they expect to play, none of this make-shift crap. tahu, and timmy would both prob be talk 2 to extend deals, with all the $$ we have, mabey increase pay this year to cover other years. id say the only real options left 4 the team would be and outside back (wing, fullback), 2 props, (cordoba, Cannings, Tsulous), backrower (prob mateo, mabey taia). other than that we have a picked team, and as long as they perform they will hold those positions, but if they don't, there are players waiting in the wings to take their spots. finch would have been promised 1st shot at 5-8, if he dont perform cya later we have green, mateo and a host of other players to fill that void, but ill give finchy benifit of the doubt 4 now anyway :D
 

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I think Timmy has to show his wares on the paddock first to earn the extension of the deal. Put last year behind him and recapture his potential, otherwise Finch is there and more than able to step into a longer term 7 role.

I really hope Timmy does it, but this year's situations haven't left me too confident. And unless Timmy steps up to what he can do on a weekly basis, I'd almost rather have Finch if it came down to a choice for 7, with someone else who develops further (eg Green, Mateo?) coming up as a future 6.
 

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bartman said:
I think Timmy has to show his wares on the paddock first to earn the extension of the deal. Put last year behind him and recapture his potential, otherwise Finch is there and more than able to step into a longer term 7 role.

I really hope Timmy does it, but this year's situations haven't left me too confident. And unless Timmy steps up to what he can do on a weekly basis, I'd almost rather have Finch if it came down to a choice for 7, with someone else who develops further (eg Green, Mateo?) coming up as a future 6.

Agree Bartman. At least next year Timmy won't have the pressure to create plays like he did this year. With Finchy and (hopefully) Mateo on the paddock with Timmy, they will have a wealth of money balls between them.
 

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"In the Gold Coast and Souths, you had two football teams that were very aggressive in the market place and there are a lot of players going to the UK and earning a lot of money, so we're competing with a lot of forces at the moment, and the salary cap, while it has shifted a little bit, it hasn't really shifted too far," Hagan said.

"Because of that, the spread of talent is going to be a bit thin and I guess the pressure to keep your best roster is pretty difficult. But I am pretty excited by the roster that is here, and the fact that there are a few young players who are under the radar that I would expect to come into first grade and play pretty well for us."

This is a good sign, all the younger players will feel like they have a future here if they put in the effort. Awesome news ... can't wait for the pre-season trial games ...
 

btaag

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Without a game being played or any real feedback, I am cautiously optimistic by what I have read and seen. I always thought a players coach like Hagen might work wonders for Parra after Smiths school teacher-style, and I think he could get the best out of the kids from Premmies and the veterans in first grade. I hope that we play more instinctively.
I cant wait for next season.
 

Kurt Angle

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A club that wins the Premier League title the previous year shouldn't be worrying about depth.
 

The Engineers Room

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Kurt Angle said:
A club that wins the Premier League title the previous year shouldn't be worrying about depth.

I agree but we have had a lot of players leave and that does include junior talent. Also, we seem to have a lot of injuries the last few years.
 

Kurt Angle

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We may have lost a lot but we have replaced all with guys ready to make first grade or bought in. The replacement names I'm mentioning weren't in the picture at the start of 2006 remember. Guys like Hayne are guys found out liast year factored into being 2007 starters.

John Morris - Finch
Wade McKinnon - Reddy
Dean Widders - Ian Hindmarsh
Jeremy Smith
Brett Delaney - Smith
Matt Petersen - Hayne
Michael Vella - Cordoba
Glenn Morrison
 

caylo

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to be honest i think hayne may be our fullback... :D just get him to hit the line hard when runnign ti back
 

Pazza

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1.Hayne
2.Inu
3.Smith
4.Tahu
5.Grothe

6.Finch
7.Smith

8.Cayless
9.Riddell
10.Moi Moi
11.Hindmarsh
12.Robinson
13.Hindmarsh

14.Marsh
15.Mateo
16.Cordoba
17.Tsoulos

Nuff Said
 

caylo

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pazza i have to agree, exept i realy want marsh to start and play a the full 80, i just prefer him there. i don't know where that leaves Riddell though. And if fa'asso signs then id have him in the backrow instead of ian. Other than Ian id say wagon is a chance with his good late season form
 

ParraMatt

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I'm very pleased with what hagan has said there, I'm really looking forward to next season, especially alot of the Premier League players stepping up to help the existing and new players in the first grade line up.
 

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