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Harmer on Hoppa

Was Hoppa treated fairly?

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CC_Eagle

First Grade
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This is the last I'll mention about the subject....

Demonising Hoppa's become an ugly ritual

By WENDY HARMER

June 21, 2004

The NRL's treatment of John Hopoate is unfair and heavy-handed considering the other problems in rugby league, argues WENDY HARMER.


THE NRL should be down on their knees thanking the Good Lord for John Hopoate. After a season of turmoil – allegations of group rape, obscene phone calls, brawls at nightclubs and casinos – they've finally nailed someone!

What a pity John didn't save his on-field aggression and call a strange woman in the middle of the night, suggest group sex and call her a foul four letter name? Why didn't he just break someone's nose? Take performance-enhancing or recreational drugs? Why didn't he go out and get roaring drunk, get into a stoush in public and resist arrest by the police? Or call a press conference and infer that the referee was biased? Or indeed do something that would bring the entire game into disrepute?


Because if he'd done any of these things he would have at best copped a fine and at worst been out for one game and happily playing out the rest of the season. Now you might know that I'm a Manly fan – and a Manly fan with a chip on both shoulders is someone who has a balanced personality.


But folks, there are times when a double standard is so glaringly obvious that we Manly fans have to stand up to the rest of you and say, "Fair go".


Hoppa does have a fiery temperament on field – OK, he's a big mouth but why does name-calling cop a nine-week suspension and a sickening head-high tackle doesn't?


Hoppa-baiting has now become a favourite pastime for rival fans and players.


Everyone loves a villain. But when the referees are engaging in the same pastime it's not fair!


Tune in to the ref's call of the game and you will hear, "Watch Hoppa, he's trouble", as soon as he steps on the field.


All through the game it's, "Watch Hoppa, watch Hoppa", chanted like a mantra for 80 minutes.


Even Gus Gould recently commented on telly that Hoppa was unfairly and routinely penalised. And you wonder why Hoppa gets upset? He got sin-binned for saying: "Is that why you're referee, cos you can't play the game?"


If that's the worst a referee's ever heard, I'd be staggered.


You don't have to be a lip reader to decipher the four letter words which rain down on them – even during State of Origin when our finest players are on show in front of millions.


I, and every other Manly fan, noted with interest that former referee Bill Harrigan was interviewed extensively about John's career. Hello? Former referee? Do you see me getting up and having a spray about what's on breakfast radio these days?


By the way Bill, nowhere did you preface your remarks with speaking as a person employed by the Sydney Roosters. Come on Bill, we know you don't like Hoppa – we've all read your book. In this latest incident, after being told to shut it by someone in the tunnel, Hoppa bit back and it wasn't pleasant.


But he said he did not realise that this bloke, Darren Alchin, dressed in a tracksuit, was an interchange official.


Our football manager Peter Peters told the judiciary: "There are people in tunnels and dressing rooms in a variety of tracksuits and [players] wouldn't know who they were." Good point.


If this is shocking behaviour, let's apply it to all clubs. Every tunnel must have video monitors and microphones and all officials should wear gear which clearly identifies them.


No one can defend the famous finger-poking incident when Hoppa played for Wests Tigers, but Hoppa took the entire blame and did his time. From what I understand, everyone in the squad knew what was going on and cheered him on. (Curiously, if it was such a heinous crime, why didn't any player on the receiving end of this treatment give him a belting?) He has paid a bigger price for this than anyone could possibly imagine.


JOHN Hopoate has done nothing on the footy field which would have seen him charged in civil court. And yet his reputation – a man's most prized possession – is in ruins.


Not every player who pulls on a boot, or steps into a sporting arena, has to be a role model.


Some of the names which have made this game great have been rough blokes with flawed personalities. If you take them all out we'll be left with a hollow replica of the real thing.


If John Hopoate serves his time there should be nothing which prevents him from playing out his career with Manly.


The NRL and media have to have a better reason for depriving a man of his livelihood and passion merely because they are sick of him.


This would be a miscarriage of natural justice.


Wendy Harmer is a retired radio broadcaster and Sea Eagles tragic
 

Langers

Juniors
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Players mouthing off is hardly rare. On 2GB last Sunday they were commentating the Sharks-Penrith game and I clearly heard Danny Nutley telling Tony Archer to f**k off when Archer told him he had to leave the field to get blood wiped off his jersey. Hopoate is just an easy scapegoat to use, refs hate him and would probably report him for sneezing.
 

hop

Juniors
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when you do something as f***ed up as what he did for wests u can expect to be on probation for life...
he made his own bed...
 

Razor

Coach
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He is treated very unfairly. Players abuse referees all the time. Tallis called a ref a "f**king cheat" and clearly heard on national television, wasn't punished at all. Hopoate said nothing as bad as that. As Spider Everett said on 110% TS, he said it's a total joke that he was suspended for that (he didn't dispute the 1 week for fighting though)
 

851

Bench
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Harmer on Hoppa,I don't wan't to see that.That should definately be banned for life. :lol:
 

Grantwhy

Juniors
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Razor said:
He is treated very unfairly. Players abuse referees all the time. Tallis called a ref a "f***ing cheat" and clearly heard on national television, wasn't punished at all. Hopoate said nothing as bad as that. As Spider Everett said on 110% TS, he said it's a total joke that he was suspended for that (he didn't dispute the 1 week for fighting though)

Not punished? Wasn't he sent off in a ARL controlled game?

Hoppa physically threatened a Match Official.

That is (unfortunately for Manly) a whole new level.

If he had actually touched him/thrown a punch then it wouldn't of been 8 weeks - it would of been forever.


for those that missed it - Hoppa didn't just swear - he threatened violence (and i suspecte he was quite convincing in that).

It was NOT the swearing that got Hoppa the 8 weeks - IT WAS THE THREAT!

:?

Could people stop bringing up 'players swearing at officials' incidents and start bringing up 'players threatening officials' incidents to compare with Hoppa's suspension :idea:
 
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There's a difference between swearing, venting frustration and threatening someone.

Regardless of the issue, I think one point to be made is, who gives a f**k what Wendy Harmer thinks? I certainly dont.
 

Raider Ultra

Bench
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He threatened an official! For f*cks sake, stop whinging for the sake of it. You wonder why there is a sever lack of officials at every level of sport, mainly because of people like you that condone threatening officials. By the way that article was a pile of biased dross, the fact you spent the time to post it here says it all.
 

Glenn

First Grade
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Actually got very lightly considering his past and now threatening a official, can consider himself lucky it wasnt 15 weeks
 

Parraren

Bench
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Harmer defending Hoppa :roll: Isn't she employed by Manly? No bias in that article :roll:

He didn't JUST swear at an official he THREATENED an official with physical violence. There is a BIG difference. How many chances do we need to give this fool. He's a goose. I'm not saying he should be thrown out of the game but the NRL has to make it very clear that threatening match officials is just not on and won't be tolerated. Sorry, but he got what he deserved.
 

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