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Hayne Contemplates NFL Switch

Misanthrope

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Read this on the SMH today and thought I'd share it here. What do the enlightened minds make of this? Would he stand a chance?

Jarryd Hayne has revealed a hidden desire to play American football, leaving the door slightly ajar for an unlikely code switch after undertaking secret gridiron sessions in the off-season.


Hayne, who is off contract at the end of next year, spent two training sessions with the UTS American football team in October, making inquiries into potential pathways to crack the National Football League in the US.


At Hayne's request, Gridiron Australia officials explored opportunities in the US for an open trial at an NFL franchise, but Hayne's World Cup commitments with the Kangaroos prohibited him from pursuing his American dream.
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Stateside: Jarryd Hayne with Parramatta teammates Tim Mannah and Joseph Paulo at a Dallas Cowboys game. Photo: Instagram


"I've definitely thought about it for sure," Hayne said. "I've had a couple of sessions with UTS and it's something that excites me. I actually spoke to Reggie Bush in depth about it when he was over here. We were talking about different plays, what Detroit was like, what Miami was like and New Orleans was like. It interests me.


"For me, life's always about a challenge. Playing Origin is a huge challenge and beating Queensland is obviously a huge challenge. Bringing Parramatta back up from the bottom of the ladder is another challenge. What lies beyond that I'm not too sure. As long as I'm still getting challenged in league, then I'll be here."


UTS Gridiron president and Gridiron Australia director Matt Steel helped set up Hayne's sessions in the off-season.


Hayne trained as a wide receiver in his first session and as a safety in the second session, showing enough promise for Gridiron Australia officials to take his request of seeking a try-out in the US seriously.


"We spoke about whether we could get him a try-out overseas," Steel said. "He said he had a strong desire to try and get over there. But he'd be giving up a lot to go over there. I think he was genuinely interested in going over. When we spoke to him, we told him we could put him in contact with some people that could open a few doors. I opened up a few doors for him after seeing what I could do but, by that stage, he had taken off to the World Cup.


"The people I spoke to were happy to put out an expression of interest to open up a few avenues for him but the World Cup took a bit of the shine off his dream."


UTS vice president and coach Matt Long admitted age was a huge factor in determining the 26-year-old's chances of making it in the sport, but believes Hayne has the ability – as long as he has the dedication – to make a fist of any opportunity he pursued in the US.



"If he was to go over and dedicate himself, I'm pretty sure he'd be able to go over there and make a really good crack at it and he'd stand a fairly good chance at being a first- or second-stringer." Long said.


"It's a hard sport to get into with some of the specific stuff because it is so specialised. But if he wanted to play NFL and someone decided to pick him up and give him the training, I think he wouldn't be out of place. If he was to go through the normal route, through high school and colleges, that would be impossible. But if he was to go over now to an NFL team and they gave him the intense training, he'd be a chance.


"He's got that natural athleticism, he's got the speed. He'd already be one of our top players in the country. He can tackle pretty well and has got a turn of speed. Playing fullback he has that eye of being able to read the field. Cornerback or the safety position where you have the over watch for all of what's happening on defence would suit him."


Former Tigers, Dragons and Roosters winger Peni Tagive is playing college football at Baylor University in Texas, while Australian Jesse Williams is heading into his second year with Super Bowl champions Seattle Seahawks after playing college football at Alabama.


While things seem to come naturally to Hayne on a rugby league field, he admits his lack of experience and his age would make the switch even more difficult.


"For me, being 26 and a different sport, it's huge," he said. "You pick up so many things when you're young and things come natural for you. It would obviously be a huge ask, but, for me, I might probably be a bit old. It's tactical. It's not one of those off-the-cuff sports like rugby league is. I was speaking to Reggie about it. It's like a game of chess and you have to make sure the move you make has got to be correct. It can't be wrong or it might jeopardise the team.


"Over here I'd go all right just withmy ability, but from a technical point of view I was just kind of going mad trying to sack the quarterback all the time when I was training. It was pretty funny but I think the quarterback was a bit filthy. Their quarterback is a University quarterback. He actually made me look silly a few times throwing a dummy."
 

Zigwaa

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Would be great to see himi play in the NFL but it's very unlikely.

He could spend four years over there and not have a single NFL game to show for it, very risky for him.
 

shiznit

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a corner or safety??

He looks too big.

If anything I'd say he would be a TE. He seems like a TE in size.

Maybe special teams... A kick returner??
 

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No chance. Too late, too old, too much work, too much risk, too many resources to get him up to speed. Better off putting the effort into an athletic 21 year old college guy who's never played football than him.
 

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:lol: Wouldnt make the Jags practise sqaud

Jesus Christ, imagine the f**king arrogance of a merkin who thinks he can just saunter over to the good ol US of A, at 28-29, and just be an NFL footballer

No team would touch him at his age, by the time they got him to a point where he could actually get on the field as a special teamer, he's 32 and nearing retirement.
 

AlwaysGreen

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:lol: Wouldnt make the Jags practise sqaud

Jesus Christ, imagine the f**king arrogance of a merkin who thinks he can just saunter over to the good ol US of A, at 28-29, and just be an NFL footballer

No team would touch him at his age, by the time they got him to a point where he could actually get on the field as a special teamer, he's 32 and nearing retirement.

Read the article. He said nothing about sauntering over there and playing the game; on the contrary he said he was too old and the technicalities of the sport were something he would struggle to overcome. He also stated that there were enough challenges ahead of him in league to keep him in the NRL.
 

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If he went at a young age and went through college I could see him making it possibly as a running back or possibly a receiver. But in this stage of life he is better off continuing as a top league player rather then throwing that away to possibly get on a practice squad sonewhere.
 

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:lol: Wouldnt make the Jags practise sqaud

Jesus Christ, imagine the f**king arrogance of a merkin who thinks he can just saunter over to the good ol US of A, at 28-29, and just be an NFL footballer

No team would touch him at his age, by the time they got him to a point where he could actually get on the field as a special teamer, he's 32 and nearing retirement.

Do you even read, bro?
 

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I think people put too much stock into how difficult it would be for someone like Hayne to get up to speed in being, say, a kick returner.

Its essentially just catching the ball then running as far as you can using your god given athletic ability. He'd be already at NFL quality for that job right now, and with 12-18 months of conditioning could probably be amazing at it.

The main problem is he is too much of an unknown risk for a league which is all about not taking any. No team would bother even giving him a trial given his age, at least not at any position that is expected to run with the ball.

Coming from left field, however, he'd probably make a hell of a punter. The NFL is much more accustomed at taking on mature age prospects for that position too.
 
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I've thought for a while that at the end of his career he could go over and earn money as a kicker.

I don't know anything about NFL though so there may be some further technicalities to that position that I'm not aware of.
 

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I think people put too much stock into how difficult it would be for someone like Hayne to get up to speed in being, say, a kick returner.

Who is just a kick returner though??

No franchise will use a roster spot for a kick returner only.

He would need to develop something else... Otherwise they would be better off using there 3rd or 4th WR/RB on the depth chart and open up a spot for another guard or tackle who are far more important.
 
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nick87

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Kick Returning isnt as simple as Danish suggests either
You've got to be able to read the field, read the blocks and read it early. Show great judgement, make the right cut at the right time, and know when to eat the ball and just take the tackle etc

if it was as easy as Danish suggests, we'd see kick return TD's in every game
 

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Who is just a kick returner though??

No franchise will use a roster spot for a kick returner only.

He would need to develop something else... Otherwise they would be better off using there 3rd or 4th WR/RB on the depth chart and open up a spot for another guard or tackle who are far more important.
There's been a few in recent times.

Guys like Josh Cribbs and Trindon Holliday were scarcely used on offensive plays. Devin Hester is currently at the Falcons and he'll barely see the field on offense.

But as Nick alluded to, it's not as easy as just catching the ball and using your God given speed to run it back every time.
 

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Detroit Lions running back Reggie Bush believes NRL superstar Jarryd Hayne would excel in the NFL, with reports emerging the NSW Blues fullback is considering a move to American football.

With revelations that Hayne participated in secret gridiron sessions with the University of Technology Sydney last year, the 2009 Super Bowl winner told Yahoo!7 Sport in an exclusive interview that Hayne "would do well" in America's biggest sport.

Knowing his contract expires at the end of 2015, Hayne spent two training sessions with the UTS American football team in October.

After the sessions, Hayne asked Gridiron Australia representatives to organise a trial at an NFL franchise.

With 2013 Rugby League World Cup commitments rolling into the 2014 NRL season, Hayne is yet to have the trial.

But asked if the Parramatta Eel would succeed in the NFL, Bush said Hayne possessed the skills to be a powerful running-back.

"I think he'd do pretty well actually," he said. "Because he's quick, he's elusive, he's powerful, he's fast, he has great vision and those are all the things you need to play running back in the NFL."

Bush said Hayne could even become a quarterback after he learned the finer points of the game.

"It's possible, yeah. Because you know when I was talking to Jarryd...I was saying how in rugby league you have to be kind of a running back, a punter and a quarter back all at the same time," he said.

"Because you're throwing the ball, kicking it (and) you're running it. So it's kind of like you have all these skills that you have to use all at once.

"It's pretty cool and pretty unique and I think definitely some of the guys (NRL players) would be able to transfer over to American football."

But could Bush play in the NRL?

"I don't know, American football is tough enough as it is," he said with a laugh.

"We wear pads, you guys (NRL players) don't wear pads, so that makes it a little bit more scary."

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/news/article/-/24400906/jarryd-hayne-would-do-well-in-nfl-reggie-bush/

Reggae thinks Hayne could even be a quarterback WOW
 

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Kick Returning isnt as simple as Danish suggests either
You've got to be able to read the field, read the blocks and read it early. Show great judgement, make the right cut at the right time, and know when to eat the ball and just take the tackle etc

if it was as easy as Danish suggests, we'd see kick return TD's in every game


Who said anything about him scoring every kick return? Most kick returns get 25-30 yards down field. The top returners managing to perhaps bring it out to an extra 5-10 yards on top of that with regularity. I'd back Hayne to be able to do match it with most kick returners in the NFL today in that regard. He wouldn't be scoring many TDs, but none of them do.

Eventually, I think he'd make good running back as well. Not the best in the league or anything like that but very capable. His footwork and agility would see to that.

He'd have much less chance moving into a receiver role and I would say any sort of defensive position would be completely beyond him.
 

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I was talking with a mate about this last night...

And he made an interesting point to me...

He thought that Konrad Hurrell would be far more likely than Hayne to succeed in the NFL.

Then I thought about it... And he actually made sense... He's explosive & powerfull... Would be a RB/FB

He could just pound it in there beast mode style.

Marshawn Lynch is 5'11 98kgs

Konnie is 6'2 100kgs
 
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I have a pretty hard time believing Hurrell is 6'2.

His Warriors profile lists him at 183cm which would be about just 6'.

I'd think Lynch would probably be a fair bit stronger than Hurrell as well. Though that said, if Hurrell had been developed by College and NFL teams for as long as Lynch then who knows.

He'd probably make a dent as a 3rd down/goal line type guy, but he doesn't really have the ability to cut, change his direction etc like the top RB's do, he's more just a battering ram.
 
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