Heartless, Gutless, Pathetic

[lsta5838]

Hi guys,

From a Panthers fan, boy, that was a tough loss. A game that should have been put away (just like Panthers against the Dogs last week).

Just a couple of points - Jarrad Hayne's intercept try. If the rules are the same as what was mandated a year or two back, the defence MUST have both feet behind the try line, otherwise, they are offside. The majority of the Eels had one foot back, one in front. So, to the letter of the law, should have been a penalty to you guys.

The Carney "no try" as he was ruled short. I could not see any evidance that it was definately a "no try" (ie I could not tell by the tape that he was definately short), so could have been a try.

You guys play excellent in some patches, but as in the Tigers game and Eels game, you have lacked the killer instinct.

Good luck for the rest of the season and my money is on Campese for Dally M (boy I wish Penrith signed him up a few seasons ago when he was out of a contract...)

 

[aussies1st]

I keep imagining how different this season would have been if barrett signed.....

We probably would have lost Campo though.

 

[Chachi]

I think you captured what I meant when I made this post Master Raider.

The fact is we've played teams who will not tilt at the title this year, and we've led comfortably twice.

We're playing with neither a soul or a spine at the moment and it's showing.

As an aside, three weeks ago I was in Canberra for the Rugby Union. I'm a Waratahs fan and they were playing the ACT, I went with a mate from Canberra and his folks. We got to the stadium and they said 'so Tim, this is what a REAL stadium looks like' (a comment which threw me, as the Waratahs play out of the SFS - but thats another story entirely), and I replied 'oh, I know it well - I'm a Raiders fan'.

They paused, looked at each other, looked at me, and his dad said 'you must be the last one of those left, surely?'

Performances like the last three are why people say that.

Don't worry mate, most Brumbies fans are wankers.

After they got hammered by the worst team in their comp and smashed by another one in South Africa we'll see how dedicated their "fans" are. You'll note that their crowd stats for 2007 and 2008 are mysteriously missing from their web site. This year will be even worse for them.

 

[hrundi99]

I think you captured what I meant when I made this post Master Raider.

The fact is we've played teams who will not tilt at the title this year, and we've led comfortably twice.

We're playing with neither a soul or a spine at the moment and it's showing.

As an aside, three weeks ago I was in Canberra for the Rugby Union. I'm a Waratahs fan and they were playing the ACT, I went with a mate from Canberra and his folks. We got to the stadium and they said 'so Tim, this is what a REAL stadium looks like' (a comment which threw me, as the Waratahs play out of the SFS - but thats another story entirely), and I replied 'oh, I know it well - I'm a Raiders fan'.

They paused, looked at each other, looked at me, and his dad said 'you must be the last one of those left, surely?'

Performances like the last three are why people say that.

What a load of tripe...

 

[parra pete]

Raiders were hard done by. I really felt for Furnsie at the end of the match...but as a Parramatta supporter I was glad we got the points - but relieved just the same. The Raiders missed Al Tongue, that's for sure. Don't be quick to write off the team. There is plenty of ability there....
My connections tell me Joel Thompson played a big part in the SL Magpies come from behind win over Ipswich..down 18-0 at half time, and won 20-18.
Josh Dugan has to come in for David Milne - who will go to wing in place of Kelly..although David is better at fullback than wing. Josh is too good a player not to be in the starting 17. And I would think about Travis Waddell at 7 instead of Marc, too.
Don't be surprised if Daniel Joyce comes in to the top 17 in the next two weeks...;-)

 

[Macko8]

nah daniel joyce wont get a run
we have too many forwards with tilse and logan expected back next week

 

[legend]

At the pace the Cowboys play, we're in for a long night IMO. We don't have enough creativity or flair in the backs.

 

[shear_joy9]

I can imagine thurston and bowen having a field day.

If kelly is picked again I might have to self-immolate at the front of raiders hq

 

[mongoose]

I can imagine thurston and bowen having a field day.

If kelly is picked again I might have to self-immolate at the front of raiders hq

You go on like a broken record about Kelly.

Some of you forget who we had missing in that game. Tongue and Buttriss for one. Both players would have given us a bit more direction, enthusiasm and intensity. We also had our 3 main metre gainers from last year out. If we had just 2 of Tilse, Logan and Thompson the Eels big men dont run over the top of us in the final 20 minutes imo.

 

[Timbo]

You go on like a broken record about Kelly.

Some of you forget who we had missing in that game. Tongue and Buttriss for one. Both players would have given us a bit more direction, enthusiasm and intensity. We also had our 3 main metre gainers from last year out. If we had just 2 of Tilse, Logan and Thompson the Eels big men dont run over the top of us in the final 20 minutes imo.

We also had Kelly. And he is awful.

 

[Dazraider]

I agree we Had Kelly and he is very woeful as a first grader.

Look at how the first Two rounds they attacked Carneys wing all game and they wasnt really interested in his side of the field when they knew they were up against Kelly.

Decisions were terrible but its still no excuse for the loss.

Looks like Furner doesnt like Henrys style of footy as that only lasted in the first half against the Tigers.

We look like we are going back to one out stuff more oftern and Campese isnt running at the line as much as he should be, instead Furner wants Herbert to do that.

I dont like Miller as prop and hope we get back one of our others in Tilse,Thompson or Logan real soon.

Dugan has to get a shot at first grade this week.

Croker looks ok and he will only get better as the more experiance he gains as with Waddell as well, he was a millions time better than Flanagan, even with buttris back Waddel should get first pick.

We need to go back to razzle dazzle style footy once our props get back in the team as I was a massive fan of thurling starting but I was wrong as He plays way better off the Bench.
Picker is rated high with many fans but to be honest he doesnt give us much in an attacking style backrower, just not strong enough for that style.

Bring in Dugan,Waddel,Vidot and Fensom

we cant do any worse than 0 from 3 so it should be time to try these guys out

 

[Chachi]

I wouldn't go jumping to that conclusion about our playing style.

Before the game Furner spoke about having to respect the ball after such a poor game vs the Roosters. He also expected slippery conditions at Parramatta, which has traditionally been the case in that time slot.

Just because we went back to the basics for one game doesn't mean he has changed his whole style overnight.

 

[matt]

Crikey Timbo has gone off his rocker ...Excellent spray by the way.

 

[Tommax25]

Say what you like about the referees. Say what you like about the video. We lost that game for one reason tonight.

We are a side with no passion and no commitment. We had that game on toast, and we let them back in.

Stu Flanagan...waste of money. Marc Herbert...put up or shut up. Brett Kelly...Where do I start on Brett Kelly? It's all been said before so what does it matter?

A complete lack of heart, a bunch of truly inept players and the inability to adapt when the bounce of the ball went against them.

I'm sick of this team doing this. It's been 10 years since we had a side who didn't fall over at the slightest sign of adversity.

Id like to see your kelly and raise you shane neuman from manly for useless wingers. Granted kelly has had more gametime, therefore more trashy games, but I watched both this week and I think neuman had him.

 

[Timbo]

Id like to see your kelly and raise you shane neuman from manly for useless wingers. Granted kelly has had more gametime, therefore more trashy games, but I watched both this week and I think neuman had him.

The thing about Kelly is...He has now played a lot of games over three seasons, and not one of them was good. The best Kelly can have ever claimed to do at NRL level is to have only f**ked up a little bit on occasion, but largely whenever Kelly has played it's been a total f**k up on his part from kick off to full time. Yet he keeps getting chances. It's terrible.

 

[shear_joy9]

Id like to see your kelly and raise you shane neuman from manly for useless wingers. Granted kelly has had more gametime, therefore more trashy games, but I watched both this week and I think neuman had him.

he really had a kelly esque performance.

'having a kelly' should be the new phrase of a terrible game

 

[mongoose]

I agree we Had Kelly and he is very woeful as a first grader.

Look at how the first Two rounds they attacked Carneys wing all game and they wasnt really interested in his side of the field when they knew they were up against Kelly.

Decisions were terrible but its still no excuse for the loss.

Looks like Furner doesnt like Henrys style of footy as that only lasted in the first half against the Tigers.

We look like we are going back to one out stuff more oftern and Campese isnt running at the line as much as he should be, instead Furner wants Herbert to do that.

I dont like Miller as prop and hope we get back one of our others in Tilse,Thompson or Logan real soon.

Dugan has to get a shot at first grade this week.

Croker looks ok and he will only get better as the more experiance he gains as with Waddell as well, he was a millions time better than Flanagan, even with buttris back Waddel should get first pick.

We need to go back to razzle dazzle style footy once our props get back in the team as I was a massive fan of thurling starting but I was wrong as He plays way better off the Bench.
Picker is rated high with many fans but to be honest he doesnt give us much in an attacking style backrower, just not strong enough for that style.

Bring in Dugan,Waddel,Vidot and Fensom

we cant do any worse than 0 from 3 so it should be time to try these guys out

I am glad you are not coach, thats all i can say.

 

[Whoosh]

Who was the captain with Tongue there?