Heres to David Gallop and the NRL Board.

[Fathead]

Have done a great job with this mess.
At the end of the day, The Storm cheated and they lost.

The only thing I think Gallop should have done was to have suspended the team from the whole competition this year.

David has shown that he is an intelligent and astute leader and thats why excellent administrators like Todd Greenberg and all the other Chief executives support him in what he has done regarding the Storm.

All their success in the last 5 years was as a result of cheating. As Aussies we value fair play above all. Unfortunately its all too easy to heap blame on the dorky looking Administrator and idolise the players.

I support the NRL Administration. The game is bigger than the Storm !!!

 

[Dragon]

Agreed that they should have been suspended, and they would have if not for the contractual obligations to show games on TV. Gallop is basically between a rock and a hard place but has done well imo

 

[The EELiminator]

i agree it was a hellish decision with massive consequences no matter what the outcome was not only for the storm but the nrl itself so instead of nitpicking over details people should accept there was no easy way out of this mess and save their vitriol for those who caused it not those labouring to resolve it

 

[mickdo]

Great post

 

[Loudstrat]

Agreed. Today, two old Canterbury coaches acted like prize twats, pushing their own agenda and lambasting the bloke who has been solo in trying to bring cred to a game fast losing it;s stocks of it.

Gallop has done a brilliant job this week. He needs support, not blame for Melbourne being a crook cheating club!

 

[Ausguy]

Gould is a disgrace as far as im concerned. He waits for somthign to happen then claims he knew it would happen.

 

[Fui!!!]

As soon as the Independent Commission comes along, David Gallop will turn this game into the best sporting competition in the world.

No Doubt.

 

[Jose93]

This is the biggest load of rubbish I've ever heard.

Do you people still not get it?

David Gallop has caused this mess. David Gallop has been in this job for 8 years, and for 5 of them salary cap breaches of the biggest kind just slipped by the net from a club run by his own employers?

He's stripped Premierships and Minor Premierships. Great, but he won't re award them because under Gallop's theory, if you lost to the cheats you can't possibly be declared the winners.

He's preventing Melbourne Storm from getting any points for the rest of the season. Great, but he's still letting the "illegal" team compete and in all likelihood possibly win more games than anyone else this season. And as Gould has ranted on, do you lot not realise the implications on the play offs this could have? I'll tell you why Melbourne Storm are still playing in this competition, for the benefit of News Limited - his employers. The same News Limited who own Fox Sports. The same Fox Sports who would have one less game a week if Melbourne Storm were banned for the rest of the season.

You all think something has happened. Nothing has really. Waldron's long gone, he's not going to bother us again. Gallop's not giving any teams the Premierships they deserve. Gallop's fined his own employers - the biggest joke of all. And the worst thing for you all to have to realise, at this rate, if just some of this group of Storm players stick together like is possible, they're going to win the 2011 competition. I'm happy to start getting rid of a few now if they want - Inglis can go first. He should have been banned last year anyway according to some on this forum.

Gallop should have got the NRL a better TV deal. Oh wait, he can't, as he loves Channel Nine and his own employers.

Gallop should have got the Storm broadcast into Melbourne a lot better.

Gallop can't be bothered to sack Robert Finch. You know, the man who's referees have assisted the Storm in winning two Premierships. Anyone remember Slater's penalty last year? History might have changed if not for the clowns in charge now anyway.

Have your love for David Gallop. Then think what he's actually done here.

 

[mickdo]

David Gallop has caused this mess

I stopped reading right there

 

[The EELiminator]

This is the biggest load of rubbish I've ever heard.

the biggest load of rubbish I've ever heard is quoted below

Do you people still not get it?

David Gallop has caused this mess. David Gallop has been in this job for 8 years, and for 5 of them salary cap breaches of the biggest kind just slipped by the net from a club run by his own employers?

what a crock of sh*t how the hell is melbourne cheating gallop's fault?? answer please i could use a good laugh right now

He's stripped Premierships and Minor Premierships. Great, but he won't re award them because under Gallop's theory, if you lost to the cheats you can't possibly be declared the winners.

but the storm didnt just cheat in the grand final they were cheating all year and for some years before that you could give the trophy to parramatta but its oversimplifying things who knows how the season would have played out if melbourne were playing legally? and parramatta have said they dont want the trophy just handed to them anyway

He's preventing Melbourne Storm from getting any points for the rest of the season. Great, but he's still letting the "illegal" team compete and in all likelihood possibly win more games than anyone else this season. And as Gould has ranted on, do you lot not realise the implications on the play offs this could have?

i will agree with you here a bit they are playing with a bigger salary cap than anyone else but its a grey area what do you do with the storm in 2010? make them sit out the season? people have said let them get under the cap and play for points but how fair is it to dump players midseason when nobody else has cap space for them?

I'll tell you why Melbourne Storm are still playing in this competition, for the benefit of News Limited - his employers. The same News Limited who own Fox Sports. The same Fox Sports who would have one less game a week if Melbourne Storm were banned for the rest of the season.

the same news limited who would probably sue the nrl for breach of contract if they got less than their alloted share of games every week

You all think something has happened. Nothing has really. Waldron's long gone, he's not going to bother us again. Gallop's not giving any teams the Premierships they deserve. Gallop's fined his own employers - the biggest joke of all. And the worst thing for you all to have to realise, at this rate, if just some of this group of Storm players stick together like is possible, they're going to win the 2011 competition. .

thats impossible to predict i dont even know who is going to win the 2010 competition yet

Gallop should have got the NRL a better TV deal. Oh wait, he can't, as he loves Channel Nine and his own employers.

maybe if one of the other channels showed some interest he could negotiate without his hands tied behind his back

Gallop should have got the Storm broadcast into Melbourne a lot better.

i need another answer here please if nine in melbourne dont want to show it in prime time how can he make them?

Gallop can't be bothered to sack Robert Finch. You know, the man who's referees have assisted the Storm in winning two Premierships. Anyone remember Slater's penalty last year? History might have changed if not for the clowns in charge now anyway.

maybe he's scared to sack robert finch who else would be put in charge of referees, harrigan? *shudder*

Have your love for David Gallop. Then think what he's actually done here.

it was a volatile situation that called for immediate action what would you have done?

 

[kia ora storm]

As I have stated elsewhere..I agree with the sanctions but why did it take Gallop's staff 5 years to find this ??.

He needs to be looking at their audit processes and the ability of the auditors in general.

 

[Brutus]

As I have stated elsewhere..I agree with the sanctions but why did it take Gallop's staff 5 years to find this ??.

He needs to be looking at their audit processes and the ability of the auditors in general.

Too true.

 

[Noa]

The NRL try to run their comp on a shoe-string budget for obvious reasons that we won't get into here.

One area that has been in desperate need of funding is the auditing process to check out the clubs. To have just one guy do this for so long is absolutely disgraceful.

If the NRL was serious about catching salary cap cheats then the Tafe educated Schubert would not be on his pat malone.

:lol:, OMFG.

 

[Jose93]

the biggest load of rubbish I've ever heard is quoted below

what a crock of sh*t how the hell is melbourne cheating gallop's fault?? answer please i could use a good laugh right now

Because it's his job to put a salary cap auditing system in place that is full proof. What does David Gallop do with his time that he couldn't have managed this? DO TELL ME.

but the storm didnt just cheat in the grand final they were cheating all year and for some years before that you could give the trophy to parramatta but its oversimplifying things
who knows how the season would have played out if melbourne were playing legally? and parramatta have said they dont want the trophy just handed to them anyway

Same goes for 2006 and 2008. Brisbane and Manly won the competition. Losing teams to Melbourne Storm in the play offs never had a chance either there. Someone won - just find someone who wants to take the trophy. Please, at the moment it feels pointless.

i will agree with you here a bit they are playing with a bigger salary cap than anyone else but its a grey area what do you do with the storm in 2010? make them sit out the season? people have said let them get under the cap and play for points but how fair is it to dump players midseason when nobody else has cap space for them?

Either option is better than the one currently. Take your pick as you please. I'd have the club starting from -6 points if it were up to me. All points gone so far plus 1 for every round. Get the team under the cap.

the same news limited who would probably sue the nrl for breach of contract if they got less than their alloted share of games every week

News Limited suing News Limited. I look forward to it. :sarcasm:

thats impossible to predict i dont even know who is going to win the 2010 competition yet

I don't think it's as impossible as many would think.

maybe if one of the other channels showed some interest he could negotiate without his hands tied behind his back
i need another answer here please if nine in melbourne dont want to show it in prime time how can he make them?

And you think the AFL fta broadcasters want to show some games in Sydney? I think not.

maybe he's scared to sack robert finch who else would be put in charge of referees, harrigan? *shudder*

Ok, good point. I'll re think.

it was a volatile situation that called for immediate action what would you have done?

Something useful.

 

[El Diablo]

Have done a great job with this mess.
At the end of the day, The Storm cheated and they lost.

The only thing I think Gallop should have done was to have suspended the team from the whole competition this year.

David has shown that he is an intelligent and astute leader and thats why excellent administrators like Todd Greenberg and all the other Chief executives support him in what he has done regarding the Storm.

All their success in the last 5 years was as a result of cheating. As Aussies we value fair play above all. Unfortunately its all too easy to heap blame on the dorky looking Administrator and idolise the players.

I support the NRL Administration. The game is bigger than the Storm !!!

 

[The EELiminator]

The NRL try to run their comp on a shoe-string budget for obvious reasons that we won't get into here.

One area that has been in desperate need of funding is the auditing process to check out the clubs. To have just one guy do this for so long is absolutely disgraceful.

If the NRL was serious about catching salary cap cheats then the Tafe educated Schubert would not be on his pat malone.

is there some kind of doctorate in salary cap auditing he can go for?
i agree with you when i first heard about the 1 million prizemoney being returned i said it should go straight to ian schubert for any staff and resources he needs to turn his setup into the best that money can buy

 

[Billythekid]

When it comes time to punish the storm his right there wielding thr iron hammer of justice.

When it comes time to fight to get the storm on FTA tv he is in the corner pissing his pants.

Hows about he shows some leadership when we really need it. Hopefully this supposed "new strong leadership" follows up and actually gets us a decent tv deal.

 

[Fui!!!]

Because it's his job to put a salary cap auditing system in place that is full proof. What does David Gallop do with his time that he couldn't have managed this? DO TELL ME.

I forgot, David Gallop and Ian Schubert should be able to read minds. I mean, how can the police not stop murderers before they kill? That's their job, what the hell are they wasting their time on? :roll:

Either option is better than the one currently. Take your pick as you please. I'd have the club starting from -6 points if it were up to me. All points gone so far plus 1 for every round. Get the team under the cap.

So which 15 middle waged players would you get rid of? And when they go to English Super League, or Rugby, is that gonna be Gallop's fault again?

I don't think it's as impossible as many would think.

Who's gonna win this years premiership?

Something useful.

Like?

 

[Jose93]

I forgot, David Gallop and Ian Schubert should be able to read minds. I mean, how can the police not stop murderers before they kill? That's their job, what the hell are they wasting their time on? :roll:


So which 15 middle waged players would you get rid of? And when they go to English Super League, or Rugby, is that gonna be Gallop's fault again?


Who's gonna win this years premiership?


Like?

You don't need to be able to read minds when you have 5 years of this without discovery, 16 teams to deal. If Melbourne Storm have got away with it for this long, then the whole competition could of. Columbo Schubert was never going to know.

But my biggest issue lies with Gallop yet again. He's maintained that the Salary Cap can't be full-proof, won't be full-proof. Like we haven't found that out Mr Gallop. So why does he not now try to do something about it - to help players and teams?

But we know why don't we? His employers at News Limited who don't pay the sport enough money for TV rights. And if they did, maybe clubs would be able to be more profitable and as a result raise the salary cap. Then we might not fear Rugby or to a lesser extent the English Super League.

Dragons for 2010. But I'm happy to stick with my point about the Storm for 2011. Gallop must be terrified of what might happen. He needs this team to break up. How it's going to happen at the moment, no one knows.

And as for the like part, maybe I wouldn't have messed this years competition up.

 

[chrisD]

You don't need to be able to read minds when you have 5 years of this without discovery, 16 teams to deal. If Melbourne Storm have got away with it for this long, then the whole competition could of. Columbo Schubert was never going to know.

But my biggest issue lies with Gallop yet again. He's maintained that the Salary Cap can't be full-proof, won't be full-proof. Like we haven't found that out Mr Gallop. So why does he not now try to do something about it - to help players and teams?

But we know why don't we? His employers at News Limited who don't pay the sport enough money for TV rights. And if they did, maybe clubs would be able to be more profitable and as a result raise the salary cap. Then we might not fear Rugby or to a lesser extent the English Super League.

Dragons for 2010. But I'm happy to stick with my point about the Storm for 2011. Gallop must be terrified of what might happen. He needs this team to break up. How it's going to happen at the moment, no one knows.

And as for the like part, maybe I wouldn't have messed this years competition up.

This years competition was messed up by the Storm cheating. Had the cheaters been caught before a game had been played Gallop may have had some room to move, but they weren't.

News are the reason for the salary cap, but not for the reason you think. A close competition helps not only News, but everyone. Gallop quite clearly does not want to have reigned over the NRL in a time that will be remembered for it becoming the Panthers, Dragons, Broncos and Newcastle big four competition. Not on his watch. And any effective means to stop this from happening will always be open to fraud, especially fraud as deceitful and calculated as what the Storm have committed.

There may be better ways, and it's worth discussing at a later date, but the chance of someone cheating the system is always going to be there unless you choose to allow the NRL to become a big four competition like the Premier League, that's what it boils down to.

You and people like you think inside a bubble, rattling off ideas from the top of your head without considering all the pressures from all the sides involved in the situation. It's getting irritating.