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Hindys circle of life

Y2Eel

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Yet another crack (if you will excuse the pun) appears re: Hindmarsh.


His effectiveness on the field has dulled from the zero of a few years ago to actually being a liability. He is, along with Vella and Cayless, the reason Parramatta did not win the premiership in 2001. At that time, his poor performance was more the exception than the rule, but by the time he was playing Origin in the beginning of NSW's current losing streak, the rule and the exception swapped sides. Along with Andrew Ryan's similar traits and Phil Gould's myth of making Origin a hallowed place where workmanlike stoicism is more highly valued than entertaining and effective skill, Origin became entrenched as a money-making bonanza which, when the veneer is stripped, is an "event" made special for the money generated, scorned by the very few remaining smart league fans much as dedicated racegoers look with disdain upon the once-a-year racing enthusiasts at Melbourne Cup who organise sweeps, lunches, fancy-hat events, gush about the chances of the horse with the jockey wearing velvet with pink polka-dots, and wouldn't know the difference between a lock, a forelock or a fetlock.


A good second-rower can either be the type that provides tough, intimidating defence, or runs hard at the line, or provides second-phase play or perhaps ball-playing before the line, putting the defence in two minds every time he receives the ball. Hindmarsh provides none of these, rather, a soft third-man in tackler and a lumbering runner where there is never a question in the defensive team's mind that he will try to pass the ball in any of his (s)hit ups. Every time he receives the ball, it in fact provides the defence the opportunity to regroup, take a short breather, and prepare themselves for the following ruck, sending in a couple of pawns to make an easy tackle.

As for the likes of people making note of the fact that every time the opposition scores, he is seen to be the man always in picture chasing... so what? He has done nothing to prevent the try, the try invariably being neither the first nor last of the match against Parramatta. His passion? His heart? There is more passion and heart shown on the anguished faces of Parramatta fans in the background, but they are not selected for first-grade, for although like Hindmarsh they do not have the ability, unlike him they do not have the myth perpetuated for so long by commentators and journalists following a trend that they know will be accepted of espousing his deeds.


As for this revealing story about his addiction to poker machines a dozen or so years ago, at least he can be applauded for bringing to light and trying his utmost to solve a serious social problem in Australia. (ha!) As Chopper Read would say, it can be dismissed as foul slander and gossip that the fact is that his media mates obliged him by promoting his upcoming book, being released as his playing career payments wind down.


One last thing. He has been a destabilising influence on Parramatta for many years, comparable only to Jason Taylor's negative influence at Wests and Norths. His outspoken negative views, when viewed as a whole, were echoing the thoughts of such prima-donna princess knuckleheads as Tahu and Hayne, and were given great weight, solemnly and incorrectly, by the league population as a whole. Parramatta lost a terrific coach in Anderson due in no small part to Hindmarsh. The new coach wanted to drop him, rightly so, but the impossibility of doing so contributed indirectly yet importantly to his own sacking.

You sir have wasted your life....
 

LazyDreamer

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"Hindmarsh.....reveals he would blow up to $2000 a day at the height of his addiction, which he battled over a six-year period during his early 20s."

Ummmm, are they now reporting in dog years? Coz if Hindmarsh's mid 20s & late 20s were of similar durations...
 

LazyDreamer

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Sigh. Of all the addictions to have, even within gambling, I really don't understand slot machines.

Slot machines are the nicotine of the gambling family of vices.

Other drugs make you happy and don't taste shit and don't stink, and yet millions smoke.

Other forms of gambling like poker and sports betting actually have an element of skill and decision making, and yet millions put money into the one armed bandits.

Does. Not. Compute.

It's the same reason that TV game shows like 'Deal Or no Deal' and the various TV karaoke shows succeed - no knowledge or thought whatsoever required.

To play poker, for example. You've got to learn the rules. Then through playing you'll develop strategies. You've got to make decisions. You've got to deal with the pressure of the game. You've got to deal with different foes with their own strategies & gameplay. Hell, you've got to interact with others!

To play a poker machine, you've got to decide which one, then switch off your brain.

Australia is by & large a lazy nation; intellectually as well as physically.
 

JoeD

First Grade
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I think about all the things I could have done with that money: I could have owned the house I’m sitting in now
from the article -

Does this imply he doesn't eevn own his own home after a decade of playing first grade footy?
 

muzby

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can't believe I am standing up for bunnyman but ...

"Slot machines are the nicotine of the gambling family of vices."

He was comparing it to nicotine - a legal drug

Incorrect.. there are plenty of other gambling vices that are legal.. less so any legal drugs..

Possibly because its a drug for poor people?


Wow..

What's the world coming to when we discuss hidden meaning in quotes by bunniesman - a bloke who's mind best resembles a tumbleweed rolling through a barren desert landscape.. being chased by Greg inglis..
 

Stagger Lee

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Wow..

What's the world coming to when we discuss hidden meaning in quotes by bunniesman - a bloke who's mind best resembles a tumbleweed rolling through a barren desert landscape.. being chased by Greg inglis..

Agree .... Lets never mention this again :p
 
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Yet another crack (if you will excuse the pun) appears re: Hindmarsh.


His effectiveness on the field has dulled from the zero of a few years ago to actually being a liability. He is, along with Vella and Cayless, the reason Parramatta did not win the premiership in 2001. At that time, his poor performance was more the exception than the rule, but by the time he was playing Origin in the beginning of NSW's current losing streak, the rule and the exception swapped sides. Along with Andrew Ryan's similar traits and Phil Gould's myth of making Origin a hallowed place where workmanlike stoicism is more highly valued than entertaining and effective skill, Origin became entrenched as a money-making bonanza which, when the veneer is stripped, is an "event" made special for the money generated, scorned by the very few remaining smart league fans much as dedicated racegoers look with disdain upon the once-a-year racing enthusiasts at Melbourne Cup who organise sweeps, lunches, fancy-hat events, gush about the chances of the horse with the jockey wearing velvet with pink polka-dots, and wouldn't know the difference between a lock, a forelock or a fetlock.


A good second-rower can either be the type that provides tough, intimidating defence, or runs hard at the line, or provides second-phase play or perhaps ball-playing before the line, putting the defence in two minds every time he receives the ball. Hindmarsh provides none of these, rather, a soft third-man in tackler and a lumbering runner where there is never a question in the defensive team's mind that he will try to pass the ball in any of his (s)hit ups. Every time he receives the ball, it in fact provides the defence the opportunity to regroup, take a short breather, and prepare themselves for the following ruck, sending in a couple of pawns to make an easy tackle.

As for the likes of people making note of the fact that every time the opposition scores, he is seen to be the man always in picture chasing... so what? He has done nothing to prevent the try, the try invariably being neither the first nor last of the match against Parramatta. His passion? His heart? There is more passion and heart shown on the anguished faces of Parramatta fans in the background, but they are not selected for first-grade, for although like Hindmarsh they do not have the ability, unlike him they do not have the myth perpetuated for so long by commentators and journalists following a trend that they know will be accepted of espousing his deeds.


As for this revealing story about his addiction to poker machines a dozen or so years ago, at least he can be applauded for bringing to light and trying his utmost to solve a serious social problem in Australia. (ha!) As Chopper Read would say, it can be dismissed as foul slander and gossip that the fact is that his media mates obliged him by promoting his upcoming book, being released as his playing career payments wind down.


One last thing. He has been a destabilising influence on Parramatta for many years, comparable only to Jason Taylor's negative influence at Wests and Norths. His outspoken negative views, when viewed as a whole, were echoing the thoughts of such prima-donna princess knuckleheads as Tahu and Hayne, and were given great weight, solemnly and incorrectly, by the league population as a whole. Parramatta lost a terrific coach in Anderson due in no small part to Hindmarsh. The new coach wanted to drop him, rightly so, but the impossibility of doing so contributed indirectly yet importantly to his own sacking.

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Card Shark

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from the article -

Does this imply he doesn't eevn own his own home after a decade of playing first grade footy?

Yes & now he is selling a book about his gambling addiction to compensate for his losses from a gambling addiction.

Bit ironic!
 

Izz

Bench
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Ummmm, are they now reporting in dog years? Coz if Hindmarsh's mid 20s & late 20s were of similar durations...
Perhaps someone's finally cottoned on to the fact that footballers age 2 to 2 1/2 years for every 1 year of their career.

That's why when most footballers retire in their early 30s they look like they're in their mid to late 40s...
 
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Hutty1986

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It's a massive problem for young cashed-up league players. 200k, that is f**king devastating!!
 

Bring it home Knights

First Grade
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I'd be curious to know what type of coin Hindmarsh made over his career. He started in 1998 from memory and that's when the money offered to players was near its peak. It wouldn't surprise me if he was on around 400K for a lot of his career also.
 

BunniesMan

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from the article -

Does this imply he doesn't eevn own his own home after a decade of playing first grade footy?
Yep.

And with the 200k gambling debt, don't forget that was on credit cards. Nasty interest would have come with it. He may have ended up paying 400-500k by the time he got rid of it.

And after tax and all the other bills that come with life, even star players don't have as much as people would think.
 

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