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home semi venue/day?

westie

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Surely we'd have a much larger contract for the final than we would for a standard home game.
 

meltiger

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:?

Are you serious?

Absoloutely I am.


Grandstands are built like planes - Rock hard seats and legroom suitable only for shortarses. You think it's hard moving around on the hill? Try being 'lucky' enough to get a ticket in the middle seats of a row and trying to get out for a beer...

It should not be at the SFS if we are playing the Roosters.

For any other club in the semis, I have no problems playing it at the SFS.

This.

Regardless of the result? We're talking about finals footy, here - the result is all that matters.

No. The likes of yourself and Westie have made it abundantly clear that money and crowd size are more important than the result.

I almost believe you are serious... Winning games, yes. Pandering to small minded ne'er-do-wells? I sure hope not.

I am 100% serious.


& as for the bolded, well if thinking that locking in the SFS before we know who we are playing, which is highly likely to be the Roosters is one of the singlemost geniused ideas the JV has come up with in it's 11 years (& the list of entries is a long one) - Then yes, I am an unashamed small minded ne'er-do-well...


I just cannot fathom how you morons can't see that playing a home final at the SFS against the Roosters is mad. It really does boggle the mind.


It's not about the traditions or anything like that. I f**king hate Western Suburbs and refuse to attend any JV games at Campbelltown, but if drawn to play the Roosters, i'd schedule the game there in a heartbeat if it were a choice between the Sth West and the SFS.


If we hadn't been running into Friday's game with the injury list we have, I wouldn't be so upset by this stupid, stupid decision. It is more likely than not that we will be playing Easts, if as assumed the decision has been made before we know who we are playing, the club is incompetent. Simple as that.
 
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meltiger

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A contract doesn't mean sh*t. If money is not an issue (as apparently it's not - because only winning is) then the Tigers could simply repudiate the contract and offer to pay damages...

If they are clever, they'll do just that - then the NRL will come in with an offer of $250K to move to the big ground which we will accept, the SCG Trust will pay us our poxy $100K (or more, if we can talk 'em into it), we'll go on to win the Grand Final and pick up another $250K in prize money, and the club will be at least $600K (+ merchandise and new member revenue) richer for their run in 2010. Which is more than what you can say for the Dragons.

Seriously, I don't know why they don't give me the marketing job...

& if we play our home final against Easts on their home ground, lose and get eliminated. How much money do we make then?
 

westie

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Stats please. Record at SFS compared with LO and campbelltown. And indeed, our 2005 ANZ record compared with the other two. I'd wager it'd be on par, if not better at the more modern grounds.

It's my belief we play better at the bigger grounds. Even ones we've lost like Parra last year, was undoubtably our best performance in recent times.

As it is, we've won 2/2 finals at both ANZ and SFS - the crowd being a deciding factor in each.
 

meltiger

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Stats please. Record at SFS compared with LO and campbelltown.

It's on weststigersforum - Never played the Roosters at Leichhardt apparently. Did lose to them down at povertyville this season but wouldn't have if not for Beau having a "moment" and dropping the bomb. Fact is, on one of our REAL home grounds, we are able to play like busted arseholes and hold on for the vast majority of the game before one f**k up cost us the contest.


We are of course unbeaten at Leichhardt. Not the same I can say for the SFS. To that end, we would have lost the Canberra and Cronulla games at any other ground in the world the way we played those days.

It's my belief we play better at the bigger grounds. Even ones we've lost like Parra last year, was undoubtably our best performance in recent times.

Yep, let's all be proud of them if they put on their best performance of the year, and lose ... :lol:

As it is, we've won 2/2 finals at both ANZ and SFS - the crowd being a deciding factor in each.

2005.

Nth Qld, Brisbane, St George, Nth Qld.

How many of them were tenants of the respective stadiums?
 
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meltiger

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Two more days lol

Let's hope we win on Friday night and it puts this whole argument to bed :D


Easts aren't going to finish 7th
 

Tiger Hawk

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I was at all four of those finals games in 2005 and whilst the atmosphere was great I can't say that the crowd in any of those games was a deciding factor. We romped home in the first & second matches and then took advantage of our opportunities in the third & fourth.
 

N.C.

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No. The likes of yourself and Westie have made it abundantly clear that money and crowd size are more important than the result.

...

& as for the bolded, well if thinking that locking in the SFS before we know who we are playing, which is highly likely to be the Roosters is one of the singlemost geniused ideas the JV has come up with in it's 11 years (& the list of entries is a long one) - Then yes, I am an unashamed small minded ne'er-do-well...

...

I just cannot fathom how you morons can't see that playing a home final at the SFS against the Roosters is mad. It really does boggle the mind.

...

It's not about the traditions or anything like that. I f**king hate Western Suburbs and refuse to attend any JV games at Campbelltown, but if drawn to play the Roosters, i'd schedule the game there in a heartbeat if it were a choice between the Sth West and the SFS.

...

If we hadn't been running into Friday's game with the injury list we have, I wouldn't be so upset by this stupid, stupid decision. It is more likely than not that we will be playing Easts, if as assumed the decision has been made before we know who we are playing, the club is incompetent. Simple as that.

I'm pretty sure I'm on the record saying we should play at a suburban ground if we come up against an out of towner... I also don't think a game against the Roosters should be played as the SFS - but I won't cry if that's where we end up because I'm not so deluded as to think the ground really matters. Maybe it would have 20 years ago, but not today... That's just the nature of the "business" these days.
 

macnaz

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When push comes to shove NC in a tight game a home crowd certainly makes a diference, it can lift players defence as well as sway a referee's call. I guess if a side is on song it shouldnt matter but we havnt been all that brilliant so i wouldnt mind the little bit of home crowd help :)
Plus players can hear the crowd..lol watch Beu Knows Leichart Oval on youtube.. Its pretty funny
 
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N.C.

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When push comes to shove NC in a tight game a home crowd certainly makes a diference, it can lift players defence as well as sway a referee's call. I guess if a side is on song it shouldnt matter but we havnt been all that brilliant so i wouldnt mind the little bit of home crowd help :)
Plus players can hear the crowd..lol watch Beu Knows Leichart Oval on youtube.. Its pretty funny

Sure - but I'm not at all convinced that playing at the SFS would make any Tigers supporters stay at home. We can still pull a strong, pro-Tigers crowd... I mean it's not like we'd be playing Manly at Brookvale.
 

meltiger

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Fair enough NC

For mine, it's not the crowd, it's the psychological advantage. Anyone who has played football knows at any level you do play better on your own home ground and i don't care what anyone says the SFS is not our home ground.

In saying that, I don't really care about playing there if we draw anyone bar Easts.


I know it's reaching and very much unprecedented, I just look at the top 4, Saints, Gold Coast & Penny, and when you look at their form of late, it is very possible that several of the top 4 could get beat in week 1. I just worry about finishing 4th and being eliminated if we get beat. Hell, Manly got eliminated after week 1 from 5th last year because of the respective chokes at Kogarah and Robina.
 
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N.C.

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I've played football, meltiger, and I know that it's not the ground that matters, its the crowd.

Guess it's more a matter of opinion than fact, eh?
 

meltiger

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I've played football, meltiger, and I know that it's not the ground that matters, its the crowd.

Guess it's more a matter of opinion than fact, eh?

bullsh*t.


Even at lower levels, where f**k all people turn up, you play better on your own home ground. It feels like home, you know every blade of grass, you know the weather/wind like the back of your hand etc


Anyone who needs the crowd to fire up shouldn't be playing pro football ;-)


To that end, sometimes I do wonder if the Leichhardt crowd is a myth. I absoloutely love the place, but realistically, how much more an advantage would the crowd at Leichhardt be in comparison to say Campbelltown? But no one ever talks up the Campbelltown crowd. Honestly, I think it's a myth
 

Timmah

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I recall hearing on the footy show late last night they'll definitely play at the SFS
 

N.C.

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bullsh*t.


Even at lower levels, where f**k all people turn up, you play better on your own home ground. It feels like home, you know every blade of grass, you know the weather/wind like the back of your hand etc


Anyone who needs the crowd to fire up shouldn't be playing pro football ;-)

Let's see - you train at one ground, but you never play there, and you have about three home grounds, but you hardly ever train there...

Nope, can't understand what you're on about mate.

To that end, sometimes I do wonder if the Leichhardt crowd is a myth. I absoloutely love the place, but realistically, how much more an advantage would the crowd at Leichhardt be in comparison to say Campbelltown? But no one ever talks up the Campbelltown crowd. Honestly, I think it's a myth

Then again, now that you contradict yourself, maybe I do get you?

Anyway, thanks for the good times - I reckon the SFS is nice for us out-of-towners 'cause it will be easier to get to from the major transport hubs. Aw, Wests Tigers - thanks for all those warm fuzzy feelings.
 

innsaneink

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I was at all four of those finals games in 2005 and whilst the atmosphere was great I can't say that the crowd in any of those games was a deciding factor. We romped home in the first & second matches and then took advantage of our opportunities in the third & fourth.
I remember our crowd at the broncos game actually spurred them on for a bit.
Our first (?) try in the 2nd half and the broncos were in the ingoal, we were giving it to them in spades from behind the posts, Brad thorn and a few others were using us as motivation, watching us while the kick was being taken, I knew they'd hit back, and they did....but we had too much start
 

meltiger

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LOL. Our reward for finishing 3rd is an away final. Hope all you SFS fan boys are happy tonight. FMD
 
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