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How do you pick a team for next week?

skandofan

Juniors
Messages
142
Magpie Nick said:
Reynolds didn't even play one game at Halfback. If your saying Reynolds is our worst buy because he didn't perform, surely that tag goes to Pat Richards at the moment.

SIDE V MANLY RD.7

1. Brett Hodgson
2. Jason Moodie
3. John Wilson
4. Shane Elford
5. Daniel Fitzhenry
6. Scott Prince
7. Ben Reynolds
8. Bryce Gibbs
9. Robbie Mears
10. John Skandalis
11. Nick Graham
12. Mark O'Neill
13. Scott Sattler (c)
------------------------
14. Robbie Farah
15. Chris Paterson
16. Ben Galea
17. Anthony Laffranchi
 

skandofan

Juniors
Messages
142
daslacker said:
skandofan said:
daslacker said:
skandofan said:
as good as Kerr is, there is no doubting prince's ability and the fact that he is a representative player

kerr is a very good service half, that is, setting up the forwards and kicking on the 5th,

therefore, it's good to have him in premier league- that is unless he can play 5/8th

otherwise u'd have to have "rocks in ur head" to decide to put prince in a position he has not played at this yr/.......


You would have to have "rocks in your head" if u think prince wasn't
playing 5/8 when reynolds was around.

I am a huge fan of kerr's....sorry

IMHO kerr is a hell of alot better than reynolds.Prince was playing outside
reynolds.I just can't see why sheen's wouldn't opt the same.


i cant see why u would want him there anyway... wheres he playing on wednesday night????

and did u really think reynolds was a success at half? he was our worst buy.....

kerr's good as i said as a back up.... if he was the andrew johns u describe him as he would be still playing for st. george instead of matthew head....


IMO prince is a better 5/8 than half when he gets good ball from the
half.Watch some games last year from the broncos and u will see
what i mean.Alot more dangerous with ball in hand.


Reynolds was dissapointing,I had reasonably expectation which
he didn't live up to.

Did u think johns would have got a name for himself if he just played pl?
I never said he was a 'joey or orford' but kerr has the potentuial to
make a name for himself.
Hasn't kerr had a few injuiry problems in the past.But also with
firman ahead of him last year why wouldn't he want to be released?


If something's not broke, don't fix it...... why f**k around with a team that is sitting 6th on the ladder 1/2 way through the season

so prince gets back from origin and we say "hey scott, well played in ORIGIN, oh by the way, we've decided this premier league player is better than u - so ur now at no.6"

changing players around like sheens did last yr and wat lamb did CONSTANTLY is not something we need at the moment

if u hear most interviews with sheens he stresses the importance of CONSISTANCY.... moving players around does not provide this....

not
 

daslacker

Juniors
Messages
444
skandofan said:
daslacker said:
skandofan said:
daslacker said:
skandofan said:
as good as Kerr is, there is no doubting prince's ability and the fact that he is a representative player

kerr is a very good service half, that is, setting up the forwards and kicking on the 5th,

therefore, it's good to have him in premier league- that is unless he can play 5/8th

otherwise u'd have to have "rocks in ur head" to decide to put prince in a position he has not played at this yr/.......


You would have to have "rocks in your head" if u think prince wasn't
playing 5/8 when reynolds was around.

I am a huge fan of kerr's....sorry

IMHO kerr is a hell of alot better than reynolds.Prince was playing outside
reynolds.I just can't see why sheen's wouldn't opt the same.


i cant see why u would want him there anyway... wheres he playing on wednesday night????

and did u really think reynolds was a success at half? he was our worst buy.....

kerr's good as i said as a back up.... if he was the andrew johns u describe him as he would be still playing for st. george instead of matthew head....


IMO prince is a better 5/8 than half when he gets good ball from the
half.Watch some games last year from the broncos and u will see
what i mean.Alot more dangerous with ball in hand.


Reynolds was dissapointing,I had reasonably expectation which
he didn't live up to.

Did u think johns would have got a name for himself if he just played pl?
I never said he was a 'joey or orford' but kerr has the potentuial to
make a name for himself.
Hasn't kerr had a few injuiry problems in the past.But also with
firman ahead of him last year why wouldn't he want to be released?


If something's not broke, don't fix it...... why f**k around with a team that is sitting 6th on the ladder 1/2 way through the season

so prince gets back from origin and we say "hey scott, well played in ORIGIN, oh by the way, we've decided this premier league player is better than u - so ur now at no.6"

changing players around like sheens did last yr and wat lamb did CONSTANTLY is not something we need at the moment

if u hear most interviews with sheens he stresses the importance of CONSISTANCY.... moving players around does not provide this....

not


Okay :roll:

Did nathan brown play timmins at 5/8 the other night because of
playing that position in origin.No

So u don't want players brought up from pl because u want to
see the same (consistant) team read out team played each week
win/lose or draw.Even if players are in a form slump.

I rate prince highly as a 5/8,yet he is ATM the best option at
half for queensland.

U say sheens want consistancy which to u mean not changing
the team around.I would be very suprised if we have had the
same 17 for 3 weeks in a row this year.

6th on the table.
Who cares who was sitting on the 6th on the ladder half way
though the season if they don't make the 8 when it counts.

And yes i do think we will make the 8
 

skandofan

Juniors
Messages
142
daslacker said:
skandofan said:
daslacker said:
skandofan said:
daslacker said:
skandofan said:
as good as Kerr is, there is no doubting prince's ability and the fact that he is a representative player

kerr is a very good service half, that is, setting up the forwards and kicking on the 5th,

therefore, it's good to have him in premier league- that is unless he can play 5/8th

otherwise u'd have to have "rocks in ur head" to decide to put prince in a position he has not played at this yr/.......


You would have to have "rocks in your head" if u think prince wasn't
playing 5/8 when reynolds was around.

I am a huge fan of kerr's....sorry

IMHO kerr is a hell of alot better than reynolds.Prince was playing outside
reynolds.I just can't see why sheen's wouldn't opt the same.


i cant see why u would want him there anyway... wheres he playing on wednesday night????

and did u really think reynolds was a success at half? he was our worst buy.....

kerr's good as i said as a back up.... if he was the andrew johns u describe him as he would be still playing for st. george instead of matthew head....


IMO prince is a better 5/8 than half when he gets good ball from the
half.Watch some games last year from the broncos and u will see
what i mean.Alot more dangerous with ball in hand.


Reynolds was dissapointing,I had reasonably expectation which
he didn't live up to.

Did u think johns would have got a name for himself if he just played pl?
I never said he was a 'joey or orford' but kerr has the potentuial to
make a name for himself.
Hasn't kerr had a few injuiry problems in the past.But also with
firman ahead of him last year why wouldn't he want to be released?


If something's not broke, don't fix it...... why f**k around with a team that is sitting 6th on the ladder 1/2 way through the season

so prince gets back from origin and we say "hey scott, well played in ORIGIN, oh by the way, we've decided this premier league player is better than u - so ur now at no.6"

changing players around like sheens did last yr and wat lamb did CONSTANTLY is not something we need at the moment

if u hear most interviews with sheens he stresses the importance of CONSISTANCY.... moving players around does not provide this....

not


Okay :roll:

Did nathan brown play timmins at 5/8 the other night because of
playing that position in origin.No

So u don't want players brought up from pl because u want to
see the same (consistant) team read out team played each week
win/lose or draw.Even if players are in a form slump.

I rate prince highly as a 5/8,yet he is ATM the best option at
half for queensland.

U say sheens want consistancy which to u mean not changing
the team around.I would be very suprised if we have had the
same 17 for 3 weeks in a row this year.

6th on the table.
Who cares who was sitting on the 6th on the ladder half way
though the season if they don't make the 8 when it counts.

And yes i do think we will make the 8


a team is always going to change the 17 in some way or another- its stupid to think that it will always be identical

im sorry i didnt realise prince was in a form slump as u say... i actually think hes been playing pretty damn good over the last weeks

and if u rate him good as a 5/8th thats fine but u dont pick the team sheens does and thats why prince hasnt been playing there....

and yeah we r in the 8 and we will make the 8 u cant just go ahead and assume we will miss the 8 this early anyway..,....
 

bonstonker

Juniors
Messages
450
How do you pick a team for next week?

by looking at the big picture.

first of all i would have duffy on the wing.
wilson on the wing is just too big a gamble.the dragons kicking game and vision of barrett has a big probability of them exposing wilson with the kicking game.
to be honest i don't know why duffy isn't there now.probably the same reason you want wilson on the wing being sheens is trying to find a spot for fitzy,even if it is not the best option.

i would have kerr half and prince 5/8.that combo gives us a better balanced last tackle option and the fact is prince cannot be counted on to handle the kicking duties on his own.i also think kerr has better vision closer in than prince and the extra space will make prince a more consistent player,so i see it as a win win situation.

the pack we have a few options if satts is fit.
if he is you have a front row of payten,skando and senter,with a backrow of boof,galea and satts.

now the big ommission is buckets and i have left him out of the starting pack not because of form but a better balance to the team and a game plan.

i have noticed time and time again that we struggle against the better teams between the 30min and 50 min stage of the game.
and with senter and buckets usually being off the field during this time our defence has really struggled and having buckets on during this time will see us alot more solid during this crucial period of the game.


the rest of the bench i have mears,gibbs and heigo.

if satts isn't fit i would push galea back to lock,start heigo and put in fulton off the bench.

the only spot i am having trouble with is that side isn't covered to well for injuries in the backline.i can see a case for having fitzy on the bench for mears as fitzy has been sharp at hooker when required as has mears, but i do like the utility value fitzy has,although that utility value is up and down an awful lot.which is probably why i am having such a hard time deciding who to go with.
but at this stage i'll just stick with mears. ;-)
 

CULLUS.ONLINE

Juniors
Messages
854
During the Manly game when Prince moved to 5/8th we scored all those points. Me, personally, would feel very comfortable if Prince moved to 5/8th and Kerr stayed 1/2
 

tracietiga

Juniors
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177
Scott Prince wants to play 5/8 .
so Kerr will be the half when he returns .

A lot are giving wilson the wraps at 5/8 . well look at the game again .
Hodgo was the man pulling the strings from 5/8 .

Wilsons defence was great , but Hodgo ran the game from the middle of the park
 

HappyTiger

Juniors
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724
1 Hodgson
2 Moodie
3 Halatau
4 Wilson
5 Elford

6 Prince
7 Kerr

13 Galea
12 O Neill
11 Laffrancchi
10 Skandalis
9 Senter
8 Payten

14 Mears
15 Heighnington
16 Gibbs
17 Fitzhenry
 

tracietiga

Juniors
Messages
177
Elford is NOT a winger .
How good will it be if Pat Richards comes back 100% , running off the Elford breaks.
 

westie

Bench
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HappyTiger said:
1 Hodgson
2 Moodie
3 Halatau
4 Wilson
5 Elford

6 Prince
7 Kerr

13 Galea
12 O Neill
11 Laffrancchi
10 Skandalis
9 Senter
8 Payten

14 Mears
15 Heighnington
16 Gibbs
17 Fitzhenry

Why in gods name would you want to split up Elf and Moodie's combination of 14 games??? They just complement each other at the moment, they know each other's game. It would be insane to break up the only consistent combination we've had all year.
 

Magpie Nick

Juniors
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1,227
skandofan said:
Magpie Nick said:
Reynolds didn't even play one game at Halfback. If your saying Reynolds is our worst buy because he didn't perform, surely that tag goes to Pat Richards at the moment.

SIDE V MANLY RD.7

1. Brett Hodgson
2. Jason Moodie
3. John Wilson
4. Shane Elford
5. Daniel Fitzhenry
6. Scott Prince
7. Ben Reynolds
8. Bryce Gibbs
9. Robbie Mears
10. John Skandalis
11. Nick Graham
12. Mark O'Neill
13. Scott Sattler (c)
------------------------
14. Robbie Farah
15. Chris Paterson
16. Ben Galea
17. Anthony Laffranchi

Yes I know he played in this game but he didn't play one WHOLE game....
 

steven_tiger

Juniors
Messages
1,437
1. Hodgson
2. Moodie
3. Halatau
4. Elford
5. Fitzhenry

6. Prince
7. Kerr

8. Laffranchi
9. Senter
10. Skandalis
11. Galea
12. O'Neill
13. Sattler

14. Mears
15. Heighnington
16. Payten
17. Wilson
 

daslacker

Juniors
Messages
444
skandofan said:
daslacker said:
skandofan said:
daslacker said:
skandofan said:
daslacker said:
skandofan said:
as good as Kerr is, there is no doubting prince's ability and the fact that he is a representative player

kerr is a very good service half, that is, setting up the forwards and kicking on the 5th,

therefore, it's good to have him in premier league- that is unless he can play 5/8th

otherwise u'd have to have "rocks in ur head" to decide to put prince in a position he has not played at this yr/.......


You would have to have "rocks in your head" if u think prince wasn't
playing 5/8 when reynolds was around.

I am a huge fan of kerr's....sorry

IMHO kerr is a hell of alot better than reynolds.Prince was playing outside
reynolds.I just can't see why sheen's wouldn't opt the same.


i cant see why u would want him there anyway... wheres he playing on wednesday night????

and did u really think reynolds was a success at half? he was our worst buy.....

kerr's good as i said as a back up.... if he was the andrew johns u describe him as he would be still playing for st. george instead of matthew head....


IMO prince is a better 5/8 than half when he gets good ball from the
half.Watch some games last year from the broncos and u will see
what i mean.Alot more dangerous with ball in hand.


Reynolds was dissapointing,I had reasonably expectation which
he didn't live up to.

Did u think johns would have got a name for himself if he just played pl?
I never said he was a 'joey or orford' but kerr has the potentuial to
make a name for himself.
Hasn't kerr had a few injuiry problems in the past.But also with
firman ahead of him last year why wouldn't he want to be released?


If something's not broke, don't fix it...... why f**k around with a team that is sitting 6th on the ladder 1/2 way through the season

so prince gets back from origin and we say "hey scott, well played in ORIGIN, oh by the way, we've decided this premier league player is better than u - so ur now at no.6"

changing players around like sheens did last yr and wat lamb did CONSTANTLY is not something we need at the moment

if u hear most interviews with sheens he stresses the importance of CONSISTANCY.... moving players around does not provide this....

not


Okay :roll:

Did nathan brown play timmins at 5/8 the other night because of
playing that position in origin.No

So u don't want players brought up from pl because u want to
see the same (consistant) team read out team played each week
win/lose or draw.Even if players are in a form slump.

I rate prince highly as a 5/8,yet he is ATM the best option at
half for queensland.

U say sheens want consistancy which to u mean not changing
the team around.I would be very suprised if we have had the
same 17 for 3 weeks in a row this year.

6th on the table.
Who cares who was sitting on the 6th on the ladder half way
though the season if they don't make the 8 when it counts.

And yes i do think we will make the 8


a team is always going to change the 17 in some way or another- its stupid to think that it will always be identical

im sorry i didnt realise prince was in a form slump as u say... i actually think hes been playing pretty damn good over the last weeks

and if u rate him good as a 5/8th thats fine but u dont pick the team sheens does and thats why prince hasnt been playing there....

and yeah we r in the 8 and we will make the 8 u cant just go ahead and assume we will miss the 8 this early anyway..,....


Where did i say prince is in a form slump?
I wanna see prince with less pressure on him,organising,kicking
game.He is more affective wider of the ruck.

I never said we will miss the 8.But the real comp starts after round 26

If kerr's a dud or wilson plays 5/8 with prince at 1/2 i'll be
happy if we are winning
 

SouthernTiger

Juniors
Messages
367
Im not going to get into this deabte but to say Prince has long said that his prefrred position in 5/8th, and that Keiran is more than a good servicing half. I fact in the past I would say that was his weakest point. He is far better when he has the ball in hand, and if given the opportunity to get his confidence up and some combinations going he will be a revelation. In Sept last year Keiran thought his career was over and is only just starting to get the his confidence back fuly

cheers

s. tiger
 

SouthernTiger

Juniors
Messages
367
The point i think is if Kerr plays well than this side can do anything this year because he has enormous potential. However, Wilson is solid but we wont be world beaters

cheers

s. tiger
 

Eddie.

Bench
Messages
4,188
I wouldnt be leaving John Wilson at 5/8 when prince is back, however he did play well yesterday and has been going well in reserves so a spot on the bench might be a good idea.

Very impressed with the way Kerr organised the boys and with prince adding that line breaking spark and second kicking option this combo has great potential.

Its simple for mine

6.Prince
7.Kerr
 

tiger_nick

Bench
Messages
2,972
Kerr is a natural number 7 and also an excellant organiser. I think Princes game will benfit to have another genuine half. Benji isn't one yet, Wilson isnt, Fitzy isnt and Reynolds was a good PL player who didnt produce in firsts. Buckets is back 100% but Satts is only 50/50 from what Ive heard.

1. Hodgson
2. Moodie
3. Halatau
4. Elford
5. Fitzhenry
6. Prince
7. Kerr
8. Payten
9. Senter
10. Skandalis
11. Laffranchi
12. O'Neil
13. Galea

14. Mears
15. Wilson
16. Heighinton
17. Gibbs

Also how good was it when Payten was taking the ball from the kickoff on the full and charging to the line! An awesome sight!! Great to see the big man start
 

yappy

Bench
Messages
4,161
Geeezuz skandofan

Next you'll be saying Freddy shouldn't play 5/8 for the Roosters because Flannery was the Qld 6. Prince is the Qld half for one reason only - everyone else is injured. If all the halves in the game were fit he'd no more be playing Origin than Finch. He is a very good little player, and his best spot is 5/8.

The great thing for the Tigers is that that is also the spot where you have the least options. Kerr has been turning in class performances in a poor side all season. He is a genuine no7. He will play half and Prince 5/8 (with Hodgo playing as a third half) no matter what number is on their jersey.

123&4 pick themselves. If Cov's nose is ok he will and should take the 5. If Satts is still out BG in 13 with Buckets and Boof in the Back Row. Senter will play 9 no matter what I say so Johnny the Greek and Payton partner him.

Fitzy is an enigma. He will do Mears as well as Robbie does himself though so he gets 14 and can fill any injuries other than prop and 2nd row. Gibbo, Rhino, and take your pick of the rest.
 

yappy

Bench
Messages
4,161
And as an aside isn't Keiran Kerr just another nail in the coffin of the merge the lower grade brigade? Sheens pumped for Reynolds and it was the Magpies that went after Keiran. Even when we aren't winning we can help just by having the extra places available.
 

Eddie.

Bench
Messages
4,188
Wow i really wouldnt agree with dropping mears yappy ( i think that is what your saying)

The guy has struggled in the past big time, but he is carving up at the moment, and him and Senter are striking up a good little combo. Mears is an out and out number 9 and fitzy is a very part time one. it is a tricky one fitzy would be handy as he can cover the backline as well as you say.

otherwise agree with everything you say, buckets to start, covell on the wing, prince to 5/8, fitzy gone for mine.
 

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