How NRL Clubs Lost A Staggering $42.7 Million

[Cumberland Throw]

Never understood how AFL clubs can count all the hotels, clubs that they own in their profit figure, but soon as an NRL club does it, they are the worst in the world...

this is the brisbane lions revenue ;

2. REVENUE
Sale of goods 1,229,832
Net AFL distributions 15,474,641
Membership and ticket sales 5,850,919
Corporate and marketing sales 11,796,071
Social Club revenue 15,797,708
Other revenue 866,637

Total Revenue 51,015,808

So Brisbane Lions can chuck in 15M in revenue from social club ie "pokies"

But soon as Canterbury talks about their $100M in revenue from social club, its not counted....

NRL clubs should just reports group results only... screw the footy club only shit

 

[txta2]

And Rothfield wants a salary cap on club spending...lmao

 

[Walt Flanigan]

if the Raiders NRL club is spending $5mill on Jnr RL in the region and is funded by the leagues club to achieve this then great. If the $5mill is effectively going out of the Jnr system to prop up a failing professional sports club then not so great. The devil is in the detail!

lol where do you pull that idea from?

 

[Pete Cash]

Lmao are you for real perth red. What are you talking about. The canberra raiders pump millions of dollars into rugby league in the local area. This means the club will from year to year show a loss on the balance books. However they are backed by the canberra raiders group to be able to do this. The majority of the losses arent from running the canberra raiders first grade side.

 

[The Great Dane]

Lmao are you for real perth red. What are you talking about. The canberra raiders pump millions of dollars into rugby league in the local area. This means the club will from year to year show a loss on the balance books. However they are backed by the canberra raiders group to be able to do this. The majority of the losses arent from running the canberra raiders first grade side.

Yeah if the Raiders stopped funding the CRRL then they'd be in the black, but then RL south of Sydney would go to shit because the NRL/ARLC vastly under finances it, so they've no choice either they pay for it or they watch the Brumbies/Vikings/ACT and Southern NSWRU or GWS/AFL pick up the slack.

The sad thing is that the money that they're spending on juniors could be being spent on marketing and developing our fan base, but instead it is being spent on keeping RL alive, so we're forced to sacrifice the Raiders being as big a club as it could be.

 

[Perth Red]

lol where do you pull that idea from?

NRL clubs annual reports. Take the NRL panthers club in financial year 13 they received $4.5million from leagues club funding and spent $652k on Jnr development. People seem to be mixing up the money the NRL club is spending on jnrs with the money that the leagues clubs are spending, they are not one and the same and in many cases leagues clubs are covering operating losses of NRL clubs and those losses have little to do with NRL club expenditure on jnrs.

Nothing wrong with leagues clubs deciding to chuck money at loss making NRL clubs as long as the leagues club doesn't struggle ala st's and sharks and you don't have a problem with money being diverted from leagues club community programs to the operation of professional sports clubs.

 

[Pete Cash]

In the case of the Raiders though quite a large chunk of those losses are from putting money into the region.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-10/canberra-raiders-play-down-$5.4-million-loss-in-2015/7155348

But Mr Furner said the rest of the financial loss came from running grassroots competitions and junior development.

Mr Furner said the Raiders were one of a handful of clubs managing local competitions as well as the first grade and under 20s teams.



"We've spent about $5 million every year on rugby league in this region," he said.

"This year we include all those costs in our accounts and we haven't done that every year, so that is not to run the Raiders, that's to run league in this region, referees, ground hire, insurances, coach education courses.

"In this region we're both the Canberra district rugby league and the Raiders."

 

[Chief_Chujo]

NRL clubs annual reports. Take the NRL panthers club in financial year 13 they received $4.5million from leagues club funding and spent $652k on Jnr development. People seem to be mixing up the money the NRL club is spending on jnrs with the money that the leagues clubs are spending, they are not one and the same and in many cases leagues clubs are covering operating losses of NRL clubs and those losses have little to do with NRL club expenditure on jnrs.

Nothing wrong with leagues clubs deciding to chuck money at loss making NRL clubs as long as the leagues club doesn't struggle ala st's and sharks and you don't have a problem with money being diverted from leagues club community programs to the operation of professional sports clubs.

Umm were technically just an extension of the queanbeyan leagues club so our responsibilities cover a 100k radius. But because, and its in our charter, we want to grow the game, we fund league for pretty much the entire area south of Sydney up to the border. We pour more money into league development then any other club when we have zero responsibility to do so. Shit up until our best junior since Daley was stolen we were funding a good part of QLD as well.
This idea that a leagues club should be seperate from an NRL team is f**ked as well. They should provide a pathway from the juniors to the elite.

Pretty much my point is, get f**ked, don't try paint my club as a leach on the game.

 

[SaraSassypants]

Leagues Clubs and Football clubs are not one and the same. Pretty soon the clubs are going to get sick and tired of propping up failing football teams. Just as St George leagues have slowly decreased their funding while other clubs have closed their doors for good. More will follow suit. Its foolish to dismiss this article entirely. We need our football clubs to sucessfully function idependantly. Look at EPL NBA and NFL. Great clubs have a brand that sells itself through merchandise and memberships. To suggest a leagues club grant makes spending ok is laughable.

 

[Perth Red]

Pretty much my point is, get f**ked, don't try paint my club as a leach on the game.

Never mentioned your club, I said some are taking big leagues club grants and not spending much of it on jnrs, like panthers.

It'd be much better if NRL clubs concentrated on being NRL clubs and left Jnr development and funding to the leagues clubs and NRL. Now NRL has squillions no reason they should not be filling this role.

Also if leagues clubs are giving raiders NRL club $5mill to spend on jnrs and they are spending $5mill on jnrs where is the loss coming from, can't be from spending on jnrs?

 

[Chief_Chujo]

It'd be much better if NRL clubs concentrated on being NRL clubs and left Jnr development and funding to the leagues clubs and NRL. Now NRL has squillions no reason they should not be filling this role.

So we leave jnr league funding to the QRLC and seperate them from the NRL. Why would they fund anyone outside of queanbeyan? The problem you have is disassociating the elite level from the juniors. A huge part of our game is tribalism and what youre suggesting would gut that. Do you even understand why the war was so damaging?
The finniest thing is, you rag on the ARLC at every opportunity, but now you want them to micromanage every part of the game? It's almost like you have an agenda lol

 

[Perth Red]

I want the state bodies to do their jobs with adequate funding by the NRL under one over arching strategy plan. I want the NRL clubs to concentrate on doing what they need to do to be growing professional top tier sports businesses. Leagues clubs have to justify their blight on the community so might as well use their ill gotten gains where they continue to exist to support grass roots. I see no reason for NRL clubs to be running Jnr RL outside of an elite under 18's set up they are directly responsible for.

Re tribalism, when games between two so called tribes are drawing less than 15k people I dont see a lot of evidence that it is that big a motivation.

 

[Perth Red]

Umm were technically just an extension of the queanbeyan leagues club so our responsibilities cover a 100k radius. But because, and its in our charter, we want to grow the game, we fund league for pretty much the entire area south of Sydney up to the border. We pour more money into league development then any other club when we have zero responsibility to do so. Shit up until our best junior since Daley was stolen we were funding a good part of QLD as well.
This idea that a leagues club should be seperate from an NRL team is f**ked as well. They should provide a pathway from the juniors to the elite.

Pretty much my point is, get f**ked, don't try paint my club as a leach on the game.

Just looked through the Raiders rugby league clubs annual reports and I see nothing coming from Canberra Raiders for Jnr RL, all of it is coming out of leagues clubs. Raiders losses are due to poor revenue from low ticket, membership and March sales not because they are spending the nrl's clubs revenue in Jnr RL.

 

[Last Week]

Surprised we haven't had perth red in here yet death riding the clubs lower on the list and telling us a perth club would run at a profit every year

Pretty close.

 

[bobmar28]

Merge the Panthers and Eels. Pay them 10 million for the merger.

 

[POPEYE]

Haven't read this thread but does the NRL fare better than A-league which is truly 'national'

 

[Vic Mackey]

Leagues Clubs and Football clubs are not one and the same. Pretty soon the clubs are going to get sick and tired of propping up failing football teams. Just as St George leagues have slowly decreased their funding while other clubs have closed their doors for good. More will follow suit. Its foolish to dismiss this article entirely. We need our football clubs to sucessfully function idependantly. Look at EPL NBA and NFL. Great clubs have a brand that sells itself through merchandise and memberships. To suggest a leagues club grant makes spending ok is laughable.

What crap. The clubs spend this amount of money BECAUSE of the grants they get from the Leagues Clubs. The DT love gullible readers like you. Ok without Russell Crowes millions Souths wouldn't be viable either. Plus they don't put any money back into their junior leagues like other clubs as Souths juniours look after that.

 

[taipan]

And Rothfield wants a salary cap on club spending...lmao

He needs a cap on his alcohol consumption.

 

[betcats]

Leagues Clubs and Football clubs are not one and the same. Pretty soon the clubs are going to get sick and tired of propping up failing football teams. Just as St George leagues have slowly decreased their funding while other clubs have closed their doors for good. More will follow suit. Its foolish to dismiss this article entirely. We need our football clubs to sucessfully function idependantly. Look at EPL NBA and NFL. Great clubs have a brand that sells itself through merchandise and memberships. To suggest a leagues club grant makes spending ok is laughable.

I guess every club will have to get a Hollywood superstar to pump money into the clubs when they need it and give them free marketing all over the world then lol

 

[Timmah]

Leagues Clubs and Football clubs are not one and the same. Pretty soon the clubs are going to get sick and tired of propping up failing football teams. Just as St George leagues have slowly decreased their funding while other clubs have closed their doors for good. More will follow suit. Its foolish to dismiss this article entirely. We need our football clubs to sucessfully function idependantly. Look at EPL NBA and NFL. Great clubs have a brand that sells itself through merchandise and memberships. To suggest a leagues club grant makes spending ok is laughable.

Nice enough idea but you speak from South Sydney's point of view. Private ownership by a millionaire actor, as nice as it would be, isn't on the table for the remaining 15 clubs.

Clubs like Parra and Canterbury are the biggest and most successful leagues clubs in Sydney and won't be going anywhere soon - and while they're there, they'll fund the associated football clubs to the hilt.

Not sure why you're quoting EPL either. The big clubs are successful but just like here in Australia - if you're not part of the big top group you're battling insolvency on the reg.