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[Frenzy.]

That's a load of shyte, the crowd booed the officials off.
If you were at the ground you'd know that.

But, but.....he heard it on the tele!!

 

[Frenzy.]

That's a load of shyte, the crowd booed the officials off.
If you were at the ground you'd know that.

BTW, how did you even make sense of that dribble? Looks like it was written with AI.

Artificial Idiocy

 

[shadowboxer]

That's a load of shyte, the crowd booed the officials off.
If you were at the ground you'd know that.

Maybe that’s what Andrew Johns said in commentary, so it is gospel

 

[Since 73]

Just gonna dump this here.

Do we score more points when sifas on the park?

Do we score very few points when captain Mcplod is on the park?

If brayley has such a gun running game where's it been for 3 years? Pretty sure 9s like Harry G, Cookie and wade Egan don't just save it up for flogs like St George. It's there every week. Put that in the list of mysteries about this side

Anybody notice the big 180 degrees in the 2nd half the other night coincided with tricky running the show?

 

[bad boy bubby]

Anybody notice the big 180 degrees in the 2nd half the other night coincided with tricky running the show?

No one noticed it because that is not true.
If you'd have said that "Tricky ran the last plays for the majority" this would have been true, but in no way did he run the whole show, just the final plays, which he did all game not just the second half.

Was Tricky more effective in the last plays? Absolutely. He kicked the ball 19 times compared to Hynes 8 times, and Tricky's kicks are a great deal better than Hynes.
But there is no way Tricky was running the game besides the last play, Hynes was. Obviously it was a tactic for the night for Trindall to take the last plays more than Hynes, which was a very good call.
Edit: and it isn't the first time this season that Tricky has been making the calls on the last, it's happened in a few games

 

[Since 73]

No one noticed it because that is not true.
If you'd have said that "Tricky ran the last plays for the majority" this would have been true, but in no way did he run the whole show, just the final plays, which he did all game not just the second half.

Was Tricky more effective in the last plays? Absolutely. He kicked the ball 19 times compared to Hynes 8 times, and Tricky's kicks are a great deal better than Hynes.
But there is no way Tricky was running the game besides the last play, Hynes was. Obviously it was a tactic for the night for Trindall to take the last plays more than Hynes, which was a very good call.

Pretty sure you're agreeing with me.

He who controls the kicking game controls the points on the field we attack or defend from. Whichever side controls this controls the momentum and generally the game.
Tricky took that on in the last 40 and there was 24 blot shut out.

 

[bad boy bubby]

Pretty sure you're agreeing with me.

He who controls the kicking game controls the points on the field we attack or defend from. Whichever side controls this controls the momentum and generally the game.
Tricky took that on in the last 40 and there was 24 blot shut out.

Your wording was just not correct, and you are wrong about it being only in the last 40. He was taking the last play for the majority in the first half as well.
Tricky's defence was terrible, 8 tackles made, 4 tackles missed.
Compared to Hynes, 17 tackles made, 1 missed tackle.

I'll counter this statement "Whichever side controls this controls the momentum and generally the game."
with
Defence wins matches.
I can play this game all night, and I'm not saying Hynes was good, he was average, but Tricky is not the golden child by a long stretch.
I'll leave you with this little piece of info: Tricky had our slowest play the ball speed at 4.98 secs, that is pathetic and not at an NRL standard. The next worst on our team was was Teigh Wilton at 3.77 secs.

 

[bad boy bubby]

Maybe that’s what Andrew Johns said in commentary, so it is gospel

If he did we all mostly know it would be a deflection away from his beloved Knights. One person yelled out "Pussies!" and yes the colour of a two cent coin went and had a word. His mates took him away soon after.

 

[Frenzy.]

No one noticed it because that is not true.
If you'd have said that "Tricky ran the last plays for the majority" this would have been true, but in no way did he run the whole show, just the final plays, which he did all game not just the second half.

Was Tricky more effective in the last plays? Absolutely. He kicked the ball 19 times compared to Hynes 8 times, and Tricky's kicks are a great deal better than Hynes.
But there is no way Tricky was running the game besides the last play, Hynes was. Obviously it was a tactic for the night for Trindall to take the last plays more than Hynes, which was a very good call.
Edit: and it isn't the first time this season that Tricky has been making the calls on the last, it's happened in a few games

You musta sensed a spread sheet coming. Tricky taking the last play AND doing most of the kicking has been happening for the last 6 games at least. I don't think it was part of any new plan for the Drags.

Analyse your hearts out!

Opposition	Kicker	Kicks	Meters
Dragons	Tricky	19	491
	Kleenex	8	197
Wahs	Tricky	12	430
	Kleenex	7	146
Rorters	Tricky	11	313
	Kleenex	4	179
Storms	Tricky	12	364
	Kleenex	2	46
Beagles	Tricky	12	372
	Kleenex	9	273
Eels	Tricky	18	598
	Kleenex	3	104

 

[bad boy bubby]

You musta sensed a spread sheet coming. Tricky taking the last play AND doing most of the kicking has been happening for the last 6 games at least. I don't think it was part of any new plan for the Drags.

Analyse your hearts out!

Opposition	Kicker	Kicks	Meters
Dragons	Tricky	19	491
	Kleenex	8	197
Wahs	Tricky	12	430
	Kleenex	7	146
Rorters	Tricky	11	313
	Kleenex	4	179
Storms	Tricky	12	364
	Kleenex	2	46
Beagles	Tricky	12	372
	Kleenex	9	273
Eels	Tricky	18	598
	Kleenex	3	104

Exactly.
The real reason as to why the 2nd half was better was because they just kept playing simple boring footy through the middle. They did it in the first half as well, just not as good or without those bad defensive reads/plays which let the Dargs in.
Brailey was our most effective attacking organiser.

 

[shadowboxer]

Exactly.
The real reason as to why the 2nd half was better was because they just kept playing simple boring footy through the middle. They did it in the first half as well, just not as good or without those bad defensive reads/plays which let the Dargs in.
Brailey was our most effective attacking organiser.

It always rings true, keep it simple

 

[Frenzy.]

Tricky's defence was terrible, 8 tackles made, 4 tackles missed.
Compared to Hynes, 17 tackles made, 1 missed tackle.

Beezlebub here

This is really nothing.

Over the same 6 weeks, looks like this. Halves always poll high in tackling errors as they all play with Targets on their heads. Just depends which one the opp decides to target most and the side they favour in a given game plan.

Opposition	Player	Missed tackles (NRL.com)	Ineffective tackles (NRL.com)	Total D errors
Dargons	Tricky	4	1	5
	Kleenex	1	1	2
Wahs	Tricky	2	0	2
	Kleenex	5	1	6
Cocks	Tricky	4	3	7
	Kleenex	0	0	0
Storms	Tricky	1	2	3
	Kleenex	1	3	4
Beagles	Tricky	1	1	2
	Kleenex	2	3	5
Eels	Tricky	3	0	3
	Kleenex	4	1	5
			BT NH	22 22

 

[Ozzi_78]

Nicho made 2 key tackles vs the dragons. One was a try saver the other a line break save when they were in a roll.

 

[Since 73]

Your wording was just not correct, and you are wrong about it being only in the last 40. He was taking the last play for the majority in the first half as well.
Tricky's defence was terrible, 8 tackles made, 4 tackles missed.
Compared to Hynes, 17 tackles made, 1 missed tackle.

I'll counter this statement "Whichever side controls this controls the momentum and generally the game."
with
Defence wins matches.
I can play this game all night, and I'm not saying Hynes was good, he was average, but Tricky is not the golden child by a long stretch.
I'll leave you with this little piece of info: Tricky had our slowest play the ball speed at 4.98 secs, that is pathetic and not at an NRL standard. The next worst on our team was was Teigh Wilton at 3.77 secs.

Bro...play the ball speed?

The list of whatevers before we get to that outlier of a stat..?

Ima say the team that holds the trophy up come early October will not have the fastest PTBS.
Maybe not even in the top 5.

They will be tough memtally and physically.
They will get off the line and hit in defence.
Their halfback will run the ball with gusto.
Blah
Blah
Blah

 

[Craigshark]

Bro...play the ball speed?

The list of whatevers before we get to that outlier of a stat..?

Ima say the team that holds the trophy up come early October will not have the fastest PTBS.
Maybe not even in the top 5.

They will be tough memtally and physically.
They will get off the line and hit in defence.
Their halfback will run the ball with gusto.
Blah
Blah
Blah

I’d say a quick play the ball is pretty crucial for a half to play on the front foot. The game is generally won by whoever controls the ruck better

 

[Since 73]

We're talking half a second here.

Not 2 minutes.

 

[bad boy bubby]

Beezlebub here

This is really nothing

Bro...play the ball speed

You both missed my real point.
I was posting stats not as an affirmative but as a way to skew a story.
I've hardly ever used stats as a tool as I open my eyes to all things going in, not just where a negative towards one player counts.
Since73 tried to make a case about Tricky being the dominant half and how it made a difference. He agreed about the last plays.
Tricky has not been very good for weeks now, yet not a word was heard, and yet he must have been the dominant half in those losses as he was also the last play maker, exactly the same as against the Dargs.

Get it now.

 

[bad boy bubby]

While I'm at it,
Tricky's kicking game was way better than what it has been.
In the first half he was generally on the left side. Against good teams they know to rush him and he needs to stop and prop when he goes to kick when it's the left side. Causing not the deepest kicks.
The other night he had way more time and his kicks were spot on, watch the first half, his kicks were good on the left. Dargs put little pressure on him.
2nd half he played a lot more on the right side, his kicking is naturally better on that side.
So tactics were used to benefit his skills, which in turn are better for the team.
We'll see over the next two weeks if he gets the same luxury in time.
As for Hynes? He still runs the main plays to get the team around, although Brailey seemed to take a bit more of that responsibility the other night. Hynes ran a few straight plays just to take the hut. Nothing major or minor in that, just a point to point play. A few weeks back he looked confident again, somewhere in the Wahs game it went, didn't look at all confident much the other night so his role was simple. His defence was not too bad.
Neither of our halves are world beaters, they have their days, and sometimes weeks of consistency, but at some point there's going to have to be some forced intervention if they don't start putting it together every week.