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Interesting Martyn article (was Marto selfish!)

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Martyn's farewell showed a lack of careBrendan McArdle
December 12, 2006

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DAMIEN Martyn's shock resignation is an embarrassment to Australian captain Ricky Ponting and the selection panel that recalled him to the Test team back in March. He has shown a total lack of appreciation for the lifeline he was given.
Rather than having breathing space until Shane Watson is fit, the selectors have now been forced into a back-flip on Andrew Symonds.
It also has been shown that the career of Brad Hodge has been thrown into turmoil to accommodate a bloke who apparently didn't really care.
From the moment Martyn was recalled to the one-day team in January, there has been an uneasy edge to his game.
Martyn has had the look of a miffed player seeking revenge, a player who was either taking the mickey out of the game or was determined to prove people wrong in his own way. In last season's one-day series, brilliant strokeplay was interspersed with one bizarre dismissal after another. Last Tuesday's puzzling cameo during the run chase in Adelaide said it all. On the way to one of his nation's most significant Test victories, Martyn decided to dance to his own tune.
His selection ahead of Hodge for the South African tour nine months ago was a devastating pill for the Victorian to swallow, given Hodge's double century only three Tests earlier. It was a decision apparently driven by Ponting, based purely on the belief that Martyn was the more likely of the two to influence an important series. It was also followed by the resignation of Trevor Hohns as chairman of selectors.
The skipper's judgement was vindicated by Martyn's matchwinning century in Johannesburg, and by his form at the recent Champions Trophy, but now Ponting must feel that his loyalty, to some extent, has been betrayed.
There are two myths about Martyn that need to be exploded. One is that he was the sacrificial lamb whose career was put on hold after an indiscreet shot against South Africa in Sydney in 1994. It could not be further from the truth.
After beginning as a precocious 21-year-old talent against the West Indies in the 1992-93 Australian season, Martyn was then left out of 11 of Australia's next 12 Tests. He didn't play in the 1993 Ashes series, and didn't appear in the three Tests that preceded the South African Tests of 1993-94.
When axed after two Tests against the Proteas in which he had made eight, 59 and six, his record stood at seven Tests for 317 runs at an average of 28. Some poor lamb.
The second myth is about his misfortune in last year's Ashes series. The truth is that he copped two bad leg-before decisions because he refused to get forward to England's on-song pace bowlers.
Faced with the first example of challenging bowling that he and his teammates had confronted in years, his technique and temperament were laid bare. He lost his appetite for the fight, as he did in Adelaide last week, and he and others quite rightly paid the price when they returned home.
Martyn was a wonderful player for a four-year period from about 2001 onwards. He had forced his way back into international prominence through consistently good one-day performances. In Tests, he was brilliant against Muthiah Muralidaran in Sri Lanka, he was the rock upon which our batting was based in the memorable win in India, and he played sublimely in the 2001 Ashes series.
It was apparent last year in England that Martyn had lost his nerve. It became increasingly difficult to accept that he deserved a place while others were crying out for a chance. No one would have known that more than Martyn.
Sometimes cricket throws up players such as Darren Lehmann, who give an overwhelming impression that the game is richer for their presence. In Martyn's case, there will always be a mix of admiration and hollowness.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/columns/martyns-farewell-showed-a-lack-of-care/2006/12/11/1165685616344.html
 
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lockyno1 said:
Martyn's farewell showed a lack of care
Brendan McArdle
December 12, 2006

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DAMIEN Martyn's shock resignation is an embarrassment to Australian captain Ricky Ponting and the selection panel that recalled him to the Test team back in March. He has shown a total lack of appreciation for the lifeline he was given.
Rather than having breathing space until Shane Watson is fit, the selectors have now been forced into a back-flip on Andrew Symonds.
It also has been shown that the career of Brad Hodge has been thrown into turmoil to accommodate a bloke who apparently didn't really care.
From the moment Martyn was recalled to the one-day team in January, there has been an uneasy edge to his game.
Martyn has had the look of a miffed player seeking revenge, a player who was either taking the mickey out of the game or was determined to prove people wrong in his own way. In last season's one-day series, brilliant strokeplay was interspersed with one bizarre dismissal after another. Last Tuesday's puzzling cameo during the run chase in Adelaide said it all. On the way to one of his nation's most significant Test victories, Martyn decided to dance to his own tune.
His selection ahead of Hodge for the South African tour nine months ago was a devastating pill for the Victorian to swallow, given Hodge's double century only three Tests earlier. It was a decision apparently driven by Ponting, based purely on the belief that Martyn was the more likely of the two to influence an important series. It was also followed by the resignation of Trevor Hohns as chairman of selectors.
The skipper's judgement was vindicated by Martyn's matchwinning century in Johannesburg, and by his form at the recent Champions Trophy, but now Ponting must feel that his loyalty, to some extent, has been betrayed.
There are two myths about Martyn that need to be exploded. One is that he was the sacrificial lamb whose career was put on hold after an indiscreet shot against South Africa in Sydney in 1994. It could not be further from the truth.
After beginning as a precocious 21-year-old talent against the West Indies in the 1992-93 Australian season, Martyn was then left out of 11 of Australia's next 12 Tests. He didn't play in the 1993 Ashes series, and didn't appear in the three Tests that preceded the South African Tests of 1993-94.
When axed after two Tests against the Proteas in which he had made eight, 59 and six, his record stood at seven Tests for 317 runs at an average of 28. Some poor lamb.
The second myth is about his misfortune in last year's Ashes series. The truth is that he copped two bad leg-before decisions because he refused to get forward to England's on-song pace bowlers.
Faced with the first example of challenging bowling that he and his teammates had confronted in years, his technique and temperament were laid bare. He lost his appetite for the fight, as he did in Adelaide last week, and he and others quite rightly paid the price when they returned home.
Martyn was a wonderful player for a four-year period from about 2001 onwards. He had forced his way back into international prominence through consistently good one-day performances. In Tests, he was brilliant against Muthiah Muralidaran in Sri Lanka, he was the rock upon which our batting was based in the memorable win in India, and he played sublimely in the 2001 Ashes series.
It was apparent last year in England that Martyn had lost his nerve. It became increasingly difficult to accept that he deserved a place while others were crying out for a chance. No one would have known that more than Martyn.
Sometimes cricket throws up players such as Darren Lehmann, who give an overwhelming impression that the game is richer for their presence. In Martyn's case, there will always be a mix of admiration and hollowness.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/columns/martyns-farewell-showed-a-lack-of-care/2006/12/11/1165685616344.html

What a sh*t article.

Ponting was no better at the same point in his career. Everyone knows that the selectors over-reacted in axing martyn.

Martyn lost his nerve in England?? he guided australia to a win in the first test, and was given out twice after smashing the ball off his bat into his pad.
 

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I do agree with one point. Martyn didn't help himself by refusing to play the Poms off the front foot in the Ashes.
 

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Well I actually think it is a fairly good read. He raises some good points and I don't find it a particularly "bias" read. Puts his points accross well. Looking at it you would have to agree. Martyn was picked becuase he was the best no4 for this Ashes campaign, and the reality is he retired not even halfway through the series. That was a bad call from the selectors!
 

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Wasn't Martyn dropped after that sydney test against south africa and a previously injured steve waugh came back into the side and he scored a big hundred at adelaide?
 

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Without checking cricinfo, I'm pretty certain that Martyn came into the side for an injured Steve Waugh for the Melbourne Boxing Day test, Waugh wasn't fit for Sydney, Martyn held his spot, Waugh was fit for Adelaide and came back into the side, scored 160+.

I think the reasons for Martyn being dropped are part urban myth.
 

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just checked, he made 8 at the boxing day test, 59 and 6 at Sydney, Stever Waugh returned and made 164.

Taylor, Slater, Boon, M Waugh Border made up the rest of the top 6.....so not sure Martyn was ever going to hold his spot....
 
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lockyno1 said:
Well I actually think it is a fairly good read. He raises some good points and I don't find it a particularly "bias" read. Puts his points accross well. Looking at it you would have to agree. Martyn was picked becuase he was the best no4 for this Ashes campaign, and the reality is he retired not even halfway through the series. That was a bad call from the selectors!

Bad call from the selectors??? How were they to know Marto was going to retire? He was clearly the best option at number 4 for australia this summer considering his form on the last SA tour and the champions trophy.
 
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fish eel said:
just checked, he made 8 at the boxing day test, 59 and 6 at Sydney, Stever Waugh returned and made 164.

Taylor, Slater, Boon, M Waugh Border made up the rest of the top 6.....so not sure Martyn was ever going to hold his spot....

he should of held a spot above Mark Waugh
 

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Bad call from the selectors??? How were they to know Marto was going to retire? He was clearly the best option at number 4 for australia this summer considering his form on the last SA tour and the champions trophy.

Hodge would have been better. Poor call by the selectors. As for his form in the SA tour, apart from the one hundred what else did he do, he failed against Bangladesh as well.
 
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lockyno1 said:
Waugh is a better fieldsman and saves 20-30 runs a innings, he is a must for every side!

How does a slips feildsman save 20-30 runs an innings????

he may have taken some decent catches (definately didnt take a screamer every innings) but whos to say that the person who feilded in those positions would have also taken those catches?

He was in the side for his batting and he was not as good a batsmen as Marto - simple.

Australia had plenty of capable replacements in the slips cordin
 

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Actually in the early 90's he was barely at slip as you had Taylor at 1st and Border at 2nd usually. Waugh fielded in a number of positions, sometimes in the slips, somtimes in the covers/midwicket area.
 
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lockyno1 said:
Actually in the early 90's he was barely at slip as you had Taylor at 1st and Border at 2nd usually. Waugh fielded in a number of positions, sometimes in the slips, somtimes in the covers/midwicket area.

Wherever he feilded, there is no way he saved 20-30 runs per innings. He was a good catcher, but so were most of the Australian team.
 

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waltzing Meninga said:
Wherever he feilded, there is no way he saved 20-30 runs per innings. He was a good catcher, but so were most of the Australian team.

you dont understand locky's logic

Mark waugh caught them out before they made a further 20 or 30 runs
 

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