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Is the game becoming a sport for sheilas and twinkies?

TheRam

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What a bunch of idiots. Ignore the ruck debacle and ban excitement.

Hindy111 your an offensive turd. It's not 1950 mate, wake up to yourself.
 

Gary Gutful

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Nothing, just like there is nothing wrong with a shoulder charge. If they did a study on ball and all tackles i bet there are more incidents of them going wrong and hitting the head than there are with shoulder charges...

Sorry I was talking from the perspective of a coach rather than commenting on whether they create more or less incidents. Too many shoulder charges are ineffective purely as a defensive play.

Don't necessarily disagree re: the relative dangers compared to a normal tackle. I just don't get a hard on for them as I see them costing the defensive team more often than they lift them (witness Sandow).
 
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:lol:

Get stuck in Ram. I must admit when I saw the title of the thread I did think "I didn't know Alf Stewart posted here".

Nah, it was Ted Bulpitt. To be fair to Hindy111, the original title was that of a documentary on SBS a couple of years back, which plotted the history of soccer in Aust. Unnecessary I know, but a bit less so in context.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Nah, it was Ted Bulpitt. To be fair to Hindy111, the original title was that of a documentary on SBS a couple of years back, which plotted the history of soccer in Aust. Unnecessary I know, but a bit less so in context.

And it wasn't just women and homosexuals either, though Mediterranean Descendants have been some of our best players for several decades now.

So ever since Ian Roberts came out we've had no right singling soccer out. Obviously women will never play in the NRL because they would have to miss a week every month. Just like Ben Smith.
 

Suitman

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There was also this biography of Johnny Warren.

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born an eel

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fantastic, Sandow might as well stand on the sideline in defence now if he cannot shoulder charge, because that is all he has got in defence. He cant tackle....
actually it will make him more effective, next time he tries to shoulder charge Inglis the ref will have to stop play and call a penalty, giving us time to set a defensive line.
 

hindy111

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Glad to see use finaly got the joke - lol -Like your style barryspeedwagon and suitman.
As far as beeing offensive man up .I get called a Mediterranean Descendant every second day of the week.lol
a tight one at that : )
 

eels81236

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Glad to see use finaly got the joke - lol -Like your style barryspeedwagon and suitman.
As far as beeing offensive man up .I get called a Mediterranean Descendant every second day of the week.lol
a tight one at that : )

A jewish Mediterranean Descendant?
 

guruminga

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...arge-to-get-boot/story-e6freuy9-1226295469944

Give shoulder charge boot



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SEEING STARS: A dazed David Simmons is helped from the field after a heavy knock from Frank Pritchard. Picture: Getty Images
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THE shoulder charge will soon go the way of the spear tackle in rugby league.

Canterbury's Frank Pritchard was suspended this week for one game over his big hit on Penrith's David Simmons, with the shoulder-on-head impact leaving the Panthers forward so concussed he cannot play in round 2.
Player welfare is a bigger and bigger issue, with players mindful of the long-term consequences of repeated concussions.
We have to move with the times.
It might not be intentional to knock a player out with a shoulder charge, but the spear tackle was rubbed out of the game through repeated suspensions, some quite hefty.
Lifting tackles of any kind have been viewed closely for years by referees and the match review committee. Players rarely make a miscalculation these days.

Fans do love seeing the physical contact of shoulder charges.
I am told Chris Close - who has a love of the game so strong no one should doubt his motives on an issue like this - went on Twitter when he heard of the charge against Pritchard, writing that "big hits front on with arms down ... that's what brings them through the gate. Leave the game as is".
Choppy isn't alone there.
What I'd say to that is Tonie Carroll was someone the fans loved to see tackle. We won't lose much in our game by the outlawing of shoulder charges.
You didn't see TC hit someone in the head with his shoulder too often - he would aim to drive his shoulder into the rib cage. It's what we need to encourage rather than shoulder charges.
Pritchard is a tall man. His shoulder is going to be, at impact, where some players' heads are. If he is leading with a shoulder charge, he is a good chance to knock someone out, as he did last Saturday.
It's a grey area and I can see it coming soon that the shoulder charge is banned.
Shoulder charges are illegal in rugby union. It's a matter of when, not if, the same applies to our game.

STARS SHINE
THE stars showed in round 1 why they are paid like stars.
The round also demonstrated how close the race will be this year.
Billy Slater soared high to grab a match-winning catch of a bomb in Canberra and Benji Marshall kicked a golden-point field goal.
The Roosters and Canterbury won games after being behind into the last 10 minutes. Jamie Soward got the Dragons home with a one-pointer after 80 minutes.
I have long been a supporter of extra time.
One idea the NRL should consider is wins have to be by more than one point.
A penalty goal might win games, but slowing down play needs to be discouraged.

Lockyer called it at the beginning of the season.

G
 

Sphagnum

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Does this now mean if a player shoulder charges (intentionally, or accidentally) that the player will be personally liable for any serious injury caused to the opponent?

Is this just the NRL indemnifying themselves against any claims arising from a shoulder charge gone wrong?

The players should boycott until the rule gets changed back. Retreating defenders are always susceptible to an accidental shoulder charge when trying to make a tackle on a rampaging forward hitting the ball up. If the subsequent scans of said rampager reveal an issue, they'll be off to the barrister to sue the unlucky bastard who hit them.

This would be a non issue if the NRL hadn't changed the rule.
 
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Does this now mean if a player shoulder charges (intentionally, or accidentally) that the player will be personally liable for any serious injury caused to the opponent?

Only to the same extent that they would be liable for damages arising from any other illegal tackle (attacking the head, tripping, grappling, KFC etc). And basically any shoulder charges that were likely to cause significant injury were already illegal because they attacked the head of the defender. I don't think you are going to see a rush of litigation here.
 

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