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Jesse Bromwich & Kevin Proctor allegedly purchase cocaine after last nights game.

Stormwarrior82

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The argument isn't ridiculous at all. The NRLs sanction may or may not have been ridiculous. But when they handed it down, they drew the line in the sand.



Really? What exactly are these standards? If they had standards in place, then the players would be banned for X number of weeks. No ifs, no buts, no maybes.



They make no mistakes, because they make no decisions. And it's why fans walk away from the game in droves.

Understand this - you are the one with the bias in this, because you are the one that supports the team that have failed, spectacularly, to hand out an adequate punishment.

You cannot for a single second think that neither Proctor not Bromwich can't remember what they did. If they were as drunk as they claim, so drunk they can't remember, then the liquor licensing board should be charging the nightclub involved with serving intoxicated patrons. We all know it's garbage.

The Roosters have stood SKD down indefinitely. The Titans have stood down Proctor for 4 weeks. Ask Corey Norman how he feels about his 8 week ban. And here we have Melbourne standing a player down for 2. It reeks.

Well since 09 there has been the formation of the Arlc, 3 different Nrl CEOs, 3 tv deals and plenty of policies and procedures put in place when smith took over. If you think the line in the sand was in 09, that's your stupid problem.

It's not as easy as just banning a player the same for every indiscretion. That's just rediculous. Plenty of ifs, plenty of bits and plenty of maybes.

I can see how you think they make no mistakes. The ceos at that time don't feel they do make mistakes but you have to see that by current suspensions and punishments standards prove that the Stewart punishment in 09 was harsh. And they have fixed that from happening again.

Yes I'm a storm supporter. And I feel that the Nrl should give browmich another 2 weeks to match proctor. I'm fine with that. They should get the same penalty unless there is more to it. But I don't think the punishment is that light at all. Browmich will miss 2 nrl games which seems light but don't forget he will miss 6 World Cup games ($100k). 8 weeks total. That is a pretty harsh penalty in my eyes. If you dont think so that's fine too. Browmich didn't get caught with the drugs, or get filmed performing a sex act or consorting with known criminals but hey I'm sure Norman would be feeling hard done by.

Whether you feel browmich or proctors excuse is garbage or not is complete heresay because no one but them would know the real answer, so stop pretending you do. They have accepted the punishment so why would they need to lie about that?

And the roosters have stood down skd because that have an out to get rid of a highly paid player for tedesco. And L Mitchell in the wings.
 

Jerkwad2000

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And the roosters have stood down skd because that have an out to get rid of a highly paid player for tedesco.

The guy who is off contract at the end of the year anyway? Pretty sure they don't have to pay him after that.

or get filmed performing a sex act

Consentual and not illegal

consorting with known criminals

Again, last I looked, not illegal.

Whether you feel browmich or proctors excuse is garbage or not is complete heresay because no one but them would know the real answer, so stop pretending you do

Oh look - an ostrich. I wonder when it will pull its head out of the sand.

It's not as easy as just banning a player the same for every indiscretion. That's just rediculous. Plenty of ifs, plenty of bits and plenty of maybes.

Actually, yes it is. Look at ASADA. You get caught taking a banned substance, it's 2 years. No ifs. buts or maybes. An organisation with any credibility would set the penalties in place. But the NRL has none.

Anyway, that's my last comment on this. There is no point in this conversation because you clearly refuse to accept what everyone else knows, and that is that they are guilty of what they are accused of. If they weren't, they would go the SKD route and offer to have a hair follicle sample test. You can keep your head in the sand, keep your blinkers on, keep your eyes closed, whatever you need to do so you don't see or accept the truth. The rest of us are happy knowing the truth, and knowing that the penalty is piss weak, just like the NRL.
 

carcharias

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So one bloke gets 4 weeks for snorting coke off a drug dealers phone
The bloke sitting next to him gets 2 weeks for snorting the line next to it off the same phone

...and cops have CCTV footage of the whole thing

Hmmmm

Sounds pretty much like the storm are taking the piss.
 

Nice Beaver

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So one bloke gets 4 weeks for snorting coke off a drug dealers phone
The bloke sitting next to him gets 2 weeks for snorting the line next to it off the same phone

...and cops have CCTV footage of the whole thing

Hmmmm

Sounds pretty much like the storm are taking the piss.

Shhhh

You clearly don't understand the complexities of the situation.

Stormgimp82 will be along shortly to set you on the right path.
 

Stormwarrior82

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The guy who is off contract at the end of the year anyway? Pretty sure they don't have to pay him after that.



Consentual and not illegal



Again, last I looked, not illegal.



Oh look - an ostrich. I wonder when it will pull its head out of the sand.



Actually, yes it is. Look at ASADA. You get caught taking a banned substance, it's 2 years. No ifs. buts or maybes. An organisation with any credibility would set the penalties in place. But the NRL has none.

Anyway, that's my last comment on this. There is no point in this conversation because you clearly refuse to accept what everyone else knows, and that is that they are guilty of what they are accused of. If they weren't, they would go the SKD route and offer to have a hair follicle sample test. You can keep your head in the sand, keep your blinkers on, keep your eyes closed, whatever you need to do so you don't see or accept the truth. The rest of us are happy knowing the truth, and knowing that the penalty is piss weak, just like the NRL.

Sexual act was consensual but a sex tape is a bad look.

Consorting with criminals (Bikie gangs) is actually illegal.

Are you are saying that drugs, sexual assaults and other indiscretions should be punished the same? That's rediculous.

Yes in most sports if you have a banned substance in your system you get an automatic 2 yrs. in almost every sporting code is different to that. Barba gets 12 weeks suspension then goes and plays rugby. Clearly by your rules rugby is worse than the nrl then?. Now asada is independent, so maybe they have gone and tested proctor or browmich. Who knows? Taking it and having it in your system when being tested by asada are 2 different things. Athletes all over the world take drugs but all we know about are the ones that have it in there system at the time of the testing.

I'm actually glad that was your last comment. I have accepted some of your points but you continue to dismiss mine. I feel 8 weeks, loss of nz captaincy and $120k is a fair punishment. But I can accept you think they both should get 2 yrs. let's just agree to disagree.
 
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carcharias

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Wouldn't doing blow off drug dealers phone you just bought it off be classified as consorting with criminals?
 

Stormwarrior82

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Wouldn't doing blow off drug dealers phone you just bought it off be classified as consorting with criminals?

Well that's a good point. I'm no lawyer but i believe it was for consorting with "known criminals" and the law was in regard to bikies and Bikie gangs. Im happy to be told otherwise.
 

Nice Beaver

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Can't add anything of subsatnace so resort to insult?? Do you act like this at home when someone doesn't agree with you?

Subsatnace sounds painful so I'd rather not.

Reasoning with the likes of you is completely futile, so I'll just laugh at you instead.

As you were.
 
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So one bloke gets 4 weeks for snorting coke off a drug dealers phone
The bloke sitting next to him gets 2 weeks for snorting the line next to it off the same phone

...and cops have CCTV footage of the whole thing

Hmmmm

Sounds pretty much like the storm are taking the piss.

I thought ASADA took the piss!?!

Oh, this is getting messy.
 

Jerkwad2000

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But I can accept you think they both should get 2 yrs. let's just agree to disagree

Sorry, but I had to come back to reply to this. Where, anywhere, in any comment have I said that I think they should get 2 years? Nowhere. In fact, nowhere have I said they should get anything more than 4 weeks. I stated right from the start that the NRL set the line in the sand with the Stewart decision, rightly or wrongly. I am fully behind the sanction of the Titans for Proctor of 4 weeks plus a fine plus community service enforced by the club. What the NZRL them impose is up to them. It has nothing to do with the clubs nor nothing to do with the NRL. What I disagree with, and have from the start and will continue to do so, is the poor, 2 week ban handed out by Melbourne, and the lack of action from the NRL.

I suggest you go back and actually read all of my posts, because I have been very consistent. Line. Sand. 4 weeks.
 

The_Shield

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I love how people have gotten their knickers in a knot over how Bromwichs punishment isn't as long as the likes of Norman and Pearce etc. They have a history of stuff ups, this is Bromwichs first.
2 weeks is more then fair.

Let's be honest here, people are only upset Bromwich got 2 weeks is because he plays for Melbourne. I bet if he played for anyone else nobody would care (except maybe the Broncos)
 

Perth Red

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He's got two weeks and a World Cup. If he had tested positive he would have got zero for a first offence. The problem is not in two weeks or four weeks, it's in lack of nrl direction and consistency.
 

carcharias

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He's got two weeks and a World Cup. If he had tested positive he would have got zero for a first offence. The problem is not in two weeks or four weeks, it's in lack of nrl direction and consistency.

I don't think the amount of times they got busted is the issue.

The whole straight after a test match with it all on captured on video is a bit of an issue

That in itself should be enough for the NRL to crack it.

Blokes get the same for touching a ref by accident.

It does make you wonder what's been going on down in Melbourne though.
 

POPEYE

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I don't think the amount of times they got busted is the issue.

The whole straight after a test match with it all on captured on video is a bit of an issue

That in itself should be enough for the NRL to crack it.

Blokes get the same for touching a ref by accident.

It does make you wonder what's been going on down in Melbourne though.
It is a worry, you think Dank has spread his tentacles further than Cronulla and Essendon?
 

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