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John Sattler's jersey in eBay mystery

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...-in-ebay-mystery/story-e6frexnr-1226077366099



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For sale: The ad on eBay. Source: The Daily Telegraph



EVERY year, when the final game was done, John Sattler always gave his jersey away.

Walked out of Redfern Oval, or the SCG after those brutal grand finals, and simply handed another hooped treasure to whichever young kid was first to ask for it.

"I thought it was the right thing to do," Sattler recalls now from his Gold Coast home. "Did it every year, too, except for 1970, which is when I suffered the broken jaw and, afterwards, was taken straight to hospital in my playing gear.

"I remember it well because the doctors, they were gunna cut the jersey straight off me until I said no. Who knows why? But as a result it's been the only one I ever kept."

So how, then, does rugby league's most iconic jumper, the only one Satts ever kept, wind up on eBay?


How does this unmistakable No. 13 - all ripped Rabbitohs logo and Sattler claret embedded into its very fibres - get offered up by someone operating under the moniker "Pezlan" for an opening bid of $30,000? Or, if you have the cash and want to stop the auction immediately, $55,000?

"I have no idea," Sattler says. "I've been given the shock of my life hearing this.

"I'm told there's something that accompanies it on eBay saying I've signed two letters of authenticity. Mate, that's lies - I haven't signed anything. I guess it just reconfirms that there are some real ordinary buggers out there."

Patient, too.

See, Sattler's 1970 jersey has been missing - presumed dead - ever since it was stolen from Sydney memorabilia company Blazed In Glory, owned and operated by Michael Halpin, back in 2001. After working with Sattler on some memorabilia pieces, the businessman offered to frame his jersey as a "thank you".

So the Kangaroo great mailed the jersey to son Scott, who was playing at the time with Penrith. Scott Sattler knew Halpin reasonably well, too - having visited his son when he was bedridden for months following an operation - and so personally delivered the jersey to Halpin's west Sydney warehouse.

When the Panthers back-rower went to collect the piece, he was told the frame had broken and the glass panel smashed. It would need to be redone, Halpin said. When Sattler returned a second time, however, he was told the jersey was missing. Stolen.

Ironically, in February last year Michael and Loretta Halpin appeared in the Supreme Court claiming cricket bats autographed by Don Bradman and football jerseys signed by league greats including Peter Sterling and Brad Fittler were among items stolen by burglars who twice broke into their west Sydney home in 2006 and again in 2008.

There was no mention of a robbery in 2001. The Supreme Court heard that when the Halpins, who had insured the memorabilia for $1 million, tried to claim, Lumley General Insurance denied it. The case was eventually settled out of court, with both parties signing confidentiality agreements.

There is no suggestion of wrongdoing by the Halpins.

All the while, Sattler's jersey stayed missing. Until now.

According to a statement accompanying the jersey auction on eBay, it was purchased years ago from an elderly couple who'd won it in a 1973 auction at Souths Leagues Club. The first letter from John confirms this, it claims.

The owner also claims to have obtained a second letter from Sattler "after a newspaper incorrectly reported it stolen". It finishes saying the sale is necessary to inject funds into a business, which may be the only truth existing anywhere on the page.
 

boo_boo

Juniors
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Our club is so enshrined in the history of the game that we deserve our own Museum where iconic memorabilia this Satt's jersey could be held for prosperity's sake.
 

Honkiest_Honky

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Where are those pawnstar experts when you need them? That jersey needs to authenticated and either way the dude selling the jumper should locked up.
 

Captain BF

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There seems to be a lot of inconsistancies in either the newspaper story or the eBay ad.
The listing is as follows:


This is one of the most famous Rugby League jerseys:


JOHN SATTLER’S 1970 SOUTH SYDNEY JERSEY


WORN BY JOHN IN THE GRAND FINAL


This is the Grand Final against Manly that John had his jaw broken early and played out the game to lead Souths to a 23-12 win.


The jersey has stains and collar torn, as expected from a jersey that is 40 years old and was worn all season.


John has signed on the collar.


The jersey comes with two letters of authenticity from John – one date 18/11/99 and a second dated 15/1/02.


I purchased the jersey many years ago from an elderly couple who had bought the jersey at Souths’ Leagues Club in a 1973 auction. The first letter from John confirms this.


I obtained a second letter from John after a newspaper incorrectly reported that it was stolen. It was in fact John’s 1971 jersey that was not returned from a company who were to frame the jersey.


This is a very regrettable sale of my most prized possession. Unfortunately I need the funds to inject into my business.


The price reflects what I am willing to part with the jersey for. If not sold for at least this price I will continue to hold it.




In the newspaper story, Sattler claims it was his 1970 jersey that was not returned from the memorabilia company and the ebay seller claims it was Sattlers 1971 jersey that has been lost. I personally have less trouble believing Sattler than i do some random ebayer. I hope that if it is Sattlers jersey, Crowe or Holmes-a-court buy it and give it back to Satts or have it on display at Souths Leagues.
 
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Big Sam

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Leaving aside the mystery behind the jersey and the usual trolling that occurs from parasitic opposition supporters, I completely agree with Boo Boo's idea of a Souths museum.

Surely there's enough room at the unfinished Leagues Club to set aside for a collection of historic items? And how fantastic would it be to have it located in our spiritual heartland right across the road from some of our greatest moments? Some former players may have to be willing to donate some of their personal items to the collection, otherwise the club might have to dig in and buy it off them. We could include the Bell that Russell bought and got rung at the SFS before our first game back in '02. And what about having a trophy room showcasing all 20 premierships?

Just on that I've been living in Europe these last few months and have recently toured some of the bigger football clubs' (ie Barcelona, Liverpool) museums. The focal point of their collection is the trophy room. I'm curious - where are all our trophies now exactly? I realise that at the time of winning the premierships, the winning club's plaque would just have been added to the Giltinan Shield but surely the clubs were given a replica or some other trophy by the NSWRL at that time. Where would all ours be now?
 

boo_boo

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More to the point would the silverware be a part of the $ 3 million that Rusty & HaC paid when they bought 75% of our club ?
If it is then it's a very sad reflection on how poorly our clubs history is valued if money can buy all that represents our achievements as the South Sydney District Football Club when at our owners discretion we are now known as the South Sydney Football Club.
Some things in life are just to precious to put a monetary value on.
 

Galactaphonic

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Back to the jersey in question. If you look at the picture on ebay the rabbit is in a different position to the one on John Sattler's jersey after the 1970 grand final.

The whole thing seems a little sus. I think this is the 1971 jersey and it has been tampered with to look like the 1970 jersey.
 

themacemaceman

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Maybe we could get some Satts DNA and match it to the blood on the jumper? This jumper is a bigger historical artifact than the shroud of Turin or Azeria chamberlains matinee jacket.
 

hennessy

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Our club is so enshrined in the history of the game that we deserve our own Museum where iconic memorabilia this Satt's jersey could be held for prosperity's sake.

The proposed Leagues Club opposite Redfern Oval was supposed to include a 'Hall of fame' or something similar
 

themacemaceman

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Firstly, what's with all the racist comments guys? Is it really necessary? How can some of you call yourself the people's team then start alienating different races and cultures?

Secondly, it is a disgrace if the jersey turns out to in fact be real. It is one of the most iconic images of our game and should be returned to Sattler immediately. Hope whoever has it gets prosecuted too.

What comments were you referring too? There was only one poster that mentioned boat people and Irishman but I didn't think that was racist .. And even if It is what has that got to do with souths being Pride of the league. Some people come on here just looking for a fight. f**k off back to your own teams forum.
 
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What comments were you referring too? There was only one poster that mentioned boat people and Irishman but I didn't think that was racist .. And even if It is what has that got to do with souths being Pride of the league. Some people come on here just looking for a fight. f**k off back to your own teams forum.

There was a racist comment that has been deleted.
 

boo_boo

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The proposed Leagues Club opposite Redfern Oval was supposed to include a 'Hall of fame' or something similar

That's correct hennessy and i think it's a disgrace that the owners / management of our club hasn't done anything about it.
I have heard various reports on Leagues Clubs progress but it's the details about why it's taken so long is what really concern me.
 
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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...g-jersey-letters/story-e6frexnr-1226080254604





Stolen: John Sattler wearing the iconic jersey. Source: The Daily Telegraph



RABBITOHS great John Sattler has declared that two signed letters - both of which claim he gave away his 1970 grand final jersey - were not penned by him.

The mystery surrounding Sattler's stolen South Sydney jumper last night took its fifth twist in as many days when The Daily Telegraph obtained a pair of documents allegedly signed by the Bunnies legend.

Provided by HWL Ebsworth Lawyers, the letters belong to a mystery Sydneysider who insists the jersey he was auctioning on eBay for $30,000 is the real deal.

According to the documents, the iconic jumper was bought at auction by long-time Souths fans Deiter and Hanna Weyrauch - who Sattler confirms he knew.

The letters add weight to the theory that there are, in fact, two jerseys purported to be the famed 1970 jumper.

The first was in Sattler's possession until stolen in 2000. The second was bought by the Weyrauch family and then, via Sports Memorabilia Australia, sold to the current owner.


There is no suggestion the current owner had any idea the jumper he bought may not have been the bona fide jersey.

The first letter, dated November 18, 1999, states: "The South Sydney jumper ... is the

jumper I was wearing at the 1970 grand final, which Souths won. It has my signature on the collar.

"I donated the jumper to the South Sydney Club in 1973 and it was auctioned at Redfern Oval the same year."

The second letter, more than two years later, claims a report by The Daily Telegraph from December 2001 suggesting the jersey was stolen is false. It states: "That lost jersey was in fact from the 1971 grand final.

"I apologise for any concern this has caused you and I hope this clears up any confusion and settles the authenticity regarding your jersey."

Yet Sattler last night said he had never signed any document relating to the 1970 jersey worn when he famously broke his jaw against Manly.

That top, he maintained, was stolen from Sydney memorabilia company Blazed In Glory in 2000.

"Never signed anything - never, ever," Sattler said last night. "And I'm starting to get a little sick of the whole thing.

"There is no way I would sign anything regarding the 1970 jersey. There was no way I ever got rid of it. I've put my signature on to so many things over the years ... but as for what you're telling me, I wouldn't have a clue."

The Sattlers this week provided a photograph showing Jack Sattler - the Kangaroo great's grandson - holding up the jersey shortly before his father, Scott, handed it over to be framed.

It hasn't been seen since.

Lawyers for the eBay seller, known only as Peter, say their client is refusing to go public, having received a series of online threats since The Daily Telegraph broke the story on Saturday.

"Our client voluntarily produced the jersey to the police to assist their enquiries," they said. They remain adamant the jersey in their client's possession is the one Sattler wore 41 years ago. "The jersey said to be lost or stolen in 2001 was, we understand, worn by John Sattler in the 1971 grand final," they added.

Sports Memorabilia Australia's Michael Fahey, who oversaw the sale of the jersey from the Weyrauchs to the owner, insists it is the 1970 jersey.
 
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