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Josh Papalii vs Mal Meninga

maddest_kiwi

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BOOM Canberra second-rower Josh Papalii is a wanted man, not only from rival clubs but Queensland coach Mal Meninga.
Papalii was born in New Zealand but Meninga has been trying to convince the Queensland-raised player to change his allegiance and make himself available for the Maroons. So far the 108-kilogram giant isn't budging.
Last year the 19-year-old was a member of the Junior Kiwis squad but the Souths Logan junior also donned a maroon guernsey for the Queensland under-18s team in 2010.
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''I am into him about playing for Queensland but he won't budge at the moment,'' Meninga said.
''I've been into him for about 12 months and he won't change his mind. Every time I get an opportunity I mention it to him and every opportunity I have mentioned it to him he has always shaken his head saying, 'No, I am available for New Zealand'.''
Meninga has not given up hope of changing Papalii's mind though he does not blame him wanting to represent his country of birth despite moving to Australia in primary school.
Meninga, who works as a coaching consultant for Canberra, was impressed by Papalii's performance against Gold Coast on Saturday, particularly his muscling up in defence. Meninga said a shoulder charge on Titans forward Mark Minichiello, forcing the veteran into error, was a game-changing moment.
''He was fantastic and put on some really good plays when the chips were down and they needed something. The great hit he did [on Minichiello] allowed the Raiders to keep the pressure on and things like that are fantastic,'' he said.
''Those sort of things are really important from individuals in the team to come up with a big play and that changed the momentum of the game.''
Meninga believes more should be done to ensure the junior talent nurtured in Australia remains eligible to play for their state after Jack Reed, Gerard Beale and Josh Hoffman all put other national aspirations ahead of potential Queensland and Australian represent honours.
''It is disappointing [to lose those players] as it is my belief that if you invest all your time, energy and money to a junior coming through the club system here in Australia they should automatically be involved in Queensland or NSW,'' he said.
Canberra and Queensland front-rower David Shillington had not heard about Meninga's plans for Papalii but thought the 19-year-old could adapt to the higher level of Origin if he made himself eligible.
''It would be good to have him on board, he is a talented player for a young fella and he is only going to get better,'' Shillington said. ''We saw his hitting power on the weekend, he put a couple of really good shots and that is the sort of stuff Origin in built on.''

www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/big-mal-wants-to-see-papalii-in-maroon-20120312-1uwjb.html

Oz's at it again... Steve Kearney may want get him involved with the squad (rather than just the juniors) to ensure he doesn't pull a Queensland or even worse a Kangaroo jersey.
 

adamkungl

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''It is disappointing [to lose those players] as it is my belief that if you invest all your time, energy and money to a junior coming through the club system here in Australia they should automatically be involved in Queensland or NSW,'' he said.

Damn, if only state and national eligibility weren't tied...
 

mean_maori_mean

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BOOM Canberra second-rower Josh Papalii is a wanted man, not only from rival clubs but Queensland coach Mal Meninga.
Papalii was born in New Zealand but Meninga has been trying to convince the Queensland-raised player to change his allegiance and make himself available for the Maroons. So far the 108-kilogram giant isn't budging.
Last year the 19-year-old was a member of the Junior Kiwis squad but the Souths Logan junior also donned a maroon guernsey for the Queensland under-18s team in 2010.
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''I am into him about playing for Queensland but he won't budge at the moment,'' Meninga said.
''I've been into him for about 12 months and he won't change his mind. Every time I get an opportunity I mention it to him and every opportunity I have mentioned it to him he has always shaken his head saying, 'No, I am available for New Zealand'.''
Meninga has not given up hope of changing Papalii's mind though he does not blame him wanting to represent his country of birth despite moving to Australia in primary school.
Meninga, who works as a coaching consultant for Canberra, was impressed by Papalii's performance against Gold Coast on Saturday, particularly his muscling up in defence. Meninga said a shoulder charge on Titans forward Mark Minichiello, forcing the veteran into error, was a game-changing moment.
''He was fantastic and put on some really good plays when the chips were down and they needed something. The great hit he did [on Minichiello] allowed the Raiders to keep the pressure on and things like that are fantastic,'' he said.
''Those sort of things are really important from individuals in the team to come up with a big play and that changed the momentum of the game.''
Meninga believes more should be done to ensure the junior talent nurtured in Australia remains eligible to play for their state after Jack Reed, Gerard Beale and Josh Hoffman all put other national aspirations ahead of potential Queensland and Australian represent honours.
''It is disappointing [to lose those players] as it is my belief that if you invest all your time, energy and money to a junior coming through the club system here in Australia they should automatically be involved in Queensland or NSW,'' he said.
Canberra and Queensland front-rower David Shillington had not heard about Meninga's plans for Papalii but thought the 19-year-old could adapt to the higher level of Origin if he made himself eligible.
''It would be good to have him on board, he is a talented player for a young fella and he is only going to get better,'' Shillington said. ''We saw his hitting power on the weekend, he put a couple of really good shots and that is the sort of stuff Origin in built on.''

www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/big-mal-wants-to-see-papalii-in-maroon-20120312-1uwjb.html

Oz's at it again... Steve Kearney may want get him involved with the squad (rather than just the juniors) to ensure he doesn't pull a Queensland or even worse a Kangaroo jersey.

Well Papalii was on standby for the senior kiwi squads last year.

Tony Kemp and co have mini camps/get together for kiwis playing in oz.
One is qld, one in sydney and maybe one in canberra considering they have plenty of nz eligible players like Drury Low, Chee Kam etc.

Both him and Bronson harrison are playing good footy for canberra.
And both will come into strong contention for the kiwis.
I would pickboth of them in 19 for anzac test.

I imagine it Bronson and youngsters like Mike Chee Kam helped confirm papalii allieagance.

Papalii off the bench can play bench prop or second rower.
He is the 2nd coming of ruben wiki.
Good kid I hear too.

Better prospect than Kasiano and Lama Tasi.
(though I still like Tasi)
 

hutch

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There is no problem enquiring as he moved to Australia as a child and might have wanted to play for his adopted country, but once he said no then that should be it. Stop pushing the question meninga, the bloke has made up his mind!
 

christopher

Juniors
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The lad is not going anywhere

SORRY Mal, but you won't get this talent.

Queensland-raised 19-year-old hitman Josh Papalii has ignored overtures from Maroons coach Mal Meninga and pledged his allegiance to New Zealand.

Meninga tried to convince Papalii, the Canberra backrower, that his future was in the State of Origin arena with Queensland, the state he moved to from Auckland during primary school.

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But Logan junior Papalii said his Kiwi roots meant too much to him and he formally put his hand up for a black jersey.

As a glimpse of what Queensland would be missing out on, the 108kg Papalii rocked Gold Coast players Mark Minichiello and Steve Michaels with big shoulder charges in the Raiders' 24-12 win on Saturday night.

Papalii joins Broncos stars Jack Reed, Gerard Beale and Josh Hoffman as talents who have shunned Queensland out of a desire to represent their country of heritage.

Papalii could be a bolter in Stephen Kearney's team for the Anzac Test in April.

Meninga, who is a coaching consultant at the Raiders, sat down with Papalii late last year to pitch his case.

Papalii said he was humbled by Meninga's approach, but had to go with his heart.

"I know now ... I'm Kiwi 100 per cent," Papalii said.

"I went on a tour with Junior Kiwis a few months ago and the bond amongst the boys was too strong. There was a lot of love there amongst my brothers and it's something I'm desperate to be a part of again."

With Queensland boasting only 21 per cent of players registered in the NRL, Meninga said it had got to the stage where he needed to work on players as young as 14 to have them commit to the Maroons.

Papalii said Junior Kiwis Lama Tasi and Sam Kasiano had made the "best decisions" for them in opting to declare allegiance to the Maroons.

Papalii said the choice would become increasingly difficult for young Kiwis as so many left for better opportunities across the ditch.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...ong-to-be-maroon/story-e6frep5x-1226296393852
 

AlwaysGreen

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He's been harassing him for 12 months? Josh has obviously made his decision and so Meninga should leave him alone.
 
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Good to see a few of the guys putting the kiwi jersey ahead of playing origin. However, don't be surprised if he changes his mind in a couple of years, if he doesn't get picked in the Kiwis. Not an easy choice for a young 19 year old.
 

Penrose Warrior

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He'll get picked, he's a gun. And rightly or wrongly - on form I'd say rightly - they'll probably pick him in the ANZAC Test with a mind to what has gone on with Queensland.
 

hitman82

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Taumalolo, who last month rejected a mammoth offer from Parramatta to re-sign with the Cowboys until the end of 2015, moved to Townsville from New Zealand as a 15-year-old. Last month, Meninga revealed he hoped Taumalolo would opt to represent the Maroons.

"When it comes to these matters, it's pretty clear cut. If Queensland have put the time and effort into developing a kid, then he should be playing for Queensland, and ultimately Australia," Meninga said.

"If New Zealand put in the time and effort, then the kid should play for New Zealand."

Taumalolo told The Courier-Mail last week: "Right now I'm confused but it would be good to put on a Maroon jersey.

"I've played schoolboys' footy for Queensland and for me State of Origin is the highest level of football."

Pathetic - absolutely pathetic.

If I was his father I'd be furious with the idiot.

f**k SOO, you are who you are. And this dude is a Kiwi through and through.

Meninga is a piece of shit and a cancer on the international game.
 

KiWi_BoI_15

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Man that pisses me off, we were just talking about this kid with the guys at work and we were all confident that he would turn out for the Kiwis. How wrong I was, bloody Meninga! Taumalolo to me was the best young player to watch for this year imo.
 

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