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Judiciary 2020

SBD82

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Tariq and Vaughan both charged. Both grade 1. With loading Tariq misses a game whether he pleads or contests it. Vaughan free to play with a plea.

Can’t remember the Vaughan incident. Thought Tariq was unlucky and just mistimed it, but I’d hate to see him put it in the holster for his next game. That’s the sort of aggression I want from him.
 

George Dragon

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Tariq and Vaughan both charged. Both grade 1. With loading Tariq misses a game whether he pleads or contests it. Vaughan free to play with a plea.

Can’t remember the Vaughan incident. Thought Tariq was unlucky and just mistimed it, but I’d hate to see him put it in the holster for his next game. That’s the sort of aggression I want from him.
Vaughan was a small crusher tackle on Garner
 

Gareth67

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Tariq and Vaughan both charged. Both grade 1. With loading Tariq misses a game whether he pleads or contests it. Vaughan free to play with a plea.

Can’t remember the Vaughan incident. Thought Tariq was unlucky and just mistimed it, but I’d hate to see him put it in the holster for his next game. That’s the sort of aggression I want from him.

Yes it’s great to see the renewed aggression in Tariq however each time he comes in with that all encompassing arm of his , he is sailing very close to the wind - too close for my liking . I would much rather have the man change his tackling technique than have him spending time off the field due to either suspension or injuring his shoulder yet again .
 

SBD82

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Yes it’s great to see the renewed aggression in Tariq however each time he comes in with that all encompassing arm of his , he is sailing very close to the wind - too close for my liking . I would much rather have the man change his tackling technique than have him spending time off the field due to either suspension or injuring his shoulder yet again .
I’d hate to see him injured, but I’m happy for him to skirt the rules. He’s the only pure aggression that we have. And even though it eventually went wrong, Reynolds had zero impact in attack because of the way Sims dominated him.
 

possm

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I’d hate to see him injured, but I’m happy for him to skirt the rules. He’s the only pure aggression that we have. And even though it eventually went wrong, Reynolds had zero impact in attack because of the way Sims dominated him.
Yes and if only the same wass done to Benji.
 

The Rosco

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I’d hate to see him injured, but I’m happy for him to skirt the rules. He’s the only pure aggression that we have. And even though it eventually went wrong, Reynolds had zero impact in attack because of the way Sims dominated him.
Yeah SBD . . . but the lippy lil merkin had enough left in him to fire off the sledges when we scored at the end.
Through his many aches and pains, he will somehow see that as a positive.
Every team needs a big, cranky forward . . . and sims is def your one !! He had Reynolds in his sights all night. Joshy must have said something impolite about Mrs sims in a previous match up . . .
 

SBD82

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Yeah SBD . . . but the lippy lil merkin had enough left in him to fire off the sledges when we scored at the end.
Through his many aches and pains, he will somehow see that as a positive.
Every team needs a big, cranky forward . . . and sims is def your one !! He had Reynolds in his sights all night. Joshy must have said something impolite about Mrs sims in a previous match up . . .
Reynolds is probably pretty accustomed to getting bashed. Kind of comes with the territory when you have his niggling type of personality. I’ll give him his due, he kept coming.

And you’re right, the aches and pains are much easier to take when you get the win. Well. That’s what I’ve heard anyway. Seems a long time since we got one.
 

BLM01

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Tariq and Vaughan both charged. Both grade 1. With loading Tariq misses a game whether he pleads or contests it. Vaughan free to play with a plea.

Can’t remember the Vaughan incident. Thought Tariq was unlucky and just mistimed it, but I’d hate to see him put it in the holster for his next game. That’s the sort of aggression I want from him.
I saw some other shoulder charges go unpunished. Did Napa get suspended or charged? I reckon TPJ charge regardless of loading is over the top. Sims like JWH are marked men.
 

SBD82

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I saw some other shoulder charges go unpunished. Did Napa get suspended or charged? I reckon TPJ charge regardless of loading is over the top. Sims like JWH are marked men.
Sims wasn’t done for the shoulder charge. It was because he made contact with the head.

From the main forum:

“Tariq Sims (Dragons)

  • Grade 1 Dangerous Contact (head/neck)
  • 76th minute
  • on Josh Reynolds (Wests Tigers)
  • Base penalty 100 points
  • One similar prior offence (50% loading)
  • Guilty / no contest 150points = 1 match
  • Early plea 112 points = 1 match
  • PLEA: TBC
  • OUTCOME: TBC”
 

BLM01

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Sims wasn’t done for the shoulder charge. It was because he made contact with the head.

From the main forum:

“Tariq Sims (Dragons)

  • Grade 1 Dangerous Contact (head/neck)
  • 76th minute
  • on Josh Reynolds (Wests Tigers)
  • Base penalty 100 points
  • One similar prior offence (50% loading)
  • Guilty / no contest 150points = 1 match
  • Early plea 112 points = 1 match
  • PLEA: TBC
  • OUTCOME: TBC”
Oh I just did not see the real contact with his head. Unless he ducked into it?
 

getsmarty

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NRL considers bigger penalties to stamp out hip-drop dangers
Christian Nicolussi and Adam Pengilly
September 28, 2020 — 7.30pm
Greg Alexander has doubled down on his scathing critique about the dangerous hip-drop tackle, asking: "How many more broken ankles or ligament damage to ankles or knees do we need before we go, 'this isn't good, we better stamp it out'?"

Storm forward Max King was referred straight to the NRL judiciary for a hip-drop during a three-man tackle on St George Illawarra Dragons' rival Blake Lawrie on Sunday.

Andrew Johns was filthy at the Storm for a 'dangerous' tackle

In referring King straight to the judiciary, the NRL escalated its attempts to crack down on the dangerous hip-drop tactic and League HQ may go even further, with NRL head of football Graham Annesley saying they may increase penalties for the judo-style move next year if it continues to occur.

King, who will be represented by lawyer Nick Ghabar at the judiciary on Tuesday night, faces a minimum three-week suspension if found guilty.

King apologised to Lawrie twice during the game and was said to be shattered his 50th NRL game was overshadowed by the incident.

Alexander, the former Kangaroos star turned commentator, was critical about King's effort during FoxSports' broadcast, saying the hip-drop tackle had an "intent to injure".

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Max King's hip-drop tackle on Blake Lawrie.Credit:Fox Sports screengrab

That angered Melbourne coach Craig Bellamy, who labelled Alexander's comments as "ridiculous" post-match and said: "I'd very disappointed if any player in the competition goes out to intentionally injure an opposition player".

Storm skipper Cameron Smith conceded the tackle was awkward.

"I know the tackle involved with Maxy didn't look great at all, if anything it was quite clumsy," Smith said. "But it's expected these things are raised at this time of year and it's just unfortunate that incident happened on the eve of the finals."

Alexander refused to back down despite Bellamy's angry response, saying the Melbourne coach was "splitting hairs".

Alexander said Canberra forward Emre Guler and Brisbane's David Fifita had already suffered season-ending ankle injuries because of a hip-drop tackles, and the only way to eradicate the tactic was harsh penalties.

"The player making that tackle had total disregard for the welfare of the bloke with the ball," Alexander said.

"I know he's not thinking at that split second, 'I want to injure this player, but he knows the tackle has a huge chance of doing exactly what happened to Emre Guler or even Blake Lawrie who had to leave the field.

"It's only by the grace of God he [Lawrie] didn't break his ankle.

"I remember saying this about the crusher tackle three years ago and how it was the worst tackle in the game. It took a while for us to think, 'shit, this is a bad tackle'.

"How many more broken ankles or ligament damage to ankles or knees do we need to go, 'this isn't good, we better stamp it out'?

"The crusher tackles and hip drops, you can tell the ones which are intentional. The only way you do that is by making the penalties bigger."

Asked whether the NRL could increase base penalties similarly to the crusher tackle crackdown, Annesley said: "Most definitely. I'd prefer the message was getting through a little louder and clearer.

"I'm not suggesting these things are coached, but sometimes trends emerge in our game. We'll review it at the end of the year and if we feel the penalties need to be stronger for this type of tackle we'll address that.

"We'll try to examine why it's happening, just as we have with crusher tackles. If we feel having done that analysis that the only way to try to prevent certain practices from taking place is to use a heavier hand through the match review and judicial process, then that's what we'll do.

"We're not doing it to punish players, we're doing it to keep players safer."


https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/nr...amp-out-hip-drop-dangers-20200928-p55zyu.html
 

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