Kear gone

[terracesider]

Kear, who last August helped deliver Hull's first major silverware for 23 years, left the club with immediate effect after being told earlier in the day that his contract would not be renewed.

Sporting Life

A failure. He only won the cup. :lol:

 

[Fairleigh Good!]

Its a shocking indication of how poor Super League is. He has built a cracking young side there with a lot of young British players. Players like Kirk Yeaman, Richard Horne and Paul Cooke who are amongst the best in their position in Super League.

No doubt his contract is not being renewed as they already have a deal in place with someone else. If that is a random Australian then its simply awful, if its McNamara from Bradford or any other British coach, then its not too bad.

I feel sorry for Kear, he has built the best Hull squad in years. The players there should take the flack for their start to the season, which has probably been made to look worse as the players would have known the coach was on the outer.

 

[bartman]

Unbelievable. I thought Kear was one of the best coaches. Coached his team to big match victories against more fancied opponents in last year's cup, developed a string of players into first team standards and beyond...

Hull haven't been going great this season, but the club must think they've lined up someone better to give Kear the flick... who could it be?

 

[The Wood]

I heard McNamara was the favorite to take over. Don't know how true it is.

 

[JasonE]

Very strange decision, maybe the club didn't like the fact that he is one of the few SL coaches who has the balls to drop his highly paid underperforming import.

 

[bartman]

Well they looked a better side for not having Blacklock play on Saturday for mine...

 

[Fairleigh Good!]

Its a bizarre decision and it makes me think there is something we don't know yet.

I highly doubt the Hull board are currently shuffling CV's tonight. I think they've known for a long time that they wanted someone else, letting Kear's contract run down was the cheapest way of getting rid.

I'd say its likely he's already been replaced. Steve McNamara the Assistant coach to Brian Noble is getting a lot of great press behind the scenes. A few of the Bradford players have come out and laid the credit for them winning the title firmly at his feet and not at Noble's. It sounds like he deserves his step up, but why would Hull risk him when they have a proven trophy winner in John Kear?

Personality clash perhaps?

 

[MrCharisma]

This is from BBC

Kear to leave Hull FC immediately

Kear guided Hull to victory in the Challenge Cup last season
Coach John Kear is to leave Hull FC with immediate effect after the club announced it would not renew his contract at the end of the season.

Following "amicable discussions" on Monday, the club also confirmed that Kear's contract will be honoured.

Kear said: "It has been a tremendous period of my working life and I wish all at the club the best of luck for the future."

Kear's assistant, Richard Agar, is a likely stop-gap appointment.

Steve McNamara, currently assistant coach at Bradford, could take the permanent post.

In a statement, chief executive David Plummer said: "Hull FC wish to place on record their appreciation for John's efforts over the past three and a half year and wish him all the best for the future."

The announcement ends speculation over Kear's future since the club failed to discuss a new contract with him after their Challenge Cup win last season.

Plummer told the Hull Daily Mail that the decision was taken because of a "very average" run of league results, with Hull losing four of their last five.

"The board will never forget the cup success," said Plummer. "But results since have not been impressive. In fact, very average and you have to ask why and are we progressing?

"At the start of the season we set certain objectives, which we now feel we are in danger of missing out on.

"We have to look at the reasons for that, especially as we effectively have the same set of players. You can't win Super League without being consistent.

"We showed in winning the cup that we were capable of beating the top sides. It wasn't as though we had one good day.

"That cup form hasn't come out in the league. So why? You'd probably have to say we're under-achieving. Having looked at the situation we think changing it is the right thing to do."

BBC Sport


What a joke.... I can't believe it. Sure he wasn't the best coach but Hull are a side definately on the rise and it doesn't even look like they've got a decent replacement

 

[ParraDude_Jay]

I heard McNamara was the favorite to take over. Don't know how true it is.

Their fans don't seem too happy about that one. Doesn't make sense, why replace Kear with McNamara at this stage of the season? In fact, why do it at all? Kear isn't to blame for what's happening with Cooke, Horne's huge drop in form, Swain's injury etc. and I don't see how sacking him at this point in the season could benefit them.

 

[JasonE]

Also harming Hull's performances this year is the drama surrounding Paul Cooke and his court case situation, his form has been down and he is the main go-to man. Looks like that wasn't considered in Kear's defence.

 

[MrCharisma]

What is this about Paul Cooke and a court case Jason?

 

[screeny]

This is a serious question, although not exactly RL, so please no piss take answers!

Kear is 51, and without a job, presumably with a family. What does he do now? Drive a minicab? It's a depressing thought. These poor coaches, they can't realistically expect to stay in any one job for more than 5 years or so, only very rarely.

If they don't move upstairs, like Noble probably will, then they just have to leave the game and look for work elsewhere. But who wants a 51-year-old ex-RL coach? What can he do?

 

[MrCharisma]

This is a serious question, although not exactly RL, so please no piss take answers!

Kear is 51, and without a job, presumably with a family. What does he do now? Drive a minicab? It's a depressing thought. These poor coaches, they can't realistically expect to stay in any one job for more than 5 years or so, only very rarely.

If they don't move upstairs, like Noble probably will, then they just have to leave the game and look for work elsewhere. But who wants a 51-year-old ex-RL coach? What can he do?

Coaching somewhere else?

Even if it's in NL1... there is always a need for coaches. Hell the Raiders need one now, so does Hull and France...

 

[terracesider]

This is a serious question, although not exactly RL, so please no piss take answers!

Kear is 51, and without a job, presumably with a family. What does he do now? Drive a minicab? ...

The serious answer is, yes if needs must; but over the years he should have built up enough personal contacts to be able to find a decent job somewhere out of RL if necessary.

It's interesting that all the praise on Kear comes from fans of clubs he's never coached. His successes have come with teams inherited from others - Mcrea at Hull at Hetherington at Sheffield. At Huddersfield, he was a total disaster, taking us from bad to worse. Recovery began the day he was sacked and Tony Smith arrived.

 

[bartman]

Screeny, one of the articles says Hull will honour his contract, so I take that to mean a pay out for the rest of the season? So he's got six months of normal pay to sort out his next job.

Mr C, background on Cooke's charges from http://sport.guardian.co.uk/rugbyleague/story/0,,1725099,00.html

Cooke to play on after not guilty plea

Paul Cooke will continue playing for Hull on bail until at least April 19 after pleading not guilty in the city's magistrates court yesterday to charges of wounding, assault and affray.

The 24-year-old loose forward, who represented England A in 2002 and scored Hull's match-winning try against Leeds in last year's Challenge Cup final, faces a pre-trial hearing next month before the case, which involves incidents in and outside a nightclub last December, goes to the Crown Court.
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Hull have refused to comment on the case, describing it as "a personal issue for Paul and his solicitor", and Cooke has told the Hull Daily Mail: "My rugby is the one thing which has kept me going and the club and fans can be assured I'll be giving 100% in every game I play." Hull's coach John Kear confirmed that Cooke will be named in a 20-man squad today for Friday's televised game at Bradford.

Rugby league's image in Hull suffered another blow yesterday with Makali Aizue, a Papua New Guinean forward who plays for Hull Kingston Rovers, also summoned to appear at the magistrates court on April 19 to answer a charge of assault in another city-centre incident.


The Rovers full-back Ben Cockayne, who is serving a three-match suspension for punching in a Northern Rail Cup game against Featherstone last month, has another disciplinary hearing tonight after being put on report for alleged biting then being sent off for headbutting at Sheffield the following week.

Interesting point Terracesider, was it Kear at the helm back when Huddersfield were riding the bottom of the table?

 

[WJ]

Its a shocking indication of how poor Super League is. He has built a cracking young side there with a lot of young British players. Players like Kirk Yeaman, Richard Horne and Paul Cooke who are amongst the best in their position in Super League.

No doubt his contract is not being renewed as they already have a deal in place with someone else. If that is a random Australian then its simply awful, if its McNamara from Bradford or any other British coach, then its not too bad.

I feel sorry for Kear, he has built the best Hull squad in years. The players there should take the flack for their start to the season, which has probably been made to look worse as the players would have known the coach was on the outer.

Don't talk rubbish. Kear didn't build that squad, Mcrae did.

 

[screeny]

For what it's worth I think Kear's rubbish anyway! He just doesn't come across as the type of person a RL pro would either learn much off or, more to the point, be passionate about playing for.

How much does a SL coach get paid? Circa £100,000 or is that too much? If he gets a £50K golden handshake all well and good, but fifty large won't get an unemployed family man very far.

Mind you, if he remains in Hull he can buy a whole street for that much cash.....

 

[pmarrow]

Mind you, if he remains in Hull he can buy a whole street for that much cash.....

We all can't live in paradise eh ? :evil:

I think the club did the right thing in a way, take the cup runs out of us over the last two seasons and our league form has been very disappointing. We also played some very boring Rugby under John Kear and more often then not lost the games we shouldn't be losing.

 

[Evil Homer]

Interesting point Terracesider, was it Kear at the helm back when Huddersfield were riding the bottom of the table?

Yeah,he was a shocker.He released some of Huddersfield's best young players at the time such as Ryan Hudson and Paul Jackson in favour of aging Australians,and signed some shockers.

Kear is good at motivating the players for big games,and that's about it.Hull were wise to get rid.

 

[terracesider]

Interesting point Terracesider, was it Kear at the helm back when Huddersfield were riding the bottom of the table?

Kear arrived from Sheffield and it's only fair to say that he inherited the nightmare, but it just carried on.

Anyway, there's a report in League Weekly that Kear has been caught up in in a take-over bid for Hull FC. Since the author is Dave Parker, there's a 50-50 chance if it's accurate or not.