Knights make cashed up bid for Origin players Snowden and TLL

[skeepe]

But the fact remains that Tinkler is not attached to the Knights and therefore cannot approach players.

This stinks to high hell. Is this the way the Fat Controller is going to run your club? If so, I'll probably hate them even more than I already do.

 

[Mr Angry]

I'll probably hate them even more than I already do.

I do not believe this is possible.

 

[Allstar Knights]

But the fact remains that Tinkler is not attached to the Knights and therefore cannot approach players.

This stinks to high hell. Is this the way the Fat Controller is going to run your club? If so, I'll probably hate them even more than I already do.

Look, who says he's offered him anything? Tinkler's probably asked Snowden to wait it out until he takes ownership of the club THEN he will offer him the cash.

Nothing illegal in that tbh.

 

[perverse]

ugh... Rothfield... bottom of the barrel stuff right there.

skeepe, if you hate us any harder you're going to have an aneurysm. gotta take care of yourself, mate.

 

[skeepe]

Look, who says he's offered him anything? Tinkler's probably asked Snowden to wait it out until he takes ownership of the club THEN he will offer him the cash.

Nothing illegal in that tbh.

:lol:

Haven't read the paper today? Everyone agrees that an offer was made.

 

[Joker's Wild]

Yet no proof of said "offer" has been presented either skeepe

Everyone can say that you're a decent human being in the papers but without offering 1 scrap of evidence, well, its just piss and wind isn't it

 

[skeepe]

If it was just one source claiming that an offer had been made, then I'd be a bit more wary. But every single news source in the country is singing from the same hymn sheet on this one.

 

[Baron Vo Mandor]

If it was just one source claiming that an offer had been made, then I'd be a bit more wary. But every single news source in the country is singing from the same hymn sheet on this one.

Nothing new mate they normally rip off the first "exclusive" as quickly as possible.

 

[Joker's Wild]

If it was just one source claiming that an offer had been made, then I'd be a bit more wary. But every single news source in the country is singing from the same hymn sheet on this one.

lol you're taking the piss right?

 

[badav]

There's no doubt Cronulla have been made to look like fools out of this whole affair, but at Newcastle there is a club's board and management issuing steadfast denials of an approach, while a bloke who currently doesn't have any ownership or management interest in the club engages in the player market contradictory to what the actual management of the club seems to indicate. Must be some strong management up there in Newcastle.

 

[Burwood]

It isn't as though Tinkler has put a contract in front of Snowden and asked him to sign it. All he would have done is told Snowden that X amount of extra funding will be available for him when/if he gains control of the club.

What I want to know is, where was this offer of help from Tinkler last week when the Knights made a play for Snowden?

Is Tinkler trying to show his potential power to help woo members at next months vote? Did the Knights turn down his offer of help? Or is it simply that Tinkler was only aware that Newcastle's bid for Snowden had failed when the press conference was announced and he was forced to play his hand at the last minute?

 

[Alex28]

The think is Tinkler isn't even a third party and can't even sponsor players in that manner. He's a sponsor of the club and the club owes money to him. He is no third party. It doesn't matter if he owns the club or not.

Obviously he knows of people and companies that want to sponsor Kade at Newcastle. Best that he lets Kade know those opportunities before he signs with the Sharks.

That makes him a good corporate citizen doesn't it? ;-)

 

[Alex28]

It isn't as though Tinkler has put a contract in front of Snowden and asked him to sign it. All he would have done is told Snowden that X amount of extra funding will be available for him when/if he gains control of the club.

What I want to know is, where was this offer of help from Tinkler last week when the Knights made a play for Snowden?

Is Tinkler trying to show his potential power to help woo members at next months vote? Did the Knights turn down his offer of help? Or is it simply that Tinkler was only aware that Newcastle's bid for Snowden had failed when the press conference was announced and he was forced to play his hand at the last minute?

To me that means he was hoping to get him cheaper, but stepped in with a larger offer when he looked like he was going elsewhere. He didn't get where he is by paying more that what he had to for assets...

 

[slotmachine]

What I want to know is, where was this offer of help from Tinkler last week when the Knights made a play for Snowden?

I think that's fairly obvious. He didn't want to interfere in the clubs recruitment while they were still a chance of signing him. When he heard that he was going to the Sharks he came in with his "offer".

And just to everyone carping on about the "legality" of Tinkler making an "offer". He can't offer a player an NRL contract as he has no affiliation to the Knights or NRL (for now).

What he can say is "Don't sign anything at the moment and in two month's time, if I own the Knights, you will be offered X" where X is a large number.


You or I could go to Snowden, or Gallen or Benji or whoever with a similar "offer". The player and their agent then have to weigh up the risks involved with renegging on a valid, tabled NRL contact for what amounts to a promise only.


In my case they would reject the offer out of hand as I'm a nobody in the NRL world. However, if the person talking to you is a billionaire who is about to buy an NRL club you might think about it. Which is evidently what Snowden and his manager are doing.

 

[slotmachine]

Also, as their is no NRL contract on offer here, as the Knights have confirmed, there is nothing to fall inside "the cap" or "third party".

We won't know until a) Tinkler takes over the Knights and b) offers Snowden an NRL contract.
If a) and b) occur then Schubert can assess the contract on the table.


Potentially, the Knights could offer Snowden 300k a year like they were always going to, then third parties come in later to top up his income. Every man and his dog will know that the third parties are guaranteed but it's not what you know, it's what you can prove.
For more information please contact Brisbane Broncos @ Red Hill or South Sydney @ Redfern.

 

[RABK]

If Snowden does indeed complete the 'backflip' and sign with us then it's hard to see how he could play for the sharks in 2011? It'd be hard to pull on their jersey with your team mates and play for their fans after this - it'd be down right awkward for him. He'd be taunted all year long.


Odds that he comes to us in 2011? He does have a get out clause in his deal ending october 2011.

 

[Raider_69]

Tinkler and his group will be affliated with the club, once he does that, as i understand his 3rd party deals through companies he is involved with will come under the cap, as 3rd party is exactly that... 3rd party, Tinkler and any company he is involved with are 1st party to the knights.

Ill watch with keen interest as to what the NRL does about this... if Tinkler's found a loop hole as an owner where he can offer big cash in order to get stars to the knights, i suspect that loop hole will be closed very quickly and if he's teeing up deals outside of it, the NRL will also make sure to put in place limits, they've put in a sh*te load of work to make the comp even, they arent about to let people like Crowe and Tinkler come and turn the game in a EPL where there is only 2-3 legit contenders every season.

They wont allow the crowe's and tinklers of the world to come in and sign all star teams, they just wont allow it, so tinkler might have to pick his targets well. In this case i think he has. Local kid, good player in a position of need.

But i hope they do get Snowden, even if its the knights, i like to see local kids playing for their local club. But i will feel very badly for the sharkies, who have made him into the player he is when he was pretty much on the knights scrap heap. they deserve to be the benificaries of his talents... sports often not fair though.

 

[Newie is God's Country]

But the fact remains that Tinkler is not attached to the Knights and therefore cannot approach players.

This stinks to high hell. Is this the way the Fat Controller is going to run your club? If so, I'll probably hate them even more than I already do.

Who cares what you think. Mediocrity for two decades really has made you bitter hasn't it. Know your place. You comment on stuff that has nothing to do with you and your club. Brett White and Matt Orford eh! What else needs to be said.

 

[Spot On]

I think that's fairly obvious. He didn't want to interfere in the clubs recruitment while they were still a chance of signing him. When he heard that he was going to the Sharks he came in with his "offer".

And just to everyone carping on about the "legality" of Tinkler making an "offer". He can't offer a player an NRL contract as he has no affiliation to the Knights or NRL (for now).

What he can say is "Don't sign anything at the moment and in two month's time, if I own the Knights, you will be offered X" where X is a large number.


You or I could go to Snowden, or Gallen or Benji or whoever with a similar "offer". The player and their agent then have to weigh up the risks involved with renegging on a valid, tabled NRL contact for what amounts to a promise only.


In my case they would reject the offer out of hand as I'm a nobody in the NRL world. However, if the person talking to you is a billionaire who is about to buy an NRL club you might think about it. Which is evidently what Snowden and his manager are doing.

This. He obviously knows what the club needs and will not let it slip. He expects to be holding the reigns come March. He can't sit back and watch the players he wants commit elsewhere for two or more years because the current club structure and financial position doesn't allow us to pay overs. I believe the clubs original offer to Snowden was a more than reasonable one. However Kade did not. If this "third party" can persuade him to come to Newy then I am duly impressed. However, I'm assuming this new offer will be one that mirrors Darren Lockyer's deal, where he is listed at $250,000 under the cap and the rest is made up of third party deals.

If this is the sort of thing this 'third party' is capable of, and it's legit under the NRL salary cap (and if anyone reading this understands anything to do with third party monies and the salary cap then please take the time to enlighten me)then get the vote done asap. The playing field has just been levelled or even tilted in Newcastle's favour having Tinkler on board. This club can be "in the game" for many years to come with the Big Man at the helm.

 

[Raider_69]

Who cares what you think. Mediocrity for two decades really has made you bitter hasn't it. Know your place. You comment on stuff that has nothing to do with you and your club. Brett White and Matt Orford eh! What else needs to be said.

not taking the piss but both would be absolute walk up starts for the knights. As it stands Brett White, who would be easily your best front rower, is our 3rd maybe even 4th best front rower. And you are off the planet if you think 6. Mullen 7. Orford wouldnt be more dangerous than having a rook like Henry or Rogers in the halves.