Knock-on Effect NSW Cup - Eels Team

[hindy111]

I see Makahesi Makatoa’s brother Phillip is named for the Dogs.

Excellent observation skills. Are you sure it's not his cousin though.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

If it was his cousin in my made up story I wouldn’t have said it was his brother ffs

 

[T.S Quint]

Excellent observation skills. Are you sure it's not his cousin though.

Its actually his son.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

ffs!

 

[Blue & Gold Never Fold]

Another interesting observation and point of clarification… #16 for the Bulldogs NSW Cup team, is that the same Sam Hughes as the one in our juniors system, that was highly rated but then mysteriously disappeared from our club?

 

[TheCrowe]

Another interesting observation and point of clarification… #16 for the Bulldogs NSW Cup team, is that the same Sam Hughes as the one in our juniors system, that was highly rated but then mysteriously disappeared from our club?

Same D.O.B so would assume so. He and Hollis were the next big thing.

 

[hindy111]

Same D.O.B so would assume so. He and Hollis were the next big thing.

Along with Kafusi. There are always more overhyped juniors then actual good players bought thru. If look at most our good ones
Brown,Penisini, Mahoney they all become regular NRL players by age 20. Why I am skeptical about kids who are 21 and not yet regulars. I am not saying they won't develop into quality NRL players, they may.
But in general terms the good kids are playing NRL already and to good to drop.

Why guys like Hands,Morreti,El Zakhem,Rodwell,Greig etc I don't imagine ever being anything special. Maybe bench options or just average players. But then again you always do get the odd late bloomer. Capewell,Sorenson are two recent ones.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Same D.O.B so would assume so. He and Hollis were the next big thing.

Could be his twin sister Samantha.

 

[parra pete]

Another interesting observation and point of clarification… #16 for the Bulldogs NSW Cup team, is that the same Sam Hughes as the one in our juniors system, that was highly rated but then mysteriously disappeared from our club?

Sssssssssh.

 

[TheCrowe]

Along with Kafusi. There are always more overhyped juniors then actual good players bought thru. If look at most our good ones
Brown,Penisini, Mahoney they all become regular NRL players by age 20. Why I am skeptical about kids who are 21 and not yet regulars. I am not saying they won't develop into quality NRL players, they may.
But in general terms the good kids are playing NRL already and to good to drop.

Why guys like Hands,Morreti,El Zakhem,Rodwell,Greig etc I don't imagine ever being anything special. Maybe bench options or just average players. But then again you always do get the odd late bloomer. Capewell,Sorenson are two recent ones.

Isaiah Papali'i​

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Along with Kafusi. There are always more overhyped juniors then actual good players bought thru. If look at most our good ones
Brown,Penisini, Mahoney they all become regular NRL players by age 20. Why I am skeptical about kids who are 21 and not yet regulars. I am not saying they won't develop into quality NRL players, they may.
But in general terms the good kids are playing NRL already and to good to drop.

Why guys like Hands,Morreti,El Zakhem,Rodwell,Greig etc I don't imagine ever being anything special. Maybe bench options or just average players. But then again you always do get the odd late bloomer. Capewell,Sorenson are two recent ones.

For middle forwards it’s generally later than 20.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Isaiah Papali'i​

He played 25 games before his 20th birthday. Definitely not a late bloomer.

 

[hindy111]

For middle forwards it’s generally later than 20.

Unsure. Are youn ure?

 

[Soren Lorenson]

Unsure. Are youn ure?

What language is this? Rabbit language?

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Along with Kafusi. There are always more overhyped juniors then actual good players bought thru. If look at most our good ones
Brown,Penisini, Mahoney they all become regular NRL players by age 20. Why I am skeptical about kids who are 21 and not yet regulars. I am not saying they won't develop into quality NRL players, they may.
But in general terms the good kids are playing NRL already and to good to drop.

Why guys like Hands,Morreti,El Zakhem,Rodwell,Greig etc I don't imagine ever being anything special. Maybe bench options or just average players. But then again you always do get the odd late bloomer. Capewell,Sorenson are two recent ones.

Interestingly Panthers the “leading” development club with the “best” juniors doesnt support this ….

10 players from the Panthers GF side didn’t debut until at least they were 21. And the average age of these players when they finally played 20 plus games in a year (probably the point where they are regular NRL players) is nearly 24 (23.875):


To’o 21 (age on debut) 16 games (in debut season, 23 when play 20 plus games

Momirovski 22, 2 games, never played 20 plus games

Luai, 21, 4 games, 23 before playing 20 plus games

Leota, 21, 4 games, 23 when playing 20 plus games

Api, 22, 14 games, 25 when playing 20 plus games

Martin, 22, 16 games, 23 when playing 20 plus games

Capwell, 23, 4 games, 26 when playing 20 plus games

Kikau, 22, 9 games, 23 when playing 20 plus games

May, 21, 9 games, 25 when playing 20 plus games

Sorensen, 21, 3 games, never played 20 plus games

this list includes 5 origin players and

 

[hindy111]

Interestingly Panthers the “leading” development club with the “best” juniors doesnt support this ….

10 players from the Panthers GF side didn’t debut until at least they were 21. And the average age of these players when they finally played 20 plus games in a year (probably the point where they are regular NRL players) is nearly 24 (23.875):


To’o 21 (age on debut) 16 games (in debut season, 23 when play 20 plus games

Momirovski 22, 2 games, never played 20 plus games

Luai, 21, 4 games, 23 before playing 20 plus games

Leota, 21, 4 games, 23 when playing 20 plus games

Api, 22, 14 games, 25 when playing 20 plus games

Martin, 22, 16 games, 23 when playing 20 plus games

Capwell, 23, 4 games, 26 when playing 20 plus games

Kikau, 22, 9 games, 23 when playing 20 plus games

May, 21, 9 games, 25 when playing 20 plus games

Sorensen, 21, 3 games, never played 20 plus games

this list includes 5 origin players and

Interesting stat. Seems different with our club but doesn't it? All the good kids are in top grade early. Maybe Penrith are smart. Hide them a little so when do debut they are getting excellent value from them for a few years rather then learning their game in the NRL like D.Brown and being paid a bomb for future potential.

 

[hindy111]

What language is this? Rabbit language?

Insomnia is back. Origin f**ked my sleeping pattern up. I also suffered minor frost bite. It's been a traumatic week.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Along with Kafusi. There are always more overhyped juniors then actual good players bought thru. If look at most our good ones
Brown,Penisini, Mahoney they all become regular NRL players by age 20. Why I am skeptical about kids who are 21 and not yet regulars. I am not saying they won't develop into quality NRL players, they may.
But in general terms the good kids are playing NRL already and to good to drop.

Why guys like Hands,Morreti,El Zakhem,Rodwell,Greig etc I don't imagine ever being anything special. Maybe bench options or just average players. But then again you always do get the odd late bloomer. Capewell,Sorenson are two recent ones.

Actually, merkin, I just had a look at the 34 blokes who played Origin the other night and almost half of them (47%) hadn’t played a single NRL game before the age of 20. Only five of them had played a full season (20+ games) by their 20th birthday, plus Nanai who has played 16 games and turns 20 next year. That’s only 6 from 34 (18%) who were anything like ‘regular NRL players by age 20’.

 

[hindy111]

Actually, merkin, I just had a look at the 34 blokes who played Origin the other night and almost half of them (47%) hadn’t played a single NRL game before the age of 20. Only five of them had played a full season (20+ games) by their 20th birthday, plus Nanai who has played 16 games and turns 20 next year. That’s only 6 from 34 (18%) who were anything like ‘regular NRL players by age 20’.

Well there you go. I was wrong and you where right.
You also have stats to prove it. Perhaps the age is 21? It just seems all our top shelf players hit NRL by time they are 20. There is hope for Hollis yet.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Interesting stat. Seems different with our club but doesn't it? All the good kids are in top grade early. Maybe Penrith are smart. Hide them a little so when do debut they are getting excellent value from them for a few years rather then learning their game in the NRL like D.Brown and being paid a bomb for future potential.

Or maybe it's a bit more difficult to get into the Panthers side of late.