KOE (ex Canterbury Cup) and Jersey Flegg

[TheRev]

Rumble is my fave player in that JF side also, was happy to see Stewart moved on to make room for him in nsw cup, either from Rd 1 or maybe mid season..

 

[Auntie.Gerald]

Hey guys we had family over last night so couldnt get to the games this morning in the Gong.

Any updates?

 

[TheRev]

What a massive day of dragons/steelers footy.. I think the JF vs NSWCup side was in the morning? I dont know if we will get any news/scores/whatever out of that one, bar anyone here who was at the ground?

Harold Matts, Steelers got up again and Dragons are in front.. hope they get their win.. and then 2x SG about to start!

 

[Dragonsteve2]

What a massive day of dragons/steelers footy.. I think the JF vs NSWCup side was in the morning? I dont know if we will get any news/scores/whatever out of that one, bar anyone here who was at the ground?

Harold Matts, Steelers got up again and Dragons are in front.. hope they get their win.. and then 2x SG about to start!

Got to see 40 minutes of Flegg vs KOE sides before being called away, much to my disappointment. So just a few snippets. Flegg were up 14-8 with 30 mins to go. Both teams looked fitter and sharper than the games I saw last year or was this just wishful thinking? They were getting a break every 10 minutes. Unfortunately in the first half the KOE team played that style of Dragons' footy where they drop the ball every time they get their hands on it. Gifted 2 tries to Flegg. On the positive side, Rumble sliced through the defence for a nice try so did Josh Ralph but spilt the ball on the goal line. Coric made a few powerful runs. Brandon Webster-Mansfield moved nicely to finish a good backline movement for one try. It was good to see Fui back from his appalling injury last year. Interesting that he appeared much bigger than when playing in the NRL.

Didn't know many of the Flegg boys but thought Jett Liu had a fair bit more impact than when I watched him last year. There was a decent backline movement which resulted in the left winger scoring in the corner.

As I said, only a few snippets but the best news was I sighted Deano at the ground!

 

[toddgakk]

Got to see 40 minutes of Flegg vs KOE sides before being called away, much to my disappointment. So just a few snippets. Flegg were up 14-8 with 30 mins to go. Both teams looked fitter and sharper than the games I saw last year or was this just wishful thinking? They were getting a break every 10 minutes. Unfortunately in the first half the KOE team played that style of Dragons' footy where they drop the ball every time they get their hands on it. Gifted 2 tries to Flegg. On the positive side, Rumble sliced through the defence for a nice try so did Josh Ralph but spilt the ball on the goal line. Coric made a few powerful runs. Brandon Webster-Mansfield moved nicely to finish a good backline movement for one try. It was good to see Fui back from his appalling injury last year. Interesting that he appeared much bigger than when playing in the NRL.

Didn't know many of the Flegg boys but thought Jett Liu had a fair bit more impact than when I watched him last year. There was a decent backline movement which resulted in the left winger scoring in the corner.

As I said, only a few snippets but the best news was I sighted Deano at the ground!

As I said, only a few snippets but the best news was I sighted Deano at the ground!

 

[SnowDragon]

Got to see 40 minutes of Flegg vs KOE sides before being called away, much to my disappointment. So just a few snippets. Flegg were up 14-8 with 30 mins to go. Both teams looked fitter and sharper than the games I saw last year or was this just wishful thinking? They were getting a break every 10 minutes. Unfortunately in the first half the KOE team played that style of Dragons' footy where they drop the ball every time they get their hands on it. Gifted 2 tries to Flegg. On the positive side, Rumble sliced through the defence for a nice try so did Josh Ralph but spilt the ball on the goal line. Coric made a few powerful runs. Brandon Webster-Mansfield moved nicely to finish a good backline movement for one try. It was good to see Fui back from his appalling injury last year. Interesting that he appeared much bigger than when playing in the NRL.

Didn't know many of the Flegg boys but thought Jett Liu had a fair bit more impact than when I watched him last year. There was a decent backline movement which resulted in the left winger scoring in the corner.

As I said, only a few snippets but the best news was I sighted Deano at the ground!

thanks so much to everyone posting impressions. being on the other side of the world, this is the only way I can gain any info on the young guys, without any telecasts

 

[TheRev]

Got to see 40 minutes of Flegg vs KOE sides before being called away, much to my disappointment. So just a few snippets. Flegg were up 14-8 with 30 mins to go. Both teams looked fitter and sharper than the games I saw last year or was this just wishful thinking? They were getting a break every 10 minutes. Unfortunately in the first half the KOE team played that style of Dragons' footy where they drop the ball every time they get their hands on it. Gifted 2 tries to Flegg. On the positive side, Rumble sliced through the defence for a nice try so did Josh Ralph but spilt the ball on the goal line. Coric made a few powerful runs. Brandon Webster-Mansfield moved nicely to finish a good backline movement for one try. It was good to see Fui back from his appalling injury last year. Interesting that he appeared much bigger than when playing in the NRL.

Didn't know many of the Flegg boys but thought Jett Liu had a fair bit more impact than when I watched him last year. There was a decent backline movement which resulted in the left winger scoring in the corner.

As I said, only a few snippets but the best news was I sighted Deano at the ground!

Sensational thanks Steve! Given most of the cup side is in the extended squad tonight, its sort of a mixed bag of players, but good on the JF boys!

 

[baggygreen man]

DRAGONS KNOCK-ON EFFECT NSW CUP TEAM LIST to play an intersquad match on Saturday. (today) in the Gong.​

1. Ben Rumble
2. Cooper Roberts
3. Brandon Webster-Mansfield
4. Ben Johnson
5. Jack Piccirilli
6. Josh Ralph
7. Jonah Glover
8. Bryce Magnone
9. Haele Finau
10. Josh Coric
11. Jackson Shereb
12. Levi Pascoe
13. Thomas Freebairn

Interchange​

14. Kristian Williams
15. Tyrell Fuimaono
16. Declan Purcell
17. Phoenix Vetenibua-Finnerty
18. Hamish Stewart

DRAGONS JERSEY FLEGG CUP TEAM LIST​

1. Wes Pring
2. Cain Barnes
3. Will Starling
4. Ben Lavender
5. Ethan Cliff
6. Nick Quinn
7. Ashton Ward
8. Jacob Webster
9. Kyan Hjaltason
10. Jett Liu
11. Campbell Watchirs
12. Dilan Asanoski
13. Matthew Alhazim

Interchange​

14. Riley Pascoe​

15. Travis Barrett-Hancock​

16. Callum Leikvoll
17. Jack Quine
18. Jack Quine
19. Kye Wright
20. Kyhe Russell
21. Nash Hooper
22. Trey Barlow

 

[baggygreen man]

Finally we get to see the makeup of our two lower grade sides.

6. Josh Ralph
7. Jonah Glover

This Ressie pair of imports look impressive from footage I have seen.

6. Nick Quinn
7. Ashton Ward
8. Jacob Webster
9. Kyan Hjaltason
10. Jett Liu

Some talent among this Flegg group. Suppose there was no one from our club covering the game. Even a live stream without commentary would do nicely.

 

[BlackDuckSaint]

Finally we get to see the makeup of our two lower grade sides.

This Ressie pair of imports look impressive from footage I have seen.

Some talent among this Flegg group. Be great to actually see them in action, other than a 2min h/l reel.

I wonder which SG players will move up to Flegg or NSW Cup.

LKT was already playing Cup last year. Same with Buchanan.

 

[TheRev]

honestly it will be fascinating to see who moves up.. the recruitment of Glover/Ralph imo makes it seem like Marschke will be in 1st grade, and King-Togia/Reed will likely move to Jersey Flegg.. not sure where Quinn/Ward are in the heirachy.. I feel like they will drop out and be leap-frogged by the Steelers U19 combination.

 

[baggygreen man]

Quinn/Ward

Whether they drop out or not depends on how they game manage the Flegg side. Take em to the finals and the Steelers halves pair will have to wait.

 

[TheRev]

Whether they drop out or not depends on how they game manage the Flegg side. Take em to the finals and the Steelers halves pair will have to wait.

SG Finals will be the month of April I believe, so somewhere between maybe 5-8 rounds of Jersey Flegg has gone down by the time the Steelers kids are available to move up?

I have a suspicion that Reed/King-Togia will immediately take those jerseys? Either that or they end up in NSW Cup..

 

[randomdragon]

SG Finals will be the month of April I believe, so somewhere between maybe 5-8 rounds of Jersey Flegg has gone down by the time the Steelers kids are available to move up?

I have a suspicion that Reed/King-Togia will immediately take those jerseys? Either that or they end up in NSW Cup..

I disagree, last year is an exception because the lower grades were run so poorly. Most of the SG kids will play JF this year with an exception of a few, it is good for their development to play JF and dominate there. Flano is all over it and has a plan for every single kid

 

[TheRev]

I disagree, last year is an exception because the lower grades were run so poorly. Most of the SG kids will play JF this year with an exception of a few, it is good for their development to play JF and dominate there. Flano is all over it and has a plan for every single kid

Yah I'm in agreeance, I think they will take the JF jerseys, I think Quinn/Ward will be superseded.

I think thats also why we bought Glover/Ralph to give NSW Cup some more options.

 

[Auntie.Gerald]

Yep Marshcke, Glover and Ralph will need to get serious minutes in NSW cup in case injuries strike in FG

Marshcke though maybe able to hold down a FG spot on the bench?

 

[Auntie.Gerald]

BTW if Liam Martin NRL debuted early 2019 when he had turned 22yrs old

And Ryan Couchman NRL debuted at 19yrs of age and now just on 20yrs old has played 5 games of NRL already.

R Couchman will potentially have two more seasons of FG when he is the same age as Liam when he debuted NRL.

That means Ryan may have another NRL 30 or 40 games to his name when turning 22yrs old (same as Martin NRL debut age).

I suspect we underestimate were Ryan Couchman is already in his development.

Egan is only 19yrs old still? now played 6 games in NSW Cup and will get a whole season there this season and another pre season end of 2024

Egan and R.Couchman will fill out a lot next two seasons and be everywhere as big and strong as Liam Martin 22yrs ofl debut NRL age. Martin is currently 103kg at almost 27yrs of age. Supposedly Egan is 182cm and just on 95kg and R Couchman 100kg and 188cmish. Both 19/20 yrs old respectively.

Not to forget the other seriously exciting 18 and 19 yr old edge and or backrowers:

Tsougranis
Latu
Halangahu
Stewart
Ackers
Meafou
Cyrus Stanley Traill

Alongside this we will go for a couple project players ie ex centres aspiring to become backrowers

Tom Esienhuth a centre made the transition and finally at 25yrs of age played his 2nd game of NRL then has played another 60 games since for the Storm and probably will play 20 or so for us in 2024

Kurt Capewell did similar as a centre at the Sharks at 22yrs of age with Flano in 2016 but transitioned to edge backrow next season and played 15 games or so.............NOW 140 games plus as a edge backrower

ie the rangy tall guys who dont quite have the take off speed for centre anymore but need a few years to fil out for edge backrow around that 22/24yrs of age

22yr old Brandon Mansfield looks interesting to me and in a good system like Flano is bringing at 102kg and 186cm could be a project player for edge backrow.........played centre orginally then last couple seasons edge backrow

 

[TheRev]

Yep Marshcke, Glover and Ralph will need to get serious minutes in NSW cup in case injuries strike in FG

Marshcke though maybe able to hold down a FG spot on the bench?

Yep I think Marschke was originally bought as nsw cup 5/8, and crucial for injury cover for 1st grade.. But he's impressed so much that he's probably a lock in our 17..

Hence the last minute buys of glover/Ralph who I'm rly not that excited about, but atleast it's some experience for the cup team.. And if one excels that's a great bonus.

 

[AyiosYiorgos]

BTW if Liam Martin NRL debuted early 2019 when he had turned 22yrs old

And Ryan Couchman NRL debuted at 19yrs of age and now just on 20yrs old has played 5 games of NRL already.

R Couchman will potentially have two more seasons of FG when he is the same age as Liam when he debuted NRL.

That means Ryan may have another NRL 30 or 40 games to his name when turning 22yrs old (same as Martin NRL debut age).

I suspect we underestimate were Ryan Couchman is already in his development.

Egan is only 19yrs old still? now played 6 games in NSW Cup and will get a whole season there this season and another pre season end of 2024

Egan and R.Couchman will fill out a lot next two seasons and be everywhere as big and strong as Liam Martin 22yrs ofl debut NRL age. Martin is currently 103kg at almost 27yrs of age. Supposedly Egan is 182cm and just on 95kg and R Couchman 100kg and 188cmish. Both 19/20 yrs old respectively.

Not to forget the other seriously exciting 18 and 19 yr old edge and or backrowers:

Tsougranis
Latu
Halangahu
Stewart
Ackers
Meafou
Cyrus Stanley Traill

Alongside this we will go for a couple project players ie ex centres aspiring to become backrowers

Tom Esienhuth a centre made the transition and finally at 25yrs of age played his 2nd game of NRL then has played another 60 games since for the Storm and probably will play 20 or so for us in 2024

Kurt Capewell did similar as a centre at the Sharks at 22yrs of age with Flano in 2016 but transitioned to edge backrow next season and played 15 games or so.............NOW 140 games plus as a edge backrower

ie the rangy tall guys who dont quite have the take off speed for centre anymore but need a few years to fil out for edge backrow around that 22/24yrs of age

22yr old Brandon Mansfield looks interesting to me and in a good system like Flano is bringing at 102kg and 186cm could be a project player for edge backrow.........played centre orginally then last couple seasons edge backrow

Egan 182cm, that's basically 6ft i highly doubt that.

 

[Jeremy Dragon]

22yr old Brandon Mansfield looks interesting to me and in a good system like Flano is bringing at 102kg and 186cm could be a project player for edge backrow.........played centre orginally then last couple seasons edge backrow

played centre on weekend made two mistakes that led to Flegg tries

Yep I think Marschke was originally bought as nsw cup 5/8, and crucial for injury cover for 1st grade.. But he's impressed so much that he's probably a lock in our 17..

Hence the last minute buys of glover/Ralph who I'm rly not that excited about, but atleast it's some experience for the cup team.. And if one excels that's a great bonbonus

Glover Ralph signing had nothing to do with Marschke, they were signed after Immanuel Aiava and Sadee Sub Laban were sacked.
Again they are not on T&T contracts in fact most T&T contracts finish after pre-season. We are not paying guys $1500 to run around in Ball and Flegg.

@randomdragon

mate is this true the below re $30k a game in NSW Cup and or Qld Cup ????

seems outrageous vs TT and the Sal Cap ????

"Pangai jnr has held preliminary talks with the Broncos, who are open to keeping salary cap space and a roster spot free for him pending his form and fitness.
Any deal would need the NRL’s salary cap auditor to approve a nominal value for Pangai jnr’s signing, which would likely be based on his most recent $750,000 salary and potentially break down to just under $30,000 per game."

He will not get 30k playing Cup footy.
What it means is if he plays the back end of the season say 15 games Salary cap auditors will count it as 450K to the salary cap no matter what Broncos pay him