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[rednwhites]

The side has gone backwards since he has been in charge.

Yeah but he's one of the boys and I think we all know that's what's most important. Success can wait.

 

[AyiosYiorgos]

Yeah but he's one of the boys and I think we all know that's what's most important. Success can wait.

He aint no threat to Mary, if you're a threat you are gone by end of the season...

 

[slippery5]

Both our winger were good and Robson solid.
But no one pushing for nrl

I was horrified when the souths forwards out pace Ravalawa in a kick through last week, so surely Pearson gets the nod. If Mary wants a kick returner & not someone who can score a try from inside our own half than Aitken would be just as potent, you could than put Lomax at centre so he can take the conversions.
Question: Do you think Latimore does enough to warrant his continual selection? especially as he seems to be carrying a knee injury with it heavily strapped.

 

[hewi]

I was horrified when the souths forwards out pace Ravalawa in a kick through last week, so surely Pearson gets the nod. If Mary wants a kick returner & not someone who can score a try from inside our own half than Aitken would be just as potent, you could than put Lomax at centre so he can take the conversions.
Question: Do you think Latimore does enough to warrant his continual selection? especially as he seems to be carrying a knee injury with it heavily strapped.

Time to rest him and put Kerr In . Start Vaughan and Kerr, bench Sims and Graham.

 

[Dragonslayer]

There's a reason why mosf of these players are at this level. There are some with promise, but need time.

Ford looks a likely type and is developing well, just needs more body strength.
Lovodua, same as Ford.
Timm is a young prop, I think needs more endurance but is a keeper.
SSE is still eligible for JF but I would persist with him in CC now rhat it appears likely Lomax will play 1st grade.
Now, Pearson. Has tons of speed in his legs but tons of sand between his ears. Him and Rava appear equal imo.
Leilua is either unfit or couldn't give a f*^@, i'm calling the later as my appraisal.
The rest just CC standard.

 

[getsmarty]

Panthers pip CC Dragons
Author
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Timestamp
Sat 30 Mar 2019, 03:14 PM

A Lachlan Maranta hat-trick wasn't enough for the Canterbury Cup Dragons in their clash against the Penrith Panthers, losing 26-24 to the Penrith Panthers on Saturday afternoon.

The game came to a neck and neck finish in the last five minutes with the Dragons fighting their way back from a 12-point deficit in the second-half but were unable to capitalise on their chances in the dying stages.

Watene-Zelezniak crossed for an early double to get the Panthers off to a flying start before Luai and Paea Pua found their names on the scoresheet with crucial tries of their own in the second stanza.


https://www.dragons.com.au/news/2019/03/30/panthers-pip-cc-dragons/

 

[Saints Forever]

Pearson showed some genuine pace with 90 metre intercept try.

 

[LINESPEED]

Pearson showed some genuine pace with 90 metre intercept try.

That kind of pace can win tight games -

& we have 2 others who are faster & more complete footballers, who can create tries out of nothing - and who don’t need to be put in a hole from an offload or have tacklers drop off them to make their break?

Just sheer pace to beat their man without a hand being laid upon them

That’s exhilarating to watch, and disrupts defensive patterns - so bring it on

 

[Dragonsamy]

Tendon strain.
Was put thru full fittnes run today with Loamx Dufty and Friz. I think frizz will be named in the squad this week.
Luc played big minutes in the middle too, wouldn't be surprised if Lats misses out this week.

Thanks George
Good news re Frizz.
I thought luc was strong today and Is improving in d less bad reads

 

[Dragonsamy]

Pearson showed some genuine pace with 90 metre intercept try.

He is one of our quickest.
Not as fast as Duffy and field but up there

 

[Dragonsamy]

I was horrified when the souths forwards out pace Ravalawa in a kick through last week, so surely Pearson gets the nod. If Mary wants a kick returner & not someone who can score a try from inside our own half than Aitken would be just as potent, you could than put Lomax at centre so he can take the conversions.
Question: Do you think Latimore does enough to warrant his continual selection? especially as he seems to be carrying a knee injury with it heavily strapped.

Slippery
Pearson is a better choice. Re Latimore I agree I hope when Friz comes back (and that could be next week) that lats is the one to miss out.
But he is giving his best.
It's not his fault that Mary keeps picking him

 

[Como Connection]

He's an exciting prospect at 9 who can 13. Looked dangerous at times in goodball and was solid in D.

As long as Mary is aware.
CC

 

[BLM01]

The side has gone backwards since he has been in charge.

It is not so much backwards. We have had a reasonably talented side that like last year was knocking on the door. But they lack that hard ruthless edge in tight ones as in the Dragons prior to Wayne Bennett and in part the Dragons of recent years. They lose games they should'nt against weaker opposition and whilst they have pulled some wins out of their ying yang they make too many errors in tight ones and their defence over the years has been soft at times and have been run down from big leads.
JD had it. Even Kurt Mann said to me at the Steelers club one day when playing reggies I think in 2016 said I am enjoying it..least you know where you stand...ha

 

[kit66]

How did that Robinson person play!
CC

Wasn't a standout, missed a few tackles and when he made a half break from dummy half with 2 speed men backing up he failed to pass or even look, they were right there either side of him and in the clear.
He also looked small out there against those big Penrith forwards. He's well behind McIness you'd think.

The defence was pretty much what you'd expect in reserves but both Runciman and Ford were really solid for us as well as both making good metres, 120 and 146 respectively. I was surprised to see Runciman in the second row but he handled it well. Ford will push his way into firsts no problem, if not this year then next, he's got the makings of a great back rower.
Clune played really well, very dangerous, big heart but he's tiny. Field went OK but seemed to be carrying a leg / foot injury. Clune took the shots at goal and only nailed 2 / 5, if Lomax plays he nails most of them and we win. We also win if the refs weren't useless, they pulled up a beautiful close range try for a forward pass that wasn't - I'm not biased, Brett Kenny also called it TRY. Just on Kenny, love the guy, so great to hear him in the commentary box.
Luciano went OK but I think he's being misused and abused. Give him long minutes in firsts and he'll be a weapon. That's unlikely with Host firing so maybe give him some time in reserves in the front row but off the bench, see how he goes.
Timm made good metres and can hit hard but misses a few tackle at crucial moments.
Sokobalavu is a big boy, could be another Ah Mau, keep an eye on this one.

Of the backs Pearson stands out a mile, 197 metres, nice quick play the balls and some impressive footwork but needs to cut out the errors and work on his defence - he's almost there though, if Ravi fails I'd give him a run. Marsters also has great footwork and both he and Esau have speed - both coming along nicely. Sailor needs to grow, he's too small for 1sts.

 

[Drakon]

Wasn't a standout, missed a few tackles and when he made a half break from dummy half with 2 speed men backing up he failed to pass or even look, they were right there either side of him and in the clear.
He also looked small out there against those big Penrith forwards. He's well behind McIness you'd think.

The defence was pretty much what you'd expect in reserves but both Runciman and Ford were really solid for us as well as both making good metres, 120 and 146 respectively. I was surprised to see Runciman in the second row but he handled it well. Ford will push his way into firsts no problem, if not this year then next, he's got the makings of a great back rower.
Clune played really well, very dangerous, big heart but he's tiny. Field went OK but seemed to be carrying a leg / foot injury. Clune took the shots at goal and only nailed 2 / 5, if Lomax plays he nails most of them and we win. We also win if the refs weren't useless, they pulled up a beautiful close range try for a forward pass that wasn't - I'm not biased, Brett Kenny also called it TRY. Just on Kenny, love the guy, so great to hear him in the commentary box.
Luciano went OK but I think he's being misused and abused. Give him long minutes in firsts and he'll be a weapon. That's unlikely with Host firing so maybe give him some time in reserves in the front row but off the bench, see how he goes.
Timm made good metres and can hit hard but misses a few tackle at crucial moments.
Sokobalavu is a big boy, could be another Ah Mau, keep an eye on this one.

Of the backs Pearson stands out a mile, 197 metres, nice quick play the balls and some impressive footwork but needs to cut out the errors and work on his defence - he's almost there though, if Ravi fails I'd give him a run. Marsters also has great footwork and both he and Esau have speed - both coming along nicely. Sailor needs to grow, he's too small for 1sts.

Agree with most of what you said.

I thought the refs were very average.

Clune didn't take the shots for goal - it was Field. Personally, I thought Luc was average. He needs to find some mongrel - looks too afraid of getting hurt.

Ford is one to watch as you say. He's getting there. He's 21 years old and 95kg. He'll probably add a bit of weight to that frame.

 

[possm]

Wasn't a standout, missed a few tackles and when he made a half break from dummy half with 2 speed men backing up he failed to pass or even look, they were right there either side of him and in the clear.
He also looked small out there against those big Penrith forwards. He's well behind McIness you'd think.

The defence was pretty much what you'd expect in reserves but both Runciman and Ford were really solid for us as well as both making good metres, 120 and 146 respectively. I was surprised to see Runciman in the second row but he handled it well. Ford will push his way into firsts no problem, if not this year then next, he's got the makings of a great back rower.
Clune played really well, very dangerous, big heart but he's tiny. Field went OK but seemed to be carrying a leg / foot injury. Clune took the shots at goal and only nailed 2 / 5, if Lomax plays he nails most of them and we win. We also win if the refs weren't useless, they pulled up a beautiful close range try for a forward pass that wasn't - I'm not biased, Brett Kenny also called it TRY. Just on Kenny, love the guy, so great to hear him in the commentary box.
Luciano went OK but I think he's being misused and abused. Give him long minutes in firsts and he'll be a weapon. That's unlikely with Host firing so maybe give him some time in reserves in the front row but off the bench, see how he goes.
Timm made good metres and can hit hard but misses a few tackle at crucial moments.
Sokobalavu is a big boy, could be another Ah Mau, keep an eye on this one.

Of the backs Pearson stands out a mile, 197 metres, nice quick play the balls and some impressive footwork but needs to cut out the errors and work on his defence - he's almost there though, if Ravi fails I'd give him a run. Marsters also has great footwork and both he and Esau have speed - both coming along nicely. Sailor needs to grow, he's too small for 1sts.

When making a judgement on Robson's suitability for inclusion/consideration in a hooker rotation role, we also need to take into consideration his phycology right now. Through his entire junior career at the Dragons, he has achieved every success and lauded by all for his achievements. Not that it is time for him to take the next logical step he is being ignored by the first grade coaching staff while at the same time being offered lucrative contracts by other clubs.

I say Mary should at least give him a go and justify is selection decisions on criteria much more important than loyalty of self preference.

 

[kit66]

When making a judgement on Robson's suitability for inclusion/consideration in a hooker rotation role, we also need to take into consideration his phycology right now. Through his entire junior career at the Dragons, he has achieved every success and lauded by all for his achievements. Not that it is time for him to take the next logical step he is being ignored by the first grade coaching staff while at the same time being offered lucrative contracts by other clubs.

I say Mary should at least give him a go and justify is selection decisions on criteria much more important than loyalty of self preference.

These kids in Reserves need patiience, if not then see you later.

Cam McIness has been arguably our best player so far this year and could even be handed the Captaincy in Widdop's absence as early as next week. I'd also argue that he's still in contention for a Blue jersey.
He's not perfect, I'd personally like to see him engage the line more from dummy half before he passes the way C. Smith and Farrar do but he's young and like every other footballer has a lot to learn. Fact is though he's up there with the best and there's absolutely no reason bring in another Hooker at this stage and mess things up in our spine even more than they already are. The last thing I want to see is Saints go back to old days of rotating hookers, it's a waste of space on the bench and unnecessarily disruptive for minimum benefit.

 

[kit66]

Agree with most of what you said.

I thought the refs were very average.

Clune didn't take the shots for goal - it was Field. Personally, I thought Luc was average. He needs to find some mongrel - looks too afraid of getting hurt.

Ford is one to watch as you say. He's getting there. He's 21 years old and 95kg. He'll probably add a bit of weight to that frame.

Yeah sorry, meant to say Field doing the kicking.

Leilua's a rare talent, incredibly skillful with great vision and it takes a very smart coach to make the most of that. He's not a workhorse forward or a metre eater, he doesn't need grunt or aggression ( although I think you're wrong saying he lacks those ) he's a creator and facillitator as much as any 5/8 or HB but does it in the forwards. He's a guy you can build set plays around because he has the skills to deliver, he can also improvise. Let others do the heavy work and get this guy the ball. If Mary had a clue we'd be seeing Leilua at his best every week. The bonus with a player like that is that they also command the attention of the defence all the time, they're fantastic as decoys. It will be a crime if we never get to see this guy reach his full potential and I don't think his lack of opportunity to this point has been his fault.
I keep seeing him in a Roosters jersey.

 

[possm]

These kids in Reserves need patiience, if not then see you later.

Cam McIness has been arguably our best player so far this year and could even be handed the Captaincy in Widdop's absence as early as next week. I'd also argue that he's still in contention for a Blue jersey.
He's not perfect, I'd personally like to see him engage the line more from dummy half before he passes the way C. Smith and Farrar do but he's young and like every other footballer has a lot to learn. Fact is though he's up there with the best and there's absolutely no reason bring in another Hooker at this stage and mess things up in our spine even more than they already are. The last thing I want to see is Saints go back to old days of rotating hookers, it's a waste of space on the bench and unnecessarily disruptive for minimum benefit.

And if McInnes becomes fatigued or injured or selected as SOO hooker after Robson has left the Club? Our club should be proud to have two good hookers, especially the fact that both can play backrow as well. Remember, the last time we won the competition it was with two hookers in rotation.

 

[Wittenberg]

Was interesting watching Garrack playfor Manly yesterday. Only saw the last half hour but he seemed solid and certainly did not seem to provide the heart in mouth moments that our ‘Fijian Flyer’ produces for us.