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Kommitted Kimmorley; Bitching, bleating Bailey...

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Daily Tele
By JAMES HOOPER

November 27, 2003

KANGAROOS halfback Brett Kimmorley has re-affirmed his commitment to Cronulla for the next four years despite coach Chris Anderson facing the axe this week.


But fellow teammate Phil Bailey refused to offer a similar guarantee as the Australian team returned home from their 3-0 Ashes triumph over Great Britain.

Decision day has finally arrived for the Cronulla board, who seven weeks ago barred Anderson from talking to Sharks players or attending training sessions.


At the time it appeared the club was manoeuvring to sack Anderson, issuing him with three warning letters.


That stance does not appear to have changed despite Anderson winning back some minor support among club directors after leading an under-strength Australian team to a series victory in the north of England.


Both Cronulla president Barry Pierce and Anderson have expressed a desire to resolve the situation as quickly as possible with a meeting expected to be arranged today or tomorrow.


"We want things cleared up as soon as we can but at this stage we are still waiting to hear from Chris," Pierce said.


"He's only just arrived home so obviously he would probably appreciate a day to rest and then we can sit down."


After making his way through Sydney Airport customs yesterday Anderson said he wanted the issue resolved for the sake of the Cronulla players.


"It's important to get it sorted out straight away," Anderson said.


"[The players] want to know what direction they're going in. Pre-season is pretty hard training if you don't know what's happening."


While Kimmorley and Bailey are both staunch Anderson supporters only the Test centre has a get-out clause at Cronulla should the coach be sacked.


There has been speculation Bailey may link with the Bulldogs or St George Illawarra if Anderson moves on but he was quick to label that nothing more than talk at this early stage of the season.


"I don't really know for sure because I'm in the middle of contract negotiations for a bit of an upgrade at the moment," Bailey said. "It's too hard to say. I love Cronulla but you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't."


The Sharks' coaching dilemma is expected to be resolved by tomorrow with assistant Stuart Raper widely tipped to take over.


The drama upstaged the return home of the Impossibles, the group of Australian players who travelled to England widely tipped as the first team to lose an Ashes series since 1970.

The omission of Penrith grand final winger Luke Lewis from the third Test team was the other hot topic yesterday, with Lewis saying reports he wanted to come home after a selection snub were incorrect.

Coach Anderson called the article in question "disgraceful".

"To embarrass a young player in front of his peers I think is pretty poor," Anderson said.

and from today's SMH:
Kimmorley, another player lured to the Sharks by Anderson, said he was committed to the club for the next four seasons, but declined to comment on the coaching situation. - take note phil bailey you might learn something from a player with class
 
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a few points

"damned if you do and damned if you dont" - what the f**k does that mean?
damned by who? chris anderson and his manager?

it's about time phil bailey reaffirmed his commitment to cronulla like the great man brett kimmorley and quit these soap opera antics. bailey is an OK player, no superstar but at very least he should know better than this.

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as for CA's quote "To embarrass a young player in front of his peers I think is pretty poor" how does that contrast with the claims on nutley that have surfaced in the past week or two?.
 

Mr Angry

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For those who said "What does Kimmorley have to do to win you over"
KANGAROOS halfback Brett Kimmorley has re-affirmed his commitment to Cronulla for the next four years despite coach Chris Anderson facing the axe this week.
That has done it for me.
 

shadowboxer

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what about this comment from SMH

"At the moment, I'm happy at the Sharks," Bailey said. "I'd love Opes [Anderson] to still be coach there, that's the whole reason I came to Cronulla, otherwise I'd still be at Manly. I've become a better player and a better bloke because of him."

Still at Manly, HA!!! I think he does think he is a superstar. He has shown in the past how passionate he is playing for the sharks, but the talk of walking is cat and mouse games. Get a haircut hippy!!!
 

wittyfan

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"you're damned if you and you're damned if you don't"??? What the hell is he going on about???? :x
 

cheese

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You're damned if you do = "My upgrade request isnt going down to well with sludge .........Im a superstar damnit, i dont want to play for pittance"

You're damned if you don't = "I can get more money elsewhere........ f**k club pride, i want more money so i can get more pizzed on the weekends"



Mimis has turned this git into a money hungry grub.

Be gone bailey........next
 
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I'm not claiming to be Nostradamus, but this is unfolding just as I suspected, with Anderson using Bailey as a bargaining chip against the board. Bailey in the starting Australian side? Give me a break. Now he thinks he is a superstar who can dictate his salary and coach to the board. Now Bailey is using his Ando get-out clause to try and get the Sharks to give him more money.

George Mimis must be the real toast of the Sharks board right now.

And what's this nonsense with Bailey saying Opes made him the player he is? I agree that CA deserves some credit for having confidence in a young player but wasnt Bailey a captain of the junior Kangaroos? He needs to have more faith in himself and less in Chris Anderson - he was probably going places anyway with or without CA.
 
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ShireShark said:
"I don't really know for sure because I'm in the middle of contract negotiations for a bit of an upgrade at the moment," Bailey said.

How about thirty pieces of silver?
 

Sharkie73

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Bailey won't go any where because he will get an up graded contract, also whats been said about Nutly I haven't heard any of it????
 

Genius Freak

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Look, it would be nice to retain Bails, but if he doesn't wanna be here with all his heart and soul, then he can bugger off. He can make way for someone like Dean Triester who would die on the field if it meant a Sharks premiership. So many people said last year that one man (Preston) is not bigger than the team. Why should the situation be any different now?
 

Shark

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Hahahaha, Ando has a short memory. Poor performance to humiliate a player??? What about Deano, Coach??? You dope.

As for Bailey...Well, back a few seasons ago we had a young Hot Shot Centre who was prematurely propelled into a starting Kangaroos line up, based on some good short term form and a seriously misguided punt by the selectors! That move did wonders for his game! NOT!!!

Russ Richardson, come on DOWN!!!

Contract upgrade? Yeah mate, drop this p!ssweak 'get out' clause and you might have half a chance of a few more bucks. But otherwise, you can GAGF.
 

chileman

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shadowboxer said:
what about this comment from SMH

"At the moment, I'm happy at the Sharks," Bailey said. "I'd love Opes [Anderson] to still be coach there, that's the whole reason I came to Cronulla, otherwise I'd still be at Manly. I've become a better player and a better bloke because of him."

Still at Manly, HA!!! I think he does think he is a superstar. He has shown in the past how passionate he is playing for the sharks, but the talk of walking is cat and mouse games. Get a haircut hippy!!!
He's a good player but I doubt he'd come back to Manly.....his comments seem a bit airy fairy to me! :?
 

Houdini

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Genius Freak said:
Look, it would be nice to retain Bails, but if he doesn't wanna be here with all his heart and soul, then he can bugger off. He can make way for someone like Dean Triester who would die on the field if it meant a Sharks premiership. So many people said last year that one man (Preston) is not bigger than the team. Why should the situation be any different now?

My sentiments exactly. If Bailey doesn't want to be here, then I don't want him at the club. I don't want to see half-hearted players making half-hearted performances on the field. I wanna see a sharkies team give everything theyv'e got, every week.
 

gunnamatta bay

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Anderson's first priority would have been to meet with his legal people.

We might see Simon Crean and Ando go on the same day (week).
 

Shark

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LOL, Crean and Ando, what a pair!

Seriously, they would have to be at pretty similar odds, yeah? Goners, both of them.
 

Morpheus

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I felt the same thing as many here when I read the "damned if I do" words from Bailey.

It is a strange thing to say , implying that he is "Damned" is he stays at the club that changed him from a reserve grader to an international.

Not a good way to win over fans, although let's be a little easy on him, most footballers use phrases and Cliches without actually knowing what they mean.

Some gun toting cop in New york probably used the term "Damned if I do, Damned if I don't" in a movie on tha plane home and Bails thought it sounded pretty cool and know it all.....
 

Frenzy

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I think there are a few drama queens heres and that nearly everyone has taken the phrase out of context.

The quote again, with the lead in paragraph

There has been speculation Bailey may link with the Bulldogs or St George Illawarra if Anderson moves on but he was quick to label that nothing more than talk at this early stage of the season.

"I don't really know for sure because I'm in the middle of contract negotiations for a bit of an upgrade at the moment," Bailey said. "It's too hard to say. I love Cronulla but you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't."

The quote clearly refers to whether he goes or stays, we all agree on that.

But as to the meaning I think it's more likely to mean

"Damned if you do" = if he leaves the Sharks he'll have all the fans on his case.

"Damned if you don't" = if he doesn't leave the Sharks he'll have Ando loyalists, e.g. George Mimis on his case claiming he's not been loyal to the man/men who "made" him (or so they'll claim)

I think he's in a very hard situation for a young bloke.

That's my view of it and IMO makes more sense than the Bailey Bashing that's going on.
 
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