L6 v Manly.

[R&WTILLIDIE]

This 100% this, we finished 15th last year should we sign anyone nah we are good we brought back Kerr who was never good and and unproven halfback that's all we need.

Yeah mate. To be honest. I was happy when they resigned Flanagan. But at the end of the year, after finishing 15th, all they did was sign Kerr. I was hoping he was a genius. I was wrong.

 

[bubs]

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The comments and meme's should be great.

 

[jeffdragon]

He always plays like he’s concussed.

He thinks he can throw a dummy and score.
f**ks the attack.let the ball go.

 

[Saintsproud]

Who was the guy sitting on the bench next to Flanno in a dark suit? A psychologist to try and rev them up?

 

[Stewartliddle]

Shane the king of excuses holy shit. This guy is such a flog honestly can't stand him

 

[dungay dragon]

Part of me wonders whether he still wasn’t right from the concussion.

Yep totally agree Just appeared off the pace the entire game
In hind sight would ve been better to debut Reed this match , in preference to coming up against the heavy weights in Bunnies n Chooks next two weeks,,,
Kids have no fear these days , but really tough tests against those two
Thought Sloan was an improvement on Guthos efforts past few weeks
Desperately needed a smart organising half to feed him quality ball ...which we sadly lack.. but none about
Holmes is akin to Gutho ...been poor all season in attack and defence..
CT is oh so slow and injury prone as is Sele
Jason H and Egan , who is almost ready have got to come in
Sua is somehow finding his way in the back line stymying any form of attack we are attempting
Effort and Energy were there esp late first half early 2nd half but we have to be mindful.
of the opposition..They are just a few notches above us ..
We lack direction , organisation and are far too structured for the modern game.
If the Coach is removed we need a completely new Reset ,
All current co coaches go as well
Perhaps Hornby , Arthur , Matt King or Brentnall from the Storm
Fresh ideas New outlook

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[Stewartliddle]

Presser will be; can’t fault the effort, we beat ourselves, I’ll continue to work hard….

Worse. He was full of excuses, every single excuse he could think of was used.

 

[carltonsouth79]

I thought Sloan had a good game tonight. Ran for over 150 metres, 4 line breaks, a try assist and didn’t drop any bombs. He really had a dig. Setu rocks and diamonds as might be expected from an inexperienced player.Lids outstanding. Atko did some good things but just not effective as a halves paring with Flanno Jr. I think CTs injury and then Moses HIA really threw out our bench options. Reed may have got a run tonight save those injuries.
For the Bunnies I’d like to see:
Sloan
Feagai ( we don’t have anyone else)
Suli ( as above)
Val ( as above)
Atko
Reed
Seles
Lids
Toby
Luc
Sua
Stewart
bench: Flanno jr, Ryan, Blocka, LPT, Truck, Guler

 

[carltonsouth79]

Yep totally agree Just appeared off the pace the entire game
In hind sight would ve been better to debut Reed this match , in preference to coming up against the heavy weights in Bunnies n Chooks next two weeks,,,
Kids have no fear these days , but really tough tests against those two
Thought Sloan was an improvement on Guthos efforts past few weeks
Desperately needed a smart organising half to feed him quality ball ...which we sadly lack.. but none about
Holmes is akin to Gutho ...been poor all season in attack and defence..
CT is oh so slow and injury prone as is Sele
Jason H and Egan , who is almost ready have got to come in
Sua is somehow finding his way in the back line stymying any form of attack we are attempting
Effort and Energy were there esp late first half early 2nd half but we have to be mindful.
of the opposition..They are just a few notches above us ..
We lack direction , organisation and are far too structured for the modern game.
If the Coach is removed we need a completely new Reset ,
All current co coaches go as well
Perhaps Hornby , Arthur , Matt King or Brentnall from the Storm
Fresh ideas New outlook

.

Astute analysis for mine Dungay. I really agree that we need fresh eyes and ideas from coaches and some risks with younger players who can bring a spark and creativity

 

[DragonWileh]

When it comes to Kyle it’s the first time I’ve seen a teams attacking play get worse when the halfback touches it

 

[carltonsouth79]

Our problem lies more with the players than the coach. Yes, he has a great deal to answer for, but its the players who for the majority, are not first grade quality and unable to think quickly on their feet.

When Wayne came and provided us with a couple of great years and a premiership, he brought with him a list of players on the end of their careers. They combined well though with the mediocre players we had and played well above expectations. To the point, expectations shifted to accommodate the way they played. The players we had though had guts and determination and a love of the jersey.

Flanagan has brought in some level older heads with the mix of players we had on hand after some disastrous years. Maybe he was hoping to mix the group into a Wayne style winning formula, maybe thats all he could get from around the available players. To be fair, the media takes the piss out of us at every opportunity, run us down regardless of if we win or not and with the number of ex players (who hate the Dragons for their own reasons) who now manage talent (Anasta comes to mind straight off the bat), its a wonder no one wants to come here.

The players, at the end of the day, are the ones on the field that have been given a game plan to follow. Mistakes, stupid plays, lack of "something different" in attack are our biggest issues.

We do have some great juniors who may or may not mature into something special. We don't have anything special though at the moment though. That is why we are 0 - 6. Is there an answer though? Thats the 64 million dollar question. And frankly, I dont believe we will have one. Not now or anytime soon. Yes, we can sack the coach and reset, AGAIN. Or we can start and understand we need a rebuild. Do a Penrith.

We want results. That makes the club nervous. The club makes the coach nervous. The coach makes the players nervous. Lets understand we need to rebuild and accept that success will be another few years away but commit to that rebuild. Push the old wood out. Bring up the new wood and coach them properly. I believe Flanagan is a good coach and one capable of this commitment. The current crop of players though needs to be thinned. Drastically.

Holmes, Gutherson, Kerr, Flanagan, Lawrie, Feagai, Cook, and probably Guler need to go to bring up the juniors we currently have in reserve. Will they get results? probably not, at least for a while, but we will see a different version of this once proud club.

Sadly, Manly were not great tonight, which says measures of how bad we are going. Two of Manlys better players though were Dragons rejects. Food for thought.

A lot to agree with, however I think Flanno recruited most of not all the players you’ve noted, they are the players he wanted- sure we couldn’t get some big names, but Flanno picked these guys believing they could do a job and he could coach them to do it, neither has seemed to be the case unfortunately

 

[carltonsouth79]

Worse. He was full of excuses, every single excuse he could think of was used.

I’m not sure I can bear to watch it….

 

[Dragonsdiehard]

Well....you've got to crawl before you can walk... Better effort and more moments where individuals wanted it more but overall, I still don't think we are desperate enough.... lack of cohesion and/or confidence is hurting us as well.... and most of our attacking plays are being read like a book. Cook needs to be there more toward the end of the match to better manage and settle the frantic / panic plays the younger halves are prone to when the time pressure mounts.

 

[Dragonssupporter]

It doesn’t matter what gets said we lost again. Atko to 6 was a lot better and with Liddle having more minutes we did a lot better. But we need more than a lot better. Watching Kyle die with the ball so many times and basically offer nothing and then not seeing Reed come on once again showed Flannos nepotism hasnt been dented. Its embarrassing to watch CT once again show hes not 1st grade material , joined by Lawrie and Guler. Surely Flannos lack of player changes will finally be his downfall.
Did anyone else hear the booing again at the end of the match. Fox left it pretty quickly but im sure they even mentioned it

 

[Lovemedragons]

Yeah mate. To be honest. I was happy when they resigned Flanagan. But at the end of the year, after finishing 15th, all they did was sign Kerr. I was hoping he was a genius. I was wrong.

Me too

 

[Number of the Beath]

Sloan and Tu were bog average today but deserve to be first picked next week. That's how we are going.

Tu was rocks and diamonds. Emphasis on rocks.

 

[carltonsouth79]

It doesn’t matter what gets said we lost again. Atko to 6 was a lot better and with Liddle having more minutes we did a lot better. But we need more than a lot better. Watching Kyle die with the ball so many times and basically offer nothing and then not seeing Reed come on once again showed Flannos nepotism hasnt been dented. Its embarrassing to watch CT once again show hes not 1st grade material , joined by Lawrie and Guler. Surely Flannos lack of player changes will finally be his downfall.
Did anyone else hear the booing again at the end of the match. Fox left it pretty quickly but im sure they even mentioned it

To be fair I think the injuries to CT and Suli forced us to use our bench too early and couldn’t have got Reed into the game, presuming of course Flanno had that in mind….

 

[jeffdragon]

Who was the guy sitting on the bench next to Flanno in a dark suit? A psychologist to try and rev them up?

Ben Haran the turd.

 

[Gareth67]

Yet another loss , although yes there was some improvement , but for pity bloody sake just how much can a man , fan be expected to take . There’s not even a glimmer of sunlight shining on this overcast season . I would be improving their fitness for a start .

As for Flanagan’s coaching techniques , I would be taking a leaf out off Johnny Raper’s coaching manual and having the players run a few miles on the streets to build their fitness level to a acceptable level . Once back at Kogarah oval - I mean WIN stadium then throw a 5 kilo weight pack onto their back and run half a dozen laps of the oval , stadium , that at least would be a beginning for having the players to complete the match .

 

[DragonWileh]

Watching the broncos game I wouldn’t mind Jesse arthars he would bring some kind of attack and that’s better than what we have