last weeks kicking game.

[Chondricthyes]

Our kicking was OK.

Even if Nutter didn't have to this week which I'm sure would have squashed all debate!

Dykes- I agree with many senitments here.
1. his kicking was good not brilliant
2. he is a perfectionist and with no Noddy (who is outstanding and hard to live up to) I think he was a bit hard on himself
3. His ankle will definitely effect his kicking to a degree.
What that is depends on how bad IT is. ie-1. a needle will bugger it up.2. A no needle where it warms up OK will effect it only slightly.3. A no needle but v tight strapping and swelling going into the game- will effect it more than 3.
so its hard to tell - my feeling is more 2 than the rest and I think he is doing fine -remember Nod does do most of the pressure kicking so there is a practice element here.

Where do I get this - 20 years and a lot of bad ankles.
In saying that everyone is different.

 

[White Poiner]

Dykes's kicking wasnt great but it was alot better than bird, Though bird could prob be a good kicker he has alot of power in his boot.

 

[blacktip-reefy]

The kicking game was a good as our best kicking game last year.

 

[SirShire]

Some of the Covell-iers mentioned a little while ago that Covell played in the halves for some time as a junior. Anyone rate him as a decent kicked in play?

 

[sydneysharkbrisbane68]

I dont mind Vagana kicking in in attacking 20, has done a few this year for repeat sets or trys, what its doing is when vagana has ball on last in 20, opposing centre and winger have big chice centre must go to Vagana, and then winger does he stay back, which mean offload to Simmons and try on or does winger stay up and not drop back, Vagana then kicks and another try option or repeat six, its good idea prob once or twice going to vagana on last it keeps opposition not knowing, and then may risk not dropping back winger at all, allowing Noddy to kick to a lot of free space on line.

 

[blacktip-reefy]

they talk about his general play kicking a lot in Murwillumbah.
In particular the Tumbulgum hotel has a few stories about this character.
When I went there, to visit the "covell shrine" an old bloke was going on about Uncos chip & regather abilities.

 

[Frenzy.]

Our kicking was OK.

Even if Nutter didn't have to this week which I'm sure would have squashed all debate!

Dykes- I agree with many senitments here.
1. his kicking was good not brilliant
2. he is a perfectionist and with no Noddy (who is outstanding and hard to live up to) I think he was a bit hard on himself
3. His ankle will definitely effect his kicking to a degree.
What that is depends on how bad IT is. ie-1. a needle will bugger it up.2. A no needle where it warms up OK will effect it only slightly.3. A no needle but v tight strapping and swelling going into the game- will effect it more than 3.
so its hard to tell - my feeling is more 2 than the rest and I think he is doing fine -remember Nod does do most of the pressure kicking so there is a practice element here.

Where do I get this - 20 years and a lot of bad ankles.
In saying that everyone is different.

Full house!! Well played.....

When he was shown sitting on the sideline with ice on his calf you could see then that his ankle was strapped with the rigid Leukoplast type tape and not the regular more pliable LeukoSports and LeukoBand combo.

Perhaps they don't use the latter 2 anymore but when I was strapping footballers the Leukoplast was saved for the more severe ankle ligament ruptures as it has practically no "give" in it at all.

 

[Frenzy.]

I'll tell you why Da Vinci, because getting a kick to stop before the dead ball line gives us the chance to pin them for one in there own 10 or in goal. That's better than giving them zero tackle on the 20 and probably the 30 for one. Field position is measured in metres, you are giving away 20 odd metres for free.

Just on field position for a moment, I'd like to give Covell another wrap. His kick offs are a great improvement to us aswell. Instead of the opposition returning the kick off out towards the 30 metre line like last year, his extra height and distance sees us get 'em inside the 20 nearly every time.

I've already addressed that point. Read 2 up from your post.

 

[Dragon Slayer]

A couple of Dykes kicks just missed the corner flags. A metre or two the other side and they are brilliant. Fine line between a great kick and an average one!

I totally agree he was unlucky with some the diection of some of the bounces.
Also he would,ve been a bit rusty on the long kicking game as B.K has dominated that role in their halves partnership. Dykes has basically been on grubbing duties.

 

[spirit of league]

looks i'm late to the party again. i agree with reefy that our kicking vs panthers was about as good as anything last year. but don't even want to think about last year *shudder*. i tend to agree with miller's summation. sorry if that makes anybody uncomfortable. i also tried to work starch into the sentence but just couldn't get there. hehe

kicks went dead too often and the chase wasn't as good either. but while we're on the subject well done sully running up to put mellor on side for that try

 

[Macca]

I've already addressed that point. Read 2 up from your post.

So you think that we wouldn't have got them within the 20 or 10 at any stage if those kicks had sat up? That is an assumption and impossible to prove or disprove.

It's not the point though. The preference should always be to get the ball to stop before it goes dead. Field position follows.

 

[Frenzy.]

So you think that we wouldn't have got them within the 20 or 10 at any stage if those kicks had sat up? That is an assumption and impossible to prove or disprove.

It's not the point though. The preference should always be to get the ball to stop before it goes dead. Field position follows.

It's an assumption that we would of as well. The chase on any of those was poor because the kicks were long. So I'd ask you would you prefer Wesser or even Lewis were given 20-30 metres of open space?

You make it sound easy. It's obviously not.

Also if you kick the ball from inside your own half and it rolls dead you still get field position - at least 30 metres in fact. You also get a set defensive line. How many clean breaks did they make off their taps? How many times did they even make it to the halfway?

You can't always have what is preferable.

Terribly negative of people to say the kicking game was poor in fact

 

[Macca]

I have learned that a little negativity from time to time is healthy.

 

[millersnose]

dykes kicking game was poor davinci

wrap it up anyway you want

the fact remains

the dead kicks were mistakes

if noddy had of done that reefy would have 10 threads on it by now

 

[blacktip-reefy]

Actually I would have 1 thread for it.
How many 40/20's were kicked last year?

At any rate, good to see you admit Millers that Noddys kicking wasnt up to scratch for the size of his pay packet last year. The extra training he does now is obviously paying divedends this year & I think the fact he no longer kicks it dead & gets good metres on clearing kicks, contributes a lot to how or why we are winning.

 

[Frenzy.]

dykes kicking game was poor davinci

wrap it up anyway you want

the fact remains

the dead kicks were mistakes

if noddy had of done that reefy would have 10 threads on it by now

I bet a review of all games would show that Noddy kicks 2 or 3 go dead in most games, if not all.

It's apples and oranges anyway.

 

[Bastard Squad]

I bet a review of all games would show that Noddy kicks 2 or 3 go dead in most games, if not all.

It's apples and oranges anyway.

Maybe the question should be, how many did Dykes get to sit up in goal ?

 

[Mr Sharkie]

Maybe the question should be, how many did Dykes get to sit up in goal ?

Good point. Love Dykes as a ball player but his long kicks tend to be just that, too long.

 

[sydneysharkbrisbane68]

I would rather the kicks be to long then straight to the opposition fullback or wingers who can attack then from broken play, at least if kick goes dead we set defence and are ready, so yes his kicking game is nowhere near noddy, but at least gets the ball dead, then allowing opponent free space to return ball

 

[Mr Sharkie]

Also a good point!