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List of Dragons players who are no good

BIKER_DRAGON

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NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT

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HowHigh

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So would all the Bennett lovers love him if he was still Brisbane's coach?
I respected him as a great coach while he was with the broncos, but obviously I wasn't a fan seeing as he coached the opposition, and QLD as well.
 

Twizzle

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I thought Poppa Clay was overrated, should have been a back rower.

I mean how can you play bad when you have Billy Smith inside you and Changa and Gaz outside you.
 

Raider_69

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it'd really be a much shorter thread is we name the saints players that are good

Brett Morris, Michael Weyman.

End thread.
 

Poupou Escobar

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St George have a lot of good players in their 17, very few poor players in their 25, but are light on for stars.

They remind me of a couple of Eels sides of the past decade.
 

Big Pete

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You mean as opposed to the Broncos supporters that no longer love him?

There's Broncos fans who no longer support him?

I thought both Broncos and Dragons fans loved Uncle Wayne. It's a weird place, it's like when Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd find common ground.
 

dclayw

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St George have a lot of good players in their 17, very few poor players in their 25, but are light on for stars.

They remind me of a couple of Eels sides of the past decade.
Spot on there I reckon. That's why we want (and I think need) Gasnier back.
 

Someone

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Going by what I've read on these forums, the following St. George-Illawarra players are useless, over-rated, nuffy hacks:

- Ben Creagh
- Darius Boyd
- Ben Hornby
- Jamie Soward
- Matt Cooper
- Beau Scott
- Michael Weyman
- Dean Young
- Jason Nightingale

In fact, about the only Dragons player who is any good, as far as I can tell, is Brett Morris. Just goes to show how good a coach Bennett is: leading a winger and a team of nuffies to a minor premiership, and making a good start toward another one.

Seriously, whenever Bennett decides to give the coaching gig away, he MUST be appointed NRL chief. With his ability to polish turds into gold, the AFL will be a niche sport in Victoria within 3 years of Bennett taking over.

By the way, please feel free to add to the list. I'm sure I've forgotten a few.

Ben Creagh imo is a little overrated.

And Soward isnt playing to his potential.
 

drake

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As long as they play as well as a team as they have been, I really couldn't care less how our players are rated by others.

I've always thought Bennett was a great coach, but it wasn't until I read his books that I really appreciated the man. His track record is undisputed.

Even if we don't win the premiership and opposition fans and commentators call choke we still have the fact that since he took over, we have been a good footy side again.

Without a super team judging by the comments in this thread. :)
 

league

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so I take it if St George lose in September this year it's not a choke since they're a team stacked with overrated nuffies? surely you wouldn't expect them to win it, if all of the above mentioned are either overrated or not good enough...:?
 
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11Straight

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Going by what I've read on these forums, the following St. George-Illawarra players are useless, over-rated, nuffy hacks:

- Ben Creagh
- Darius Boyd
- Ben Hornby
- Jamie Soward
- Matt Cooper
- Beau Scott
- Michael Weyman
- Dean Young
- Jason Nightingale

In fact, about the only Dragons player who is any good, as far as I can tell, is Brett Morris. Just goes to show how good a coach Bennett is: leading a winger and a team of nuffies to a minor premiership, and making a good start toward another one.

Seriously, whenever Bennett decides to give the coaching gig away, he MUST be appointed NRL chief. With his ability to polish turds into gold, the AFL will be a niche sport in Victoria within 3 years of Bennett taking over.

By the way, please feel free to add to the list. I'm sure I've forgotten a few.
No need to give them extra ammuniton mate.

Just enjoy the season we are having.;-)
 
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Poupou Escobar

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so I take it if St George lose in September this year it's not a choke since they're a team stacked with overrated nuffies?

I don't think St George choked last year. They overachieved to the finals and once there they didn't have the spark to recover once they found themselves behind on the scoreboard. I expect more of the same this year unless, as dclayw suggests, you get Gasnier.

But St George aren't chokers. It's a stupid term - big games require players that can make something from nothing, and teams without these players don't do well in big games. It doesn't mean they're chokers, it just means they're missing the last piece of the puzzle.

Brisbane, Gold Coast and maybe Souths, Wests and Parra (and of course Melbourne) all have better teams for finals football. If St George get Gasnier they'll be up there with Brisbane and Gold Coast.
 

Jason Maher

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They are all top players, don't get me wrong. I think the issue is that a fair few of these players are overrated in terms of Origin and rep selection. But again, a fair bit of criticism is unwarranted.

- Ben Creagh

Very good player, strong ball runner, but has been quiet so far by his usual standards this season, and seems to struggle for impact at Origin level.

- Darius Boyd

Great ballplaying fullback, but lacks the linebreaking ability of a Stewart or Slater of Hayne. I still think he is a top player though, just doesn't get as much room on the fringes as when he used to play on the wing.

- Ben Hornby

He does his job. Not a rep standard player anymore by any means, but he performs his task every week, and gives the vital control needed to steer Dragons around the park.

- Jamie Soward

Similar to Ben Creagh, he is a great player who was in seriously hot form last year, but this year he hasn't been too good. Living off his past reputation a bit, but can still break a game wide open.

- Matt Cooper

Still and will always be a very good club player, but the consensus of fans seem to believe that his representative days are now behind him. Josh Morris, Michael Jennings, etc are better options for moving forward.

- Beau Scott

Another player who does his job for the club - tackle hard, provide good support, and protect his halves. Not a rep player by any means though, especially in the centres where his attack is limited, and I think that is where the criticism is coming.

- Michael Weyman

Much like Creagh and Soward, his season this year hasn't reached the levels he was hitting last year. Maybe his fitness is a bit down, but his workrate has dropped a tad and his mobility looks less.

- Dean Young

Like Hornby, not a rep player, but a good solid leadership role model in the pack who does his job for the team every week, great player.

- Jason Nightingale

People only say overrated because he played for NZ. In reality, NZ at full strength would have Perrett and Vatuvei on the wings, and the lack of form of more dynamic wingers like Locke and Inu gave Nightingale the opportunity. But his isn't overrated by any means.

In summary, I don't think the 'hatred' towards the Dragons players is warranted. Yes, some of their selections in representative teams might be unwarranted based on their current form, and they might be being picked based on yesteryears reputation, BUT Hornby, Nightingale, Young are solid club players, nothing wrong with them.

Decent post. I think the majority of our players are down on form compared to this stage last year - Creagh and Soward being the most obvious, but even a bloke like Beau Scott was playing a lot better individually last season, even doing things that centres tend to do on occasion. Which is strange, because as a team we look twice as good as we did last year. Bennett has really got the boys playing as a unit, and as a result individual performances don't stand out as much (the exceptions would be Boyd and Morris).

I really think ther players have learnt from last year where they came out all guns blazing, and ran out of puff. I think Bennett has worked hard on getting them to pace their effort better this year - do what is required to win, but keep something in reserve. I like it that way, even if it means a constant barrage from opposition supporters bagging our players. I think this year we will see the best from the likes of Soward and Creagh in the second half of the year, rather than the first half like we did last year (c.f Jarryd Hayne).
 

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