Liverpool fans being useful for a change.

[BunniesMan]

Watching a couple of Merseyside fans find Samir Nasri in his sportscar that his mercenary money paid for and sledging him made my day:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaNDKK_HGxY

Almost makes up for their little racism thing...

 

[WireMan]

Watching a couple of Merseyside fans find Samir Nasri in his sportscar that his mercenary money paid for and sledging him made my day:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaNDKK_HGxY

Almost makes up for their little racism thing...

Hmmm having a go at football players outside the game.
Not sure i like that.


Plus having a go at a guy who is on more money in a week than there unemployed benefits combined will cover in a year, not forgetting a guy with a succesful career whose team is top of the league;
Just because there failing, racist, wife beating team of mid table super stars won the first leg of the league cup is very small time.

 

[BunniesMan]

Hmmm having a go at football players outside the game.
Not sure i like that.


Plus having a go at a guy who is on more money in a week than there unemployed benefits combined will cover in a year, not forgetting a guy with a succesful career whose team is top of the league;
Just because there failing, racist, wife beating team of mid table super stars won the first leg of the league cup is very small time.

Most of that post is arguably a good point. The bit in bold I have to disagree with.

Being a bench player who has waved from terrible to mediocre for 95% of the limited action he has seen isn't being a "success". If most people, neutrals included, think that after selling you at the youthful age of 24 for 20 million is great value for the selling team...that's not success.

And ordinarily, I'd be against having a go at regular football players off the field. But he's a mercenary, he hasn't put together 1 entire great season in his time in the PL. His French national team manager has recently had a go at him in the media for being all about himself and a bad team player.

Some players don't deserve this. Some players do. He totally falls in the latter.

And if you think I'm saying that just as a bitter Arsenal fan, you're wrong. Even if City offered him back to us I wouldn't be happy if we paid anymore than 25% of what we got for him.

 

[WireMan]

Most of that post is arguably a good point. The bit in bold I have to disagree with.

Being a bench player who has waved from terrible to mediocre for 95% of the limited action he has seen isn't being a "success". If most people, neutrals included, think that after selling you at the youthful age of 24 for 20 million is great value for the selling team...that's not success.

And ordinarily, I'd be against having a go at regular football players off the field. But he's a mercenary, he hasn't put together 1 entire great season in his time in the PL. His French national team manager has recently had a go at him in the media for being all about himself and a bad team player.

Some players don't deserve this. Some players do. He totally falls in the latter.

And if you think I'm saying that just as a bitter Arsenal fan, you're wrong. Even if City offered him back to us I wouldn't be happy if we paid anymore than 25% of what we got for him.

Oh yeah, i agree with all that. He had a good half season when he was hyped upto silly levels.

He needs a good run at City to have a chance, and with Silva injured and Ballotelli being a big baby he may get it. He will more than likely be replaced though.


I meant succesful in that he has played at the very top level. Not very well, but he has played there. Which is better than those fans will ever get to in there chosen field.
Sorry for the confusion.

 

[BunniesMan]

Oh that point is fair enough. Those two will probably never achieve things in life comparable to what Nasri has, but if that stopped people from having a go at you, politicians, sportsmen, celebrities etc would be immune from being criticized by 99% of us.

 

[WireMan]

Oh that point is fair enough. Those two will probably never achieve things in life comparable to what Nasri has, but if that stopped people from having a go at you, politicians, sportsmen, celebrities etc would be immune from being criticized by 99% of us.

Fair enough!! Just a little small time. Getting abuse for driving home just because he plays for a different team.


Funny when they started to say they hope he doesn't win the league until they realised that if he doesn't win the league, it could easily be United winning number 20.

I bet those fans will be supporting him like crazy in a few weeks!!

 

[Tom Shines]

Oh noes! The bad men yelled words to a man who just earned more by sitting at the set of lights than the two Scousers do in an entire month. I'm sure he's real butt-hurt.

Speaking of butt-hurt, I've never for the life of me understood why Arsenal fans are so f**king whingy about "$amir the Mercenary" and his move to City.

Sure, he's being paid more than he was, but he has joined a team that has won more in recent history than Arsenal, and are more likely to over the course of his contract.

When SWP moved to Chelsea, City fans were upset and disappointed that they lost one of their own, but could see he moved for football reasons, and were grateful for the £20m that the club desperately needed. Maybe Arse fans should feel the same way.

 

[CC_Eagle]

Oh noes! The bad men yelled words to a man who just earned more by sitting at the set of lights than the two Scousers do in an entire month. I'm sure he's real butt-hurt.

Speaking of butt-hurt, I've never for the life of me understood why Arsenal fans are so f**king whingy about "$amir the Mercenary" and his move to City.

Sure, he's being paid more than he was, but he has joined a team that has won more in recent history than Arsenal, and are more likely to over the course of his contract.

When SWP moved to Chelsea, City fans were upset and disappointed that they lost one of their own, but could see he moved for football reasons, and were grateful for the £20m that the club desperately needed. Maybe Arse fans should feel the same way.

SWP did more as a benchwarmer than Samir is doing at the moment though?

The difference between the two is enormous. SWP leaving City in what was it, 2005/6(?) when they were mid-table at best, for the current league champions totally makes sense. Samir left Arsenal (when they were still a genuine title contender) after the club was already gutted by the Fabregas saga and was desperate to retain it's best players. And did so in a far from honourable or discreet way.

The fact a player was sold to club X or City is irrelevant. Clichy made it clear to Arsene behind closed doors that he wanted to move, and did so in the 'right' way. The same goes with Toure - not one Arsenal fan holds a grudge against either player merely because they moved to City for a higher wage. Adebayor, Nasri, Cole and to a lesser extent Gallas, are all disliked because of the way in which they initiated their respective transfers, and the disrespectful behaviour during and after said transfers.

Samir is a merkin though. At first I thought it was a case of Gallas being a sook combined with media beat-up, but it's hard to ignore so many reports from different sources. His merkininess is irrelevant if he is playing good football though, but at the moment I doubt any City fan could say that he is.

 

[BunniesMan]

Oh noes! The bad men yelled words to a man who just earned more by sitting at the set of lights than the two Scousers do in an entire month. I'm sure he's real butt-hurt.

Speaking of butt-hurt, I've never for the life of me understood why Arsenal fans are so f**king whingy about "$amir the Mercenary" and his move to City.

Sure, he's being paid more than he was, but he has joined a team that has won more in recent history than Arsenal, and are more likely to over the course of his contract.

When SWP moved to Chelsea, City fans were upset and disappointed that they lost one of their own, but could see he moved for football reasons, and were grateful for the £20m that the club desperately needed. Maybe Arse fans should feel the same way.

If he was playing a meaningful role in Citys success, he'd earn a little more respect. In the longterm if he doesn't turn things around he's ruined his career and legacy for the sake of an increased pay.

THAT is hard to digest. It's not like what we were paying forced him to get by on 2nd hand clothes. We were making him rich and he's gone elsewhere to become even RICHER and it seems like he doesn't mind a vastly reduced role.

And don't say he moved for trophies. It had nothing to do with that. United wanted him, United the reigning champs, United who actually needed a player like him to play a key role for them and not just be a fancy toy on the bench, but he rejected them because they couldn't pay what City has.

If he went to United, we wouldn't have hated him as much, if he went to City and actually played like the superstar wages he's getting, we wouldn't hate him as much, if he left us the right way, we wouldn't hate him as much.

Have a look at how the majority of us feel towards Fabregas, and how we feel towards Nasri. We're not psychotics who hate any player who dares leave us. Fabregas left the right way, he didn't leave for money and now he's an important player in the worlds best team, none of which can be said for Nasri.

 

[Tom Shines]

Right, so it's just another bad old Citeh are ruining football thing. That's all I needed to know.

 

[CC_Eagle]

Right, so it's just another bad old Citeh are ruining football thing. That's all I needed to know.

Not really.

City offered the dollars, Na$ri didn't necessarily have to accept their offer. Historically, if he wanted to win trophies he would have gone to United.

If he really wants success, he should quit football and start a career as a K.D Lang impersonator.

 

[WireMan]

When SWP moved to Chelsea, City fans were upset and disappointed that they lost one of their own, but could see he moved for football reasons, and were grateful for the £20m that the club desperately needed. Maybe Arse fans should feel the same way.

Picked for England, starting every week at City.
Move to Chelsea to sit on the bench if he was lucky...

No one thought he went for footballing reasons. He went for the money.


But then no fan can have cry about that though, SWP and Nasri are not the only players to be motivated by money. How many times has the argument "He could earn a lot more playing for a different team" being used.


Fabregas whored himself out to Barca and even wore a Barca top the year before he left. He showed zero loyalty to Arsenal signing a long term contract in the knowledge he was going to Barca.
Not sure why he has earned more respect than Nasri unless Arsenal fans think joining City is a step down? When it really isn't nowadays. Arsenal are 5th for a reason.

 

[BunniesMan]

Picked for England, starting every week at City.
Move to Chelsea to sit on the bench if he was lucky...

No one thought he went for footballing reasons. He went for the money.


But then no fan can have cry about that though, SWP and Nasri are not the only players to be motivated by money. How many times has the argument "He could earn a lot more playing for a different team" being used.


Fabregas whored himself out to Barca and even wore a Barca top the year before he left. He showed zero loyalty to Arsenal signing a long term contract in the knowledge he was going to Barca.
Not sure why he has earned more respect than Nasri unless Arsenal fans think joining City is a step down? When it really isn't nowadays. Arsenal are 5th for a reason.

Fabregas is different. He didn't choose to go to the team that can pay him more than any other. If he did ask to go to the highest bidder he'd have made so much more than what he's currently on.

He wanted to go home. He didn't go to chase $.

Nasri didn't care about trophies, he didn't care about home, he wanted to go to the team that would make him even more filthy rich while knowing he'd have a much much much more reduced role than with us or United or Chelsea.

FFS City makes Chelsea look respectable. Chelsea goes nuts with transfer fees but even they are restrained when it comes to wages.

 

[Red Bear]

 

[CC_Eagle]

:lol::lol:

 

[the_flight_of_the_magpie]

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