Lomu's transplant

[mullet]

news just heard on sports tonight. The kidney transplant went well

Good news :!:

 

[Iafeta]

Great news - not overly fussed about the rah-rah aspect of it, just hope for his sake it keeps going nicely. He deserves a good future considering some of the memories he gave in the past. Remember him running over that Underwood bloke? And then Catt? Ripper.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

All the best big fella, you deserve it.

While a return to football has to be extremely unlikely I think Jonah stands a good chance of regaining his health, and thats the most important thing.

 

[ozbash]

see they put the new kidney under his rib cage.
just in case he decides to take up contact sport it will be more protected.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

I have no doubt that if he recovers ok Jonah will get back into training and at least attempt a comeback. The guy played almost his entire career with his kidneys hardly working, so I think in hindsight people grossly underestimated how hard he worked to be where he was. I think he has the desire, it's more a question of will his body let him. Wouldn't it be the greatest sporting fairytale ever if he pulled it off though?

 

[Phillips]

if it was not for him....they would never have made Jonah Lomu Rugby, hope everything goes well for him

 

[kia ora storm]

Excelllent news for Jonah...Rathbone has been smashed once by the PI's and should be recovered in time for the hit that Jonah will put on him in a few years time !!.

;-)

 

[ThrashViking]

Dont expect him to be playing anytime soon lads,
One of the three drugs he must remain on for the rest of his life is on the World Anti-Doping agency's banned list.
Prednisone - designed to help the body continue to accept a new kidney is a steroid.
He'll be banned if he's caught playing at a top level thus no Jonah.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Dont expect him to be playing anytime soon lads,
One of the three drugs he must remain on for the rest of his life is on the World Anti-Doping agency's banned list.
Prednisone - designed to help the body continue to accept a new kidney is a steroid.
He'll be banned if he's caught playing at a top level thus no Jonah.

You forget that the anti-doping laws allow banned drugs to be taken if there is a legitimate medical requirement for them, Adam McDougal has been openly taking a banned drug for years and Willie Mason has recently sought clearance to take a banned substance to control his ADHD. That aspect of it will not be an issue, the biger question is simply will his health ever recover sufficiently to allow him to attempt a comeback.

 

[rugged]

The drugs he'll have to take will knock him around, but remember he was playing for years with bad kidney problems and all sorts waste products in his blood, so he possibly could come back to rugby if the neuropathy thing reverses itself.

 

[ThrashViking]

The only way Lomu will get to play is if the IRB offer him a steroid exemption something rivals like England, South Africa and Australia are unlikely to consider.
Unlike anabolic steroids which are used to build up the body - Prednisone breaks down stored resources (fats, sugars and proteins) to use as fuels in times of stress.
That would give a rugby player an unfair advantage.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

The only way Lomu will get to play is if the IRB offer him a steroid exemption something rivals like England, South Africa and Australia are unlikely to consider.
Unlike anabolic steroids which are used to build up the body - Prednisone breaks down stored resources (fats, sugars and proteins) to use as fuels in times of stress.
That would give a rugby player an unfair advantage.

Couldn't the same argument be applied to McDougal?
As for other unions complaining, wouldn't the final decision rest with the IRB?

 

[ThrashViking]

What’s Mad Dog taking? I knew he served a suspension for drug use four years ago but I wasn’t aware of him having to take steroids for medical problems.
Joe McDonnell got in the poo for taking an anabolic steroid for his asthma but as I said earlier that’s completely different to a steroid like Prednisone.
I’m pretty sure the final decision rests with the IRB but other Unions can launch an appeal, I’ll have to look into it as im not 100% certain.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

What’s Mad Dog taking? I knew he served a suspension for drug use four years ago but I wasn’t aware of him having to take steroids for medical problems.
Joe McDonnell got in the poo for taking an anabolic steroid for his asthma but as I said earlier that’s completely different to a steroid like Prednisone.
I’m pretty sure the final decision rests with the IRB but other Unions can launch an appeal, I’ll have to look into it as im not 100% certain.

As far as I know MacDougal had some freak accident in training years ago that resulted in him damaging one of the glands that produces some hormone or other. He needs to take hormone replacements or apparently he'll start copping some of the unpleasant side effects that you can cop from having your hormonal balance out of whack (he'd probably startr growing boobs and turn int Owen Cragie or something!). Whatever he takes is on the banned substance list but he has a clear medical reason for it so it is allowed.

 

[ThrashViking]

A press statement just released confirms the donor was Grant Kariama :shock:
I know most Australians won’t know who he is but he was the co-host of Lotto in the mid 90's and co-hosts one of Wellington's top rating morning radio shows.
He also lost to Nick Trott in last years Fight for Life

 

[Auckland4ever]

The only way Lomu will get to play is if the IRB offer him a steroid exemption something rivals like England, South Africa and Australia are unlikely to consider.

You might be right, but Jonah back playing again(if possible) would be huge & good for the game, they might take that into consideration.

He needs to take hormone replacements or apparently he'll start copping some of the unpleasant side effects that you can cop from having your hormonal balance out of whack (he'd probably startr growing boobs and turn int Owen Cragie or something!).

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[rugged]

Surely Lomu and his minders would have investigated the drugs aspect before coming out with thoughts of returning.

 

[ThrashViking]

It is very doubtful that Jonah will ever make it back to All Black or even Super 12 level, but he probably could play club rugby again. However, with the risks involved, why would he want to play club rugby?

The difference between elite and sub-elite players is not all that great percentage wise (in terms of total ability) and there is no doubt being a transplant recipient would decrease Jonah's playing ability (even just taking into account the Prednisolone tablets).

Even without the kidney problems, Jonah is at an age when many elite players no longer cut the mustard due to chronic body wear and tear. The ones who can play at elite level after 30 are generally players who have suffered very few injuries and illnesses over their career.

Jonah peaked as a player in the 1995 World Cup. Seeing him dominate the world cup again would be an impossible dream, like (now) seeing Greg Norman finally win a US Masters or seeing Martina Navratilova win another women's singles crown at Wimbledon.

He gave us alot of good memories but the NZRFU's money is best spent on the next generation of wingers - Sitivini Sivivatu, Brent Ward and Hayden Pederson

 

[SpaceMonkey]

The difference between elite and sub-elite players is not all that great percentage wise (in terms of total ability) and there is no doubt being a transplant recipient would decrease Jonah's playing ability (even just taking into account the Prednisolone tablets).

Normally I'd agree with that but you haven't taken into account the fact that he's played most of his career with vastly reduced kidney function, so to get to where he was he does not have to actually be fully fit by normal standards, if the transplanted organ gives him 50% function he'll actually be healthier than for much of his playing career. All that said I still find the possibility of a return unlikely.

 

[booeycollector]

Great news. Hope all is well. Hopefully we will see him back running towards our Wallabies.