Its stunning that people who have previously mocked Mundine for making comments that aren't worth taking seriously, are suddenly falling over themselves to highlight the "seriousness" of his comments...
Mundines comments, in relation to the US attacks, were of a far more noticeable & significantnature than anything he's ever said before. What I'm trying to say is that the seriousness of his comments were taken seriously because he chose to respond to a serious issue. Nobody was playing Russian roulette with him at the time. He chose to respond to the question, instead could have quite easily have told the interviewer that it was a subject he didn't wish to discuss. Given the importance of the topic, and the emotions and tension still in the air,how can you honestly expect people to not take his comments seriously? The vast majority of the people who eventually found out about his comments around the world, haven't even heard of him.If you honestly do not believe that Mundine's comments should not have been taken seriously by the world's public and media, then I believe you are missing the point.
At any rate, the comments of a boxer shouldn't shake the world to its foundations, as anyone who enters a profession that involves taking repeated punches to the head is not going to be a social commentator of immense intellectual rigour!
Then those very people should at the very least possess the basic intelligence of choosing their words carefully, or when not to comment. It really isn't that difficult.It says a lot about Mundine.
Ali is considered a Saint these days, but I can remember the crap that he used to go on with in his halcyon days.
I don't know of anbody who has called Ali a Saint. Not then, not now. The admiration that people display for Ali at present is more due to 'feeling sorry' for a champion who has succumb to a horrible and crippling (in its own way) desease (Parkinsons), rather than a man of innocence or a Saint as you incorrectly refer to it. The crap he use to go on with in his halcyon days, as you refer to it, is known by just about all as 'self promotion.' No sporting figure, then or now,promoted themselves to the extent that Ali did in his prime. If you elect to refer to it as crap, then that's your given right. I just think it's incorrect defition on your behalf.
I find the recent attempts by the boxing fraternity to put him forward as their contemporary social poster boy insulting in the extreme.
I may be missinterpreting this comment of yours, but I'll address it the way I understand it. Please be so kind as to name particular instances where that has happened. I honestly cannot remember the last time (within the last few years)that Boxing used Ali to promote, advertise, sell, endorse or flogg off any thing. Boxing has a huge following globally. The sport itself, and the fighters themselves (that currently fight) sell the product not ex-champions.
He's indeed a tragic figure as he shuffles before the cameras and mumbles (barely intelligibly) to the microphones
Parkinsons is indeed a tragic disease. But somehow that is not the way I'm interpreting your post. If his mumbling at a barely intelligible rate, and his shuffling (due to Parkinsons), then it certainly is a tragic sight.But somehow I get the feeling you're mocking him. To say he's a tragic figure now, through no direct fault of his (there isn't enough information about the disease to label his illness the direct result of his boxing days - contrary to popular belief), is correct if the statement is used to describe a champion who has sadly deteriorated. But if the statement is used to point the finger and laugh, then that's cruelty at it's best (worst).
If he's a poster boy for anything, then he should be a poster boy for calls to end this joke of a sport.
Merely you opinion, which you have the right to express.
Its become a breeding ground for lowlife sharks and shonky gambling types
Are you talking about Cricket?
it has little aesthetic charm
It was never intended to be a sport of 'beauty.' and spits men out as degraded wrecks at the end of their sorry careers.
Degraded wrecks is an over exagerration. But if one was to use that definition, I ask you,how many other sports persons would also fall under the same catagory at the conclusion of their careers?
Cheers CyberKev2002 - Atilla
Mundines comments, in relation to the US attacks, were of a far more noticeable & significantnature than anything he's ever said before. What I'm trying to say is that the seriousness of his comments were taken seriously because he chose to respond to a serious issue. Nobody was playing Russian roulette with him at the time. He chose to respond to the question, instead could have quite easily have told the interviewer that it was a subject he didn't wish to discuss. Given the importance of the topic, and the emotions and tension still in the air,how can you honestly expect people to not take his comments seriously? The vast majority of the people who eventually found out about his comments around the world, haven't even heard of him.If you honestly do not believe that Mundine's comments should not have been taken seriously by the world's public and media, then I believe you are missing the point.
At any rate, the comments of a boxer shouldn't shake the world to its foundations, as anyone who enters a profession that involves taking repeated punches to the head is not going to be a social commentator of immense intellectual rigour!
Then those very people should at the very least possess the basic intelligence of choosing their words carefully, or when not to comment. It really isn't that difficult.It says a lot about Mundine.
Ali is considered a Saint these days, but I can remember the crap that he used to go on with in his halcyon days.
I don't know of anbody who has called Ali a Saint. Not then, not now. The admiration that people display for Ali at present is more due to 'feeling sorry' for a champion who has succumb to a horrible and crippling (in its own way) desease (Parkinsons), rather than a man of innocence or a Saint as you incorrectly refer to it. The crap he use to go on with in his halcyon days, as you refer to it, is known by just about all as 'self promotion.' No sporting figure, then or now,promoted themselves to the extent that Ali did in his prime. If you elect to refer to it as crap, then that's your given right. I just think it's incorrect defition on your behalf.
I find the recent attempts by the boxing fraternity to put him forward as their contemporary social poster boy insulting in the extreme.
I may be missinterpreting this comment of yours, but I'll address it the way I understand it. Please be so kind as to name particular instances where that has happened. I honestly cannot remember the last time (within the last few years)that Boxing used Ali to promote, advertise, sell, endorse or flogg off any thing. Boxing has a huge following globally. The sport itself, and the fighters themselves (that currently fight) sell the product not ex-champions.
He's indeed a tragic figure as he shuffles before the cameras and mumbles (barely intelligibly) to the microphones
Parkinsons is indeed a tragic disease. But somehow that is not the way I'm interpreting your post. If his mumbling at a barely intelligible rate, and his shuffling (due to Parkinsons), then it certainly is a tragic sight.But somehow I get the feeling you're mocking him. To say he's a tragic figure now, through no direct fault of his (there isn't enough information about the disease to label his illness the direct result of his boxing days - contrary to popular belief), is correct if the statement is used to describe a champion who has sadly deteriorated. But if the statement is used to point the finger and laugh, then that's cruelty at it's best (worst).
If he's a poster boy for anything, then he should be a poster boy for calls to end this joke of a sport.
Merely you opinion, which you have the right to express.
Its become a breeding ground for lowlife sharks and shonky gambling types
Are you talking about Cricket?
it has little aesthetic charm
It was never intended to be a sport of 'beauty.' and spits men out as degraded wrecks at the end of their sorry careers.
Degraded wrecks is an over exagerration. But if one was to use that definition, I ask you,how many other sports persons would also fall under the same catagory at the conclusion of their careers?
Cheers CyberKev2002 - Atilla
