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Luai the tigepie.

Nutz

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Is this a problem. Melbourne have 2 running halves. The Dogs have two running halves.

I don't blame Luai for Latu not playing great but I don't think either of them have been that bad. We aren't denting the line and I think it's hard for the team to play with a lack of go forward.
Good points.
 

WA Tiger

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I thought Latu's last game, was perhaps his worst game. Not sure why, but he seemed shell shocked?
how would you play with Luai who is in charge of a team that is in line for the spoon after being paid a mil + to make sure we are at least top half.. and he’s come back from a losing origin and as a gold chain homie his emotional solutions for his fellow team members are limited and prob overly abrasive and lacking the tact and encouragement that Latu needs.. again why is Luai taking all the kicks ? Another one of his dumb strict rules
 
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WA Tiger

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how would you play with Luai who is in charge of a team that is in line for the spoon after being paid a mil + to make sure we are at least top half.. and he’s come back from a losing origin and as a gold chain homie his emotional solutions for his fellow team members are limited and prob overly abrasive and lacking the tact and encouragement that Latu needs.. again why is Luai taking all the kicks ? Another one of his dumb strict rules
Luai’s mindset would be that of a typical thug , an emotionally and cognitively unintelligent captain when things are going really badly.. .. not how can I bring this kids game out but I have to fix this by myself..we will worry about all the other stuff later. I just need to play like I’m paid to first. Thats the trap a lot of CEO’s can fall into when under the pump
 
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Tiger05

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I thought Latu's last game, was perhaps his worst game. Not sure why, but he seemed shell shocked?

I think he is being judged a little harshly. He was good defensively and I thought his service was fine. He just didn't create anything with his running or passing game.

I thought Galvin made a tonne of mistakes with us but Latu hasn't been doing that and I'm okay with it.

In stating that he needs to work on his kicking game and be a second option. He also needs to run more.
 

WA Tiger

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My take is that Luai is the dominant half and he should be. We also need Latu as a second option but I think his kicking game is the worst part of his game.
Really how so.. it can’t be as bad as Luai’s .. I think if Latu could be given half a chance at taking charge instead of just doing the basics and bear minimum we’d see a completely different team flowing from that.. Latu would thrive with some leadership.. Thats why he killed it when AD and Twal were the gatekeepers.. instead of grumpy fk
 

Aliceinwonderland

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I've been reading this thread for many weeks. Here are my thoughts, I'm attempting to be constructive. Because the team has improved this year. But with that happening, all other clubs have improved too.

As I've said many times before Luai is a great running 5/8th. Not the type of player who organizes the team around him naturally.
He's very much in the Benji style of player, and probably why they get on so well.

Can he learn these skills, I believe he can. He is able to do it with international games when playing for Samoa. Problem is NRL is every week. This learnt skill will take time and commitment. Basically building a team around Luai, to help cover his weaknesses.

Is that Latu's style. I've not seen enough of him to make that judgement.

All of this will take time. Sadly your team is already coming from a low base which means it might take longer.

These are just my thoughts on the matter. Luai is a courageous and brilliant player, just remember not to shove him into a square peg, when he requires a round hole.

PS I don't think you'll get the spoon in 25. I think the Bunnies will. They are gone big time.
 

WA Tiger

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Those numbers are ordinary behind a beaten pack though
Sure but for try assists more times than not he’s been in front of the posts plenty of times in prime positions but just can’t pull it off.. he just can’t see it..those are shit numbers ..you put Benji in a paper bag he would find a way to create the extra man 9 times out of 10 if he’s near the sideline
 
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Tiger05

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Those numbers are ordinary behind a beaten pack though

At best he hasn't had a good year.

At the same time I'm not worried about him. We need Latu to become a top tier player, we need Api to play better, we need Bula to step up and we need a couple of forwards. I'm less worried about Luai than I am about all those other issues.
 

Pezz70

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At best he hasn't had a good year.

At the same time I'm not worried about him. We need Latu to become a top tier player, we need Api to play better, we need Bula to step up and we need a couple of forwards. I'm less worried about Luai than I am about all those other issues.
I think Bula is a gun, has done some good things and looks dangerous whenever he gets the ball in a side that has struggled in attack. I think our left side, with Samuela, Taylan May and Bula chiming in could be really dangerous into the future. Just need to get some fluency and cohesiveness which we have really struggled with this season, and to me it’ll come if Luai straightens up a bit, showed signs when Douehi was 5/8
 

Front-rower2

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I said in a previous post that Luai isn't the problem, it's some of the guys around him who aren't up to it. If you watch how he links with May, who understands his role in the centres, we see what Luai is capable of.

We've lost at least three games this year we should have won (Newcastle, Warriors and Souths at Campbelltown and maybe you can even add in the Cowboys at Townsville if we didn't cop all those sin bins). We win those we are sitting top 8 and have a bye in hand. It hasn't been great and our coach is probably not quite up to it but we are in a lot better shape than the last 2 years.
 

Vic Mackey

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I said in a previous post that Luai isn't the problem, it's some of the guys around him who aren't up to it. If you watch how he links with May, who understands his role in the centres, we see what Luai is capable of.

We've lost at least three games this year we should have won (Newcastle, Warriors and Souths at Campbelltown and maybe you can even add in the Cowboys at Townsville if we didn't cop all those sin bins). We win those we are sitting top 8 and have a bye in hand. It hasn't been great and our coach is probably not quite up to it but we are in a lot better shape than the last 2 years.

Ill reserve judgement on Luai until the end of next year. I do think hes hamstrung by extremely conservative gameplans and attacking structures. He also didnt get to pre season until the 3rd week of January and was seemingly meant to be taking a step back to allow a 19 year old to be the main attacking threat.

With us missing the finals and Samoa not going to England he'll be here for a lot more of the pre season. We'll also have our 1/6/7/9 and their back ups settled for the first time in probably a decade which will no doubt help.
 

Perth Tiger

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Ill reserve judgement on Luai until the end of next year. I do think hes hamstrung by extremely conservative gameplans and attacking structures. He also didnt get to pre season until the 3rd week of January and was seemingly meant to be taking a step back to allow a 19 year old to be the main attacking threat.

With us missing the finals and Samoa not going to England he'll be here for a lot more of the pre season. We'll also have our 1/6/7/9 and their back ups settled for the first time in probably a decade which will no doubt help.
Agreed. It feels like this whole preseason was completely wasted as soon as Galvin threw his toys out of the cot. Everyone would of trained to play Galvin ball and then having to change everything mid season was always going to fail.

Hopefully next year brings a lot more stability which we can then build on
 
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Tiger Ted

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Agreed. It feels like this whole preseason was completely wasted as soon as Galvin threw his toys out of the cot. Everyone would of trained to play Galvin ball and then having to change everything mid season was always going to fail.

Hopefully next year brings a lot more stability which we can then build on
I don’t want to come across as being malevolent but I wouldn’t mind Galvin copping a season ending injury this Sunday preferably in the 79th minute while trying to tackle Luai as he scores the match winning try
 

Tiger05

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I don’t want to come across as being malevolent but I wouldn’t mind Galvin copping a season ending injury this Sunday preferably in the 79th minute while trying to tackle Luai as he scores the match winning try

I'm not a prick and I don't wish Galvin ill but I don't wish him well either.
 
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