Luke off to the warriors

[BranVan3000]

not a bad point. Luke is only 27 though. still in his prime. they'd have to have a lot of confidence in McInnes' potential and coming good on that because Luke (and a f**king quality #9 in general for any team) makes such a difference to Souths' play. The players out wide lose their effectiveness if there is no penetration in the middle and the #9 is crucial to this.

You are right, and on that note our backs looked much better last year when Mcinnes and Api were getting a ton of game time. Both of those players have accurate long passing games that Luke simply doesn't. The halves were able to stand further back knowing this creating more movement

But nobody is more effective than making sure you have a roll on through the middle than Luke on his day

 

[JJ]

You'd think with all those forwards that they'd dominate every week, giving Johnson a platform to work his magic. Forwards aren't the problem for warriors, but getting them all to perform consistently has been a problem for years. I actually love the way warriors pack can steam roll teams when they're 'on' and with your backline they play some beautiful football. But they don't dominate on a weekly basis ( maybe it's the coaching?).

Certainly the coaching is a question.

You obviously haven't been watching, generally our forwards have been laying the platform - the problem has been the guys in jerseys 1-7 and 9 - Manu aside, and to an extent Townsend.

 

[Dutchy]

Not happy to see him go but we have depth at hooker. Keeping Johnston is more important. We have so little in the outside backs.

Yes, a winger is more important than the second best hooker in the world.

 

[DiegoNT]

Certainly the coaching is a question.

You obviously haven't been watching, generally our forwards have been laying the platform - the problem has been the guys in jerseys 1-7 and 9 - Manu aside, and to an extent Townsend.

Forwards playing consistent has been a huge problem for the warriors since their last grand final. At the warriors best, their forwards run hard and on the the back of that they start getting offloads and the so called 'jungle ball'. But a lot of the time the warriors forwards want to play that flamboyant football without simply doing the hard runs first. Their is no doubt warriors have one of the best packs on paper, the problem is apart from Mannering (who puts in a huge effort every week), most don't put in enough every week. On his day Mautilino is the best prop in the world. But Mautilino might be great 1 week then quite the next, then Lousi might be great the next week, then Henry might be great the week after. If warriors can start getting those forwards all playing consistently good football each week then they'd be near unstoppable

 

[DiegoNT]

I think the most dissapointing thing is after we've helped Isaac Luke with his diet he's gone and betrayed us :lol:

 

[Jason Maher]

After losing Packer, clearly the Warriors need a new merkin.

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

Forwards playing consistent has been a huge problem for the warriors since their last grand final. At the warriors best, their forwards run hard and on the the back of that they start getting offloads and the so called 'jungle ball'. But a lot of the time the warriors forwards want to play that flamboyant football without simply doing the hard runs first. Their is no doubt warriors have one of the best packs on paper, the problem is apart from Mannering (who puts in a huge effort every week), most don't put in enough every week. On his day Mautilino is the best prop in the world. But Mautilino might be great 1 week then quite the next, then Lousi might be great the next week, then Henry might be great the week after. If warriors can start getting those forwards all playing consistently good football each week then they'd be near unstoppable

Gary Belcher, Wayne Pearce, Greg Alexander - which one are you? More cliche than a black gospel church in a Hollywood film.

Warriors have been shit since 2011, however, this year the forwards have been consistently good with the schoolboy mistakes from our backline not only making it impossible to build pressure but then force extra defence which tires the team. No team could have survived the amount of ball we turned over against the Storm and Broncos, and the less said about the Cowboys game the better.

This year the forwards have not been the problem.

 

[Izz]

Forwards playing consistent has been a huge problem for the warriors since their last grand final. At the warriors best, their forwards run hard and on the the back of that they start getting offloads and the so called 'jungle ball'. But a lot of the time the warriors forwards want to play that flamboyant football without simply doing the hard runs first. Their is no doubt warriors have one of the best packs on paper, the problem is apart from Mannering (who puts in a huge effort every week), most don't put in enough every week. On his day Mautilino is the best prop in the world. But Mautilino might be great 1 week then quite the next, then Lousi might be great the next week, then Henry might be great the week after. If warriors can start getting those forwards all playing consistently good football each week then they'd be near unstoppable

lolz Lousi? Henry? One's a nuffy who hasn't been sighted in FG this year, and the other's glass. :lol:

And jungle ball? :lol::lol:

Have you watched any Warriors games this season? Our forward pack is not the problem. Our outside backs (and our injuries to said outside backs) are the problem.

 

[JJ]

Gary Belcher, Wayne Pearce, Greg Alexander - which one are you? More cliche than a black gospel church in a Hollywood film.

Warriors have been shit since 2011, however, this year the forwards have been consistently good with the schoolboy mistakes from our backline not only making it impossible to build pressure but then force extra defence which tires the team. No team could have survived the amount of ball we turned over against the Storm and Broncos, and the less said about the Cowboys game the better.

This year the forwards have not been the problem.

Yeah, he's talking through his arse using stereotypes - the pack has either achieved parity or gotten the better of the opposition in pretty much every game this season - problem is we have Tom Plodder at hooker, a mediocre 6, error prone centres, a novice fullback, Jono Plod on one wing, the golden boot playing like he has lead boots, and Manu being consistently awesome...

But the pack has been very good

 

[DiegoNT]

Gary Belcher, Wayne Pearce, Greg Alexander - which one are you?

or Peter Sterling or Brad fittler or andrew Johns or Darren Lockyer or pretty much every commentator. It's pretty obvious to every commentator and most supporters that the key to warriors becoming a force is to get some consistency from their forwards ( ond of the reasons they signed Ryan Hoffman). Warriors remind me of souths in 2011. We had a pack that had burgess, asotasi, Taylor, crocker etc but souths were still poor. Burgess would play great one week then, Taylor the next and so on and so forth. It wasn't until Maguire came in that he was able to get a the forwards playing consistently good football every week, and those that didn't (taylor for example) he got rid off. Even the lesser lights like tyrell and Clark have been doing their jobs for the team. In the past 3 seasons have had success even with blokes like goodwin, Reddy, Everingham, a very old Tuqiri etc.. but having a consistent pack has helped over come those deficiencies

 

[DiegoNT]

lolz Lousi? Henry? One's a nuffy who hasn't been sighted in FG this year, and the other's glass. :lol:
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And that's my point. Guys like this play 1 good game then go unsighted for weeks. If warriors can get the best out of these guys they'd be unstoppable

 

[Izz]

And that's my point. Guys like this play 1 good game then go unsighted for weeks. If warriors can get the best out of these guys they'd be unstoppable

Yeah nah. Lousi, at his best, is a nuffy. Nuff said. I doubt he'd make the top 25 at any other NRL club.

Henry is consistently decent when he's not injured, but he's injured all the time. Not really a whole lot coaches can do about that.

To repeat the comments of the rest of the Warriors fans: our forward pack has not been a problem this year.

 

[POPEYE]

Yeah nah. Lousi, at his best, is a nuffy. Nuff said. I doubt he'd make the top 25 at any other NRL club.

Henry is consistently decent when he's not injured, but he's injured all the time. Not really a whole lot coaches can do about that.

To repeat the comments of the rest of the Warriors fans: our forward pack has not been a problem this year.

We all know what the problem has been . . . this weekend however everything is going to change

 

[Canard]

Isn't it amazing how all the Gould sycophants constantly complain about the game being boring, yet when a team dares pass the ball on the first three tackles they are playing like dumb black fellas.

 

[some11]

Good call by South's.

McInnes will be top class while Luke is a downhill skier

Coulda sworn BunniesMan would write something like this.

McInnes 80 minute Dally M hooker of the year future immortal indeed.

 

[DiegoNT]

Just an opinion, warriors fans can disagree
The current warriors pack reminds me so much of the souths pack in 2010-2011.
No souths fan thought our pack was a problem at the time either. It wasn't until Maguire came in and got some consistency and getting guys playing to the best of their abilities that we realized what we didn't have.

 

[POPEYE]

The Warriors need to be far less nonchalant when passing the ball, the opposition need to be unsure where the ball is going all six tackles . . . the best playmakers rarely 'hand out' the ball, they deliver it with conviction

 

[Izz]

The current warriors pack reminds me so much of the souths pack in 2010-2011.

Here's a question: who are the Warriors' current pack? Here's a hint: Lousi's nowhere near it. And now Henry isn't either.

If you're going to make broad, cliche-ridden assertions, it's probably a good idea to include players actually consistently, currently playing FG when you do so.

But yeah, everybody's allowed an opinion. Don't disagree there.

 

[DiegoNT]

Mautilino, friend/leilua, Lillyman, Bodene thompson, Hoffman, Mannering.

 

[DiegoNT]

Even when it comes to depth they have guys like rapira and Lisone and a bucket load of talented youngsters who's names I honestly can't remember because they are all so similar ( in the fact that they come of the bench, make a few great runs, then go into they're shell).
Lisone might of been the player I got Lousi mixed with, but in the end it doesn't matter, they are all good players who if they can all play to their best of their abilities regularly, then warriors would be unstoppable