Management

[giboz71]

The Dogs are an example of the coach having complete autonomy not working. The coach quite rightly is mainly focused on the here and now and will not necessarily build for the future. Hasler built his squad that way.and that is why their cap is f#%ked. Bennett had similar power and left us and the Knights in similar strife.

It’s very rare that a coach gets 4 years like Brown did at the Knights. Most wont think long term.

Coaches come and go. Even if Mary gets sacked, Millward has put together a squad over the next few years that most coaches could work with.

 

[Gareth67]

Pickworth must be given credit here.

Not only are there no injuries, the players look exceptionally fit this year. We’re still going strong right till the 80th minute and I haven’t sensed any drop off in games like last year.

Of course, the test will be during Origin and later in the season to see if we’re still going strong.

Interesting to note that all the talk is around less interchanges in the future meaning forwards will need to play more minutes.

Based on what I’ve seen this far, we will be well served when and if this scenario happens.

Most certainly gizbo71 , it would seem that the man has totally revamped the Dragons training procedures from head to toe , as witnessed from the fitness levels of the entire team to date .
But also , as russell border has said the silver lining to it all is that the Big Red V has been injury free all season , truly outstanding , a big well done to all the fitness and performance boys .

 

[giboz71]

On another note, who is the guy (other than Hornby) that’s always next to Mary in the coaches box??

Anyone know what his role is??

 

[Gareth67]

On another note, who is the guy (other than Hornby) that’s always next to Mary in the coaches box??

Anyone know what his role is??

I don't know the gentleman's name , but could it be that English chap from the E.S.L that was supposedly signed up during the off-season in the capacity of an assistant to Mary ?

 

[muzby]

On another note, who is the guy (other than Hornby) that’s always next to Mary in the coaches box??

Anyone know what his role is??

He's the guy relaying all the coaching instructions to Mary.

 

[BennyV]

There were signs we were on the rise last year. We missed the 8 by a game and statistically, we were top 4 in most categories. Lack of polish was a weakness which has largely been addressed with the arrival of Hunt and Graham. Even last year, the additions of Vaughan, Nene and McInnes were all excellent buys.

Listening to Kent and Hooper wax lyrical about how great we’re going shows how different perception and reality is. We as fans assume the club was run by buffoons running the club into the ground when in reality is we’re now a model of how modern NRL clubs should be run.

I’m guessing the truth is somewhere in the middle, but the way we are playing right now, and the crowds we are attracting to our home games, it certainly appears we are a very well run club.

Reign it in giboz, we are far from a model of how a modern club should be run. Our football management is paying off this year. Meanwhile, we are still $6m in debt, have the lowest TPA contribution across the league, coming off a string of failed promises (double memberships before 2017, profitable by end of 2017, RGRV abomination) from our management, and a boardroom of unqualified old boys who are more interested in protecting their position that improving the club, so much so that their plan is to sell half the club to one of those old boys!

Incredible how winning on the field can blind people to the atrocity that our clubs management is!

 

[Dragonslayer]

On another note, who is the guy (other than Hornby) that’s always next to Mary in the coaches box??

Anyone know what his role is??

He's employed to look for McGregor's pen after a loss

 

[giboz71]

Reign it in giboz, we are far from a model of how a modern club should be run. Our football management is paying off this year. Meanwhile, we are still $6m in debt, have the lowest TPA contribution across the league, coming off a string of failed promises (double memberships before 2017, profitable by end of 2017, RGRV abomination) from our management, and a boardroom of unqualified old boys who are more interested in protecting their position that improving the club, so much so that their plan is to sell half the club to one of those old boys!

Incredible how winning on the field can blind people to the atrocity that our clubs management is!

I was relating what Kent and Hooper were saying in NRL 360.

I don’t necessarily believe we’re the model as well and pretty much said it the next paragraph when I said the truth is somewhere in the middle between basket case and model club!

 

[Slippery Morris]

A good example I heard at the start of the season about our club handling certain situations was in regards to the Bronco's handling of the boofhead (Lodge) allowed back in after being on assault charges. Bennett kept him away from the press and made it worse. All the backlash the club club copped and the NRL mind you for letting this guy play was terrible. Bennett's press confrences were even worse saying it was us against them and made it out as if he supported this idiots pathetic past.

Saints were in a similar situation with Packer. Rather than hide him from the press, the club invited all journos to have a crack at Packer and it all went away. There was a little bad press about it but the way Saints handled it with the press was class and helped Packer settle in to the NRL. Saints never made Packer out to be the innocent one at all instead went down the path as he served his time lets give him a crack and left the ball in his court which Packer responded by playing good footy and earning redemption.

Saints suffered big time because of Bennett but are coming out of it (FINALLY) with some smart calls and Mary put his ba##ls on the line by saying he has the team he wants with a brilliant start. Lets hope it continues and the club makes no stupid decisions in the future.

 

[Frank Facer]

So if we sell off 50% of the club, which I believe is the Illawarra half, who gets the money? Where does the money go?

 

[dragonssamy61]

Most certainly gizbo71 , it would seem that the man has totally revamped the Dragons training procedures from head to toe , as witnessed from the fitness levels of the entire team to date .
But also , as russell border has said the silver lining to it all is that the Big Red V has been injury free all season , truly outstanding , a big well done to all the fitness and performance boys .

And the girls Gareth.
Don't forget the girls

 

[dragonssamy61]

On another note, who is the guy (other than Hornby) that’s always next to Mary in the coaches box??

Anyone know what his role is??

One is the stat man.

 

[True_Believer]

Reign it in giboz, we are far from a model of how a modern club should be run. Our football management is paying off this year. Meanwhile, we are still $6m in debt, have the lowest TPA contribution across the league, coming off a string of failed promises (double memberships before 2017, profitable by end of 2017, RGRV abomination) from our management, and a boardroom of unqualified old boys who are more interested in protecting their position that improving the club, so much so that their plan is to sell half the club to one of those old boys!

Incredible how winning on the field can blind people to the atrocity that our clubs management is!

What's interesting BV is that you state in one post you are sceptical of anything the media posts yet will believe the club is in $6 million debt? Where, other than the media, has it been stated we are currently in that much debt? Additionally, from the media, is the TPA figures - yet again, you believe that without question.

As Giboz says, it's somewhere in between and we, as supporters, aren't privy to all of the facts - and rightly so.

I suggest this has been years in the making as had been alluded to by Millward in his much maligned (at least by some on these forums) statement "...supporters looking for a quick fix."

 

[possm]

In English football, it’s called a Director of Football.

It has its pros and cons.

Basically, if they punt the coach, the whole system stays in place, rather than having to start all over again.

I wouldn't class Millward as a General Manager and I'm sure he does not carry that title. I think Gus Gould at the Panthers is closer to the system described by the panel of 360.

I am firmly of the opinion that Millward was put in place because he is an old boy and the son of a Board member and because Mary could not hand the full scope of being an NRL coach.

To use the example of 'if the coach is punted' I do not agree mainly because it would just transfer the problem if the recruitment officer is putnted. Also the coach always has the excuse that he does not have the team he wants because he is not recruiting the team.

 

[possm]

He's the guy relaying all the coaching instructions to Mary.

I believe he's not relaying anything. It's more likely he is telling Mary what to do. I'd say he is the architect of our attacking style.

 

[True_Believer]

I wouldn't class Millward as a General Manager and I'm sure he does not carry that title. I think Gus Gould at the Panthers is closer to the system described by the panel of 360.

I am firmly of the opinion that Millward was put in place because he is an old boy and the son of a Board member and because Mary could not hand the full scope of being an NRL coach.

To use the example of 'if the coach is punted' I do not agree mainly because it would just transfer the problem if the recruitment officer is putnted. Also the coach always has the excuse that he does not have the team he wants because he is not recruiting the team.

So you don't think Millward is doing a good job possm?

 

[possm]

So you don't think Millward is doing a good job possm?

My honest opinion is that any professional recruiter could do the job to a similar or better standard. We are said to have money in the cap and young players needing to be tested. Lomax is our Mitchell and if selected on the right wing from game one, would be the talk of the NRL today.

 

[Old Kogarah Boy 1]

I wouldn't class Millward as a General Manager and I'm sure he does not carry that title. I think Gus Gould at the Panthers is closer to the system described by the panel of 360.

I am firmly of the opinion that Millward was put in place because he is an old boy and the son of a Board member and because Mary could not hand the full scope of being an NRL coach.

To use the example of 'if the coach is punted' I do not agree mainly because it would just transfer the problem if the recruitment officer is putnted. Also the coach always has the excuse that he does not have the team he wants because he is not recruiting the team.

The Director of Football in England is the 'go between' for owners / management and the coach /manager of the team.
The coach / manager works with the DoF to identify what players they want and so forth.

Basically, pretty much what Millward is currently doing.............. leaving the coach / manager, to concentrate on the team.

If for some reason, the owners want to punt the coach, the DoF ( who has put the whole structure in place)........... can continue whilst appointing a new coach.

 

[Gareth67]

And the girls Gareth.
Don't forget the girls

Oh geeze I forgot , ( in my day the lasses were not to be in the same room ) I am sorry dragonsammy61 - and the young ladies also who do their bit to keep the players fit and well . No offence intended .

 

[True_Believer]

My honest opinion is that any professional recruiter could do the job to a similar or better standard. We are said to have money in the cap and young players needing to be tested. Lomax is our Mitchell and if selected on the right wing from game one, would be the talk of the NRL today.

Firstly, not sure what role you think Millward plays but he doesn't select the team that plays each week.

Secondly, money in the cap? Based on your calculations? Are you sure that is the case at the moment?

Thirdly, I had reason to believe that Lomax, up until recently, wasn't ready to make the step up. Just because we see him play a few good games in trials or ISP doesn't mean there isn't other factors at play that we aren't aware of.