Mass Expansion possible with de- mergers

[Pippen94]

Even some ( most ?) of the existing magpies and Balmain fans in 1999 have now moved on to the Wests Tigers … it’s a reasonable assumption to make

Younger fanbase more valuable than old fanbase from 26 years ago

 

[Wb1234]

90 cent of people at Leichhardt games were alive when Balmain was a thing?! Doubt if average age of NRL crowds is stat available somewhere but kids and people in 20's always present at games. Those are west tigers fans.

Look at all the Balmain jerseys In the crowd

Would be as many as wt jerseys

Maybe one magpie jersey

Most of the fanbase comes from Balmain area

 

[Pippen94]

Look at all the Balmain jerseys In the crowd

Would be as many as wt jerseys

Maybe one magpie jersey

Most of the fanbase comes from Balmain area

I don't think Balmain region is big enough to provide most of their base. Tigers have strong presence in Burwood and concord area which was formerly magpies. South west is also tigers territory.

 

[xe_kilroy]

Wouldn't Campbelltown be a better long-term region to focus on? Like relocate entirely there, including all junior development, marketing all home games there?

 

[titoelcolombiano]

No source, but if club which has been dead since 1999 has more fans than one present in the NRL for the last 26 seasons I'd be very surprised. In any case, west tigers fans are younger and therefore will live longer so they are more valuable to the NRL, who can sell them tickets, merch, Vegas experiences for longer!!

Fair call mate

 

[BuffaloRules]

Wouldn't Campbelltown be a better long-term region to focus on? Like relocate entirely there, including all junior development, marketing all home games there?

they have said they want to play the majority ( not all) games there eventually , after the ground is upgraded ..,

I think they should also play 3 games at LO against the interstate teams where a 20k crowd is the expectation ..LO is having some renovations done that will bring the capacity to that level

 

[Wb1234]

I don't think Balmain region is big enough to provide most of their base. Tigers have strong presence in Burwood and concord area which was formerly magpies. South west is also tigers territory.

Lived In Burwood most of my life never was magpies

Other than the leagues club at Ashfield wests had very little historical presence left in the inner west. They gave up pratten park ages ago.

Didn’t seem to make much of a mark in lidcombe either or Campbelltown

I’ve known a handful of magpie fans my whole life

Even a club like manly has as much fans in the inner west

The magpie brand is kinda crap tbh

 

[BuffaloRules]

Lived In Burwood most of my life never was magpies

Other than the leagues club at Ashfield wests had very little historical presence in the inner west. They gave up pratten park ages ago.

Didn’t seem to make much make in lidcombe either or Campbelltown

I’ve known a handful of magpie fans whole life

Even a club like manly has as much fans in the inner west

The Magpies NSW Cup team doesn’t even want to play at Campbelltown… they play at Lidcombe

 

[Wb1234]

The Magpies NSW Cup team doesn’t even want to play at Campbelltown… they play at Lidcombe

Wests weren’t that keen on Campbelltown to begin with

Newtown had the idea first but weren’t allowed

Nswrl kicked wests out then they went to court and won and then moved out there

Crowds were bad too from memory. I wouldn’t count it as magpie area any brand that plays there now could take it

 

[Pippen94]

Lived In Burwood most of my life never was magpies

Other than the leagues club at Ashfield wests had very little historical presence in the inner west. They gave up pratten park ages ago.

Didn’t seem to make much make in lidcombe either or Campbelltown

I’ve known a handful of magpie fans whole life

Even a club like manly has as much fans in the inner west

Demographics changed in the 1970's and 1980's hence magpies moving out west. Tigers definitely have presence now in Burwood and concord (they train on Parramatta Rd and you see players and coaches around the place). Balmain demo's changed a lot from 1960's onwards too.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Wests weren’t that keen on Campbelltown to begin with

Newtown had the idea first but weren’t allowed

Nswrl kicked wests out then they went to court and won and then moved out there

Crowds were bad too from memory. I wouldn’t count it as magpie area any brand that plays there now could take it

no other team is gunna take games there either … the ground in its current set up now is not up to it

 

[Pippen94]

The Magpies NSW Cup team doesn’t even want to play at Campbelltown… they play at Lidcombe

Magpies influence.

 

[Wb1234]

no other team is gunna take games there either … the ground in its current set up now is not up to it

It’s ripe for rugby league though

Massive growing population of young families

Ground would get upgraded if a club actually committed there

Tigers pay the area lip service

 

[Wb1234]

Demographics changed in the 1970's and 1980's hence magpies moving out west. Tigers definitely have presence now in Burwood and concord (they train on Parramatta Rd and you see players and coaches around the place). Balmain demo's changed a lot from 1960's onwards too.

Tigers = winning influence and fans

Magpies = losers and no fans but rich leagues club

They always play better when they wear the black and gold jersey

 

[BuffaloRules]

Magpies influence.

Probably… HBG are too tight to pay to hire the ground ..

It’s ripe for rugby league though

Massive growing population of young families

Ground would get upgraded if a club actually committed there

Tigers pay the area lip service

There is rumours that the ground will be upgraded shortly for the Tigers ….

 

[BuffaloRules]

Tigers = winning influence and fans

Magpies = losers and no fans but rich leagues club

They always play better when they wear the black and gold jersey

Not much point having a rich leagues club if they don’t put millions into the football club like Penrith, Parramatta and Canterbury does

 

[Perth Red]

Wouldn't Campbelltown be a better long-term region to focus on? Like relocate entirely there, including all junior development, marketing all home games there?

Id suggest big corporate sales are going to be ltd in that region compared to the city. Easier to sell boxes and sponsorship in Sydney than in Campbelltown.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Id suggest big corporate sales are going to be ltd in that region compared to the city. Easier to sell boxes and sponsorship in Sydney than in Campbelltown.

There are very limited corporate seats at the ground currently to sell… that’s Richo’s problem…and why they don’t want to play there

 

[Wb1234]

There are very limited corporate seats at the ground currently to sell… that’s Richo’s problem…and why they don’t want to play there

Lo is getting expanded corporate facilities as part of the extension of the old grand stand at the back

Plus new shops for the plebs

Campbelltown looks like it has more corporate facilities than leichardt has

 

[Perth Red]

There are very limited corporate seats at the ground currently to sell… that’s Richo’s problem…and why they don’t want to play there

yeh neither offer much by way of sales opportunities but I wonder even if Cambelltown had the facilities does it have the big business to be selling to? Its why the Tigers use a third modern stadium in Sydney to bring is some corporate revenue.