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Match Discussion: Round 5 vs Gold Coast @ Cbus Super Stadium

Who will win? Round 5: Gold Coast v Newcastle

  • Gold Coast Titans 1-12

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  • Draw after Golden Point

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Newcastle Knights 1-12

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    3
  • Poll closed .
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Bugger me that's a very long bow you are drawing there

We are 1000% better with Jsaf, Best and Pearce out there. There is just no sane way you can say that side has been our best all year. Turn it up
Best and J.Saf are indeed a huge loss. Hoy, Mann and Pearce shouldn't be missed given that they've been weak points in the side at different stages. Green offers things Pearce can't and if he isn't an upgrade on Pearce, he's equal. Ponga is an upgrade on Hoy. Watson is a better player than Mann. I wouldn't say it's a long bow, there are positives and negatives in the 2 different teams named for rounds 4 and 5.

There's no way we should've lost that much with the changes. It was all down to a terrible attitude and not being up for the match imo.
 

Haffa

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It's bad because you need to win the games against the teams you're competing against for those spots - because I can't see us pulling too many upsets against quality opposition. We could still be on 4 points after the next 4 or 5 weeks.
I'd be stunned if we win another game before Magic Round.
 

Woosh

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Indefensible and inexcusable. The Knights' embarrassing performance on the Gold Coast on Saturday once again proves this footy side still can't be trusted to always deliver what should be the most basic requirement of any NRL team. No matter how savage the injury toll - no matter who's in and who's out - at the very least at this level, effort and desire should be non-negotiables. But here we are, five games into a new season and off the back of two straight defeats at home, the Knights' ugly, soft underbelly is exposed once again. Nothing, it seems, was learned from the side's embarrassing trip to the Gold Coast in the final round last season when a home semifinal was meekly handed to South Sydney thanks to a 36-6 drubbing at the hands of the Titans. Kalyn Ponga, easily the Knights best in his return, inadvertently set the tone for what was to come on Saturday when he kicked out on the full from the kick-off. Within the first set, the alarm bells were already ringing in the Knights' coaches box. Defensive attitude is generally measured by the speed of the defensive line and intent in the contact. READ MORE: Toohey's News - Mining day and those 'cursed' jerseys here to stay A fast moving line early is always the first indicator of whether a side has come to play. The Knights were getting off their line from the get-go like they had lead in their boots. The ease of the Titans first two tries showed heads were elsewhere. The home side ended up scoring eight in total with one of them coming directly from a line break from a kick-off. But none of their tries illustrated the Knights head-space better than the second of David Fifita's hat-trick. After being awarded a penalty near the Knights try line, Fifita took a tap and simply stormed over to score with the Knights defence guilty of sitting back on its heels and waiting for him. All week in the build up to the game, coach Adam O'Brien emphasised to his players the fact the Titans would use the footy and attack the Knights on both edges. "We knew what was coming and we knew how to stop it. We just chose not to,"O'Brien told the Newcastle Herald after the game. While they contributed heavily to their own downfall, the Knights were on the receiving end of a really poor video referee call early in the second half after centre Enari Tuala was awarded a try following great lead-up work from Ponga, Mitch Barnett and Brodie Jones. Had Ponga converted from close range, it would have cut the Titans lead to 26-18 and maybe changed the game's complexion. But inexplicably, the video referee took the try off the Knights after ruling Tuala did not ground the ball despite having no conclusive evidence to over-rule the ref's on-field decision. Last week, in what was cold comfort after the event for O'Brien, he was told by the referees' boss that Tariq Sims should have been penalised for being off-side on the two occasions he charged down Knights kicks. On the second charge-down, Sims scored a crucial try. Here was another example of a big call going against his side. Ponga's return was a real positive. He was as dangerous as anyone on the field while Jayden Brailey, Brodie Jones, Josh King and Pasami Saulo could all hold their heads up. In a boost, Jacob Saifiti, Kurt Mann and Bradman Best will be back for the Sharks game at home on Friday although Chris Randall will be out of action for some time. There is still a long way to go but after three straight defeats and with tough games approaching, this Sharks clash on Friday night could well be season-defining.
 
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Best and J.Saf are indeed a huge loss. Hoy, Mann and Pearce shouldn't be missed given that they've been weak points in the side at different stages. Green offers things Pearce can't and if he isn't an upgrade on Pearce, he's equal. Ponga is an upgrade on Hoy. Watson is a better player than Mann. I wouldn't say it's a long bow, there are positives and negatives in the 2 different teams named for rounds 4 and 5.

There's no way we should've lost that much with the changes. It was all down to a terrible attitude and not being up for the match imo.
Dance around it all you want, it was the weakest team we fielded all year

2 players underdone returning from major surgery, a reserve grade hooker playing lock, a player training at lock all offseason filling in at 5/8, one of the least experienced benches ever named
 
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Yosh

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Was super upset at our effort against Fifita but looks like it won't just be us this season. He is a beast and a half!
 

Burwood

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Was super upset at our effort against Fifita but looks like it won't just be us this season. He is a beast and a half!

Was watching most of the 2nd half, and I can’t remember him getting his hands on the ball. Not sure if I’m being overly critical, but the game was there to be won and he was standing out near the sideline waiting for the ball to come to him.

After his first half performance, you’d think they’d be trying to get the ball to him at every opportunity.
 

Yosh

First Grade
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Was watching most of the 2nd half, and I can’t remember him getting his hands on the ball. Not sure if I’m being overly critical, but the game was there to be won and he was standing out near the sideline waiting for the ball to come to him.

After his first half performance, you’d think they’d be trying to get the ball to him at every opportunity.

Could be more of an issue with the halves? Or maybe Fifita has issues with fitness?
 

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