Mental Strength

[Poupou Escobar]

Thats right.

If a government creates too many unworkable rules or taxes too high then wealthy people and big companies go and do business elsewhere in the world.

A couple of good examples - the Swedish government capping the price of housing rental. Nice idea, and the masses keenly voted for it. Then they all f**king complained about a housing shortage when investors stopped building new homes because the (capped) return on investment didn't make it worthwhile. This is the one that started my move away from socialism.

Then there's revolutionary idiot Hugo Chavez capping the price of foodstuffs such that it costs more for farmers to produce the food, or costs more for vendors to import it, than they are able to legally sell it for. The result is nobody producing or importing food and everybody going hungry.

Governments are unable to control economics. The market is a force of nature.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Cause Pou is a dribbler, and when he feels cornered he writes a lot about nothing trying to convince himself and others.

Feels cornered? Casper and Haynzy changed the subject so I went with it. What is there to feel cornered about? It's an enjoyable discussion.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The Elizabeth Warrens and the Gina Rineharts of this world are probably both right.

More likely one of them is right and the other one is popular.

 

[Tony Bongo]

They say it all starts in the front office. Then again, they also said choose your best 13 players and worry about the jersey numbers later, so what would they know?

Our front office is obviously f**ked. The vindictive merkins who keep trying to kick Spagnolo off the board are ruining our club.

Those vindictive merkins would have to be the members who didn't vote for him. I can't see how our members are ruining our club by voting for who they think are the best people for the job.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Those vindictive merkins would have to be the members who didn't vote for him. I can't see how our members are ruining our club by voting for who they think are the best people for the job.

These are the same members who voted him in just a few years ago? They've obviously got no idea of the factors affecting the club, or how long it takes to effect change.

Their opinions are worth very little, and they are too easily swayed.

 

[Tony Bongo]

These are the same members who voted him in just a few years ago? They've obviously got no idea of the factors affecting the club, or how long it takes to effect change.

Their opinions are worth very little, and they are too easily swayed.

I assume you are talking about the same change that Kearney wasn't given enough time to effect because of people like Roy being more concerned with saving their political hides. Who exactly is too easily swayed?

 

[Someone]

who the f**k cares?

you were given a f**king inch poo and again you managed to take a mile.

 

[lingard]

I think they're both right.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Governments are unable to control economics. The market is a force of nature.

And you reckon governments themselves are not a market institution?

And by the way, those commies in the USA have rent control.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I assume you are talking about the same change that Kearney wasn't given enough time to effect because of people like Roy being more concerned with saving their political hides. Who exactly is too easily swayed?

If the period between elections wasn't so short then these guys wouldn't need to choose between their position and personnel stability.

The same thing happens in politics - no sooner is an election over than the parties are gearing up for the next one. It leads to short-term solutions for every problem and so nothing really changes. That's not the parties' fault; it's the fault of the system.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

And you reckon governments themselves are not a market institution?

Only in the same way that the market is a democratic institution.

At the end of the day everything is a market, and everything turns on the decisions of people.

But whereas markets deal with reality - how things are - governments deal with how people want things to be. That means they vote and then expect to be able to leave personal responsibility at the door - "Why should I care about Australian farmers? I voted for a government to do that for me." But if they wanted to make real change they would spend their money differently, wouldn't they?

And by the way, those commies in the USA have rent control.

They do, and it is constantly being revised to alleviate the economic and social problems it causes (including incentivising loans to high-risk borrowers so that they could build their own homes; how well did that turn out?)

 

[Haynzy]

Feels cornered? Casper and Haynzy changed the subject so I went with it. What is there to feel cornered about? It's an enjoyable discussion.

Oi! I didn't change the subject. The hijack was well under way when I got here.